11-1

[NJCat83588]

So the story line after tonights game is this is the first time since 1982-83 that NU is 11-1. Which begs the question, which team is better?

For my money, to this point the 2015-16 edition. Compare the starters position by position:

C Olah v. Andre Goode: Olah. Goode was a freshman and became a very good player but Alex is really playing well.

F Stack v. Falzon: Stack hands down. One of the all time great NU players.
F Aaron v. Lumpkin: Aaron hands down again. Another all time great.

G Rathel v. Demps: Tre, will end up in the top 10 in scoring.
G Macintosh v. Jenkins: Very close. Jenkins was very experienced and effective. But BMac has more scoring ability than Michael did. Push goes to BMac.

Bench: This is the real difference. The '82-83 team had no bench. The current edition has a good bench. This really tips the scales to the 2015-16 team decisively.

The 1982-83 team was a forward oriented team, with Stack and Aaron the two leading scorers. This years edition of the Cats are a G/C team. I do think that the 80's guys played much better defense, but outside of the starters and Paul Schultz they had zero answers off the bench.

 

[Medill90]

To quote Michael Jenkins, Gaddis could have averaged 30 if he wanted. He chose to put his scoring second to winning.

 

[NJCat83588]

To quote Michael Jenkins, Gaddis could have averaged 30 if he wanted. He chose to put his scoring second to winning.

I like Gaddis' game. And he probably had the best name of any Wildcat athlete.

 

[DaCat]

The way I recall it, didn't Gaddis play small forward and Art Aaron a shooting guard? Aaron was taller but I recall him playing in the back court. Also 7 footer Colin Murray was the starting center, no? My memory is a bit hazy.

 

[NJCat83588]

The way I recall it, didn't Gaddis play small forward and Art Aaron a shooting guard? Aaron was taller but I recall him playing in the back court. Also 7 footer Colin Murray was the starting center, no? My memory is a bit hazy.

Murray's last season was '81-82. He averaged 1.9 ppg! Andre Goode played C for the '82-83 team and averaged 9.8. And I was wrong, Goode was a Sophomore not a Freshman on that team.

You are correct about Aaron and Rathel. Art played both SF and SG while Rathel was mainly a SF.

 

[Medill90]

Murray's last season was '81-82. He averaged 1.9 ppg! Andre Goode played C for the '82-83 team and averaged 9.8. And I was wrong, Goode was a Sophomore not a Freshman on that team.

You are correct about Aaron and Rathel. Art played both SF and SG while Rathel was mainly a SF.

Yep. Gaddis was thick. He played power forward in high school and was about 6 5. Art was a half inch taller but weighed about 75 pounds.

Andre Goode was good enough to get drafted by the Pistons....I want to say seventh round.

 

[ubercat]

11-1=10

 

[NJCat83588]

11-1=10

True in both Base10 and Binary!

 

[Mr. Stupor]

The way I recall it, didn't Gaddis play small forward and Art Aaron a shooting guard? Aaron was taller but I recall him playing in the back court. Also 7 footer Colin Murray was the starting center, no? My memory is a bit hazy.

Art Aaron was a classic swing 3 before they started using numbers for position names. And he did play plenty of what used to be called guard.

Loved that team. Who will ever forget St. Patrick's Day 1983 at the Horizon?

Check this out!! I just found this so I feel compelled to share it.

For those who weren't there, or don't remember this game or wonder what the hell some of us are talking about when we talk about Art Aaron or Andre Goode and the best NU team most of us have ever seen ... or for those of you are simply too young to remember any of this (Shakes, that includes you!) ... I'd like to, first, personally thank the basketball Gods or at least the NU fan that put this game on YouTube somehow ... and humbly suggest to all of you that over the holidays, when your family is driving you nuts and you need a break, and particularly if you want a benchmark from which to gauge our current team, you sit down, fire up the computer or better yet AirPlay it to the bigscreen --- and watch this game ! Northwestern's FIRST EVER POST-SEASON BASKETBALL APPEARANCE!!!!! (and you gotta LOVE the announcing ... ):

 

[NJCat83588]

Art Aaron was a classic swing 3 before they started using numbers for position names. And he did play plenty of what used to be called guard.

Loved that team. Who will ever forget St. Patrick's Day 1983 at the Horizon?

And for those who don't remember, I'd like to personally thank the God that put this game on YouTube somehow:

View embedded media

"I like short shorts...."

 

[Mr. Stupor]

OMG! There's so much in here....

"John Paxon, UPI First Team All-American"

Joe Flanagan

Digger Phelps

The 3 point field goal being an unused novelty that players don't even consider taking!

Those warm-ups!!

The red floor on the Horizon floor

The red white and blue ball!.

The 30 second clock - being an issue for ND because they ran 4 corners still!!

Totally biased announcers..."A great turnout for Notre Dame, especially since the students are on break" "Northwestern is just happy to be here". "NOrthwestern hasn't beaten Notre Dame since 1961, so it's been 22 years".....different era, different sport, same shit...

This is great stuff....

 

[Mr. Stupor]

Oh, what could have been if Chris Berg hadn't blown out his knee against Johnny Dawkins ...

 

[Mr. Stupor]

Watching this, it makes me realize how much I liked watching games without all the scoreboard/graphics litter all over the screen.

 

[PURPLECAT88]

Murray's last season was '81-82. He averaged 1.9 ppg!

This didn't sound right because I remember Murray and Goode both being seniors when I was a freshman in 1984-85. Our friend, Google, confirms that with this link to a Tribune recruiting story from 11/15/84 saying that Murray would be graduating after that season. That recruiting class featured Brian Schwabe, Jeff Grose and Rocky Saviano. What a blast from the past!

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1984/11/15/page/83/article/northwestern-lands-a-big-one/

 

[NJCat83588]

Murray's last season was '81-82. He averaged 1.9 ppg!

This didn't sound right because I remember Murray and Goode both being seniors when I was a freshman in 1984-85. Our friend, Google, confirms that with this link to a Tribune recruiting story from 11/15/84 saying that Murray would be graduating after that season. That recruiting class featured Brian Schwabe, Jeff Grose and Rocky Saviano. What a blast from the past!

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1984/11/15/page/83/article/northwestern-lands-a-big-one/

He must have been injured in '82-83, he only played 2 games:

 

[Mr. Stupor]

I love it when Rocky gets mentioned here. I love that guy. Chris Berg's knee. Rocky's shoulder. Both damn shames.

 

[phatcat]

Murray's last season was '81-82. He averaged 1.9 ppg! Andre Goode played C for the '82-83 team and averaged 9.8. And I was wrong, Goode was a Sophomore not a Freshman on that team.

You are correct about Aaron and Rathel. Art played both SF and SG while Rathel was mainly a SF.

Colin Murray matriculated at the same time as me in the fall of 1980. He was a high school classmate of a close friend of mine who attended Chicago Taft.

See archives link, showing that he was leaving at the same time as Goode and Petersen, in 1985. He must have redshirted a year, which I forgot

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1984/11/15/page/83/article/northwestern-lands-a-big-one/

 

[Cat Fan in Buckeye Land]

He must have been injured in '82-83, he only played 2 games:

Former MLB pitcher, Marty Clary subtly going 2-2 on 3 pointers, and 1-11 inside the arc, though!

 

[Medill90]

Falk could recruit and he could also coach. But that was the golden age of Big Ten basketball and the NCAA tournament was smaller.

Stupor, thanks so much for posting the game. I watched some of it and was really struck by the difference in eras. One thing that hasn't changed, the officials really wanted ND to win.

 

[YesterdaysCat]

Falk could recruit and he could also coach. But that was the golden age of Big Ten basketball and the NCAA tournament was smaller.

And just an incredible amount of bad injury luck. If it sounds familiar to NU fans, it's because injuries have always sort of doomed NU, which until recently relied heavily on the starting five. Falk had at least one H.S. A.A. type destroy a knee and never really contribute.