A couple tidbits from The Daily

[scru]

to help us through the desert of the summer news period. Quotes from CCC on schedule and recruiting.

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2017/...stern-wont-play-post-big-ten-tournament-game/

 

[NJCat]

to help us through the desert of the summer news period. Quotes from CCC on schedule and recruiting.

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2017/...stern-wont-play-post-big-ten-tournament-game/

Collapsing the schedule by 1 week really sucks. There are already too many games in November and December. This further increases the risk of injury and puts additional stress on the "student-athletes". All for the almighty dollar from playing the tournament in the World's Most Famous Arena.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Collapsing the schedule by 1 week really sucks. There are already too many games in November and December. This further increases the risk of injury and puts additional stress on the "student-athletes". All for the almighty dollar from playing the tournament in the World's Most Famous Arena.

On the flip side, it gives the B1G teams an extra week to rest before the NCAA and NIT tournaments. For a team like NU with tournament expectations (fun to say, by the way), that rest could be very helpful in making a deep tournament run.

 

[NURoseBowl]

Collapsing the schedule by 1 week really sucks. There are already too many games in November and December. This further increases the risk of injury and puts additional stress on the "student-athletes". All for the almighty dollar from playing the tournament in the World's Most Famous Arena.

Don't disagree, but at the same time I'm kinda looking forward to it as I've never been to MSG.

 

[NJCat]

Don't disagree, but at the same time I'm kinda looking forward to it as I've never been to MSG.

I was at the NU - St. Johns game at MSG when Cobb was injured. Bad karma.

 

[chicagocatfan24]

I obviously get the purpose behind it, but the B1G Tourney being played at MSG enrages me. Keep it in the heart of Big Ten country, the UC or Indy

 

[FeliSilvestris]

I obviously get the purpose behind it, but the B1G Tourney being played at MSG enrages me. Keep it in the heart of Big Ten country, the UC or Indy

I guess that makes two enragings in a row for you, since this past season it was played in the DC area. Fact is, today NYC and the DC ARE B1G country (whether that's a good or bad thing is another story).

 

[chicagocatfan24]

I guess that makes two enragings in a row for you, since this past season it was played in the DC area. Fact is, today NYC and the DC ARE B1G country (whether that's a good or bad thing is another story).

Excellent memory you have.

Yes, it does bother me as a B1G traditionalist. It didn't take me too long to get used to Nebraska joining the conference, but I don't think I'll ever get used to UMD or freaking Rutgers (joke)

 

[hdhntr1]

I guess that makes two enragings in a row for you, since this past season it was played in the DC area. Fact is, today NYC and the DC ARE B1G country (whether that's a good or bad thing is another story).

Yes but this is not just going to MSG but also having to adjust the schedules of 14 teams to fit in with the MSG pre commitments

 

[FeliSilvestris]

Yes but this is not just going to MSG but also having to adjust the schedules of 14 teams to fit in with the MSG pre commitments

Agree that scheduling is a legit issue...presumably the "powers that be" performed a so-called cost-benefit analysis and concluded that in this case, all things considered benefits outweigh "costs" (monetary, and otherwise)...They may have made mistakes, but it does seem it is at least worth trying...if benefits were overestimated and/or cost underestimated it should be considered in future years.

 

[gradeck]

I obviously get the purpose behind it, but the B1G Tourney being played at MSG enrages me. Keep it in the heart of Big Ten country, the UC or Indy

I think it would actually do a lot more good to move it around from year to year. Take the biggest cities in Big Ten territory: New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Cleveland, Detroit, Indianapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis. That'd be a fantastic rotation. All major cities, easy to get to, huge fanbases to draw from.

 

[NURoseBowl]

I think it would actually do a lot more good to move it around from year to year. Take the biggest cities in Big Ten territory: New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Cleveland, Detroit, Indianapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis. That'd be a fantastic rotation. All major cities, easy to get to, huge fanbases to draw from.

I agree and proposed this years ago on this board; my suggestion was to rotate among about eight cities, but weighting it a bit toward Chicago and Indianapolis, i.e., Chicago, another city, Indy, another city, Chicago, another city, Indy, another city, etc. This creates an interesting rotation while still maintaining/emphasizing our anchor sites.

 

[NURoseBowl]

Excellent memory you have.

Yes, it does bother me as a B1G traditionalist. It didn't take me too long to get used to Nebraska joining the conference, but I don't think I'll ever get used to UMD or freaking Rutgers (joke)

You think YOU'RE a traditionalist? I'm still getting used to Penn State!

 

[NUCat320]

If the Big East dates were totally inflexible, they should've scheduled the BTT to end the day before, rather than three or four days before, the Big East. Rather than lose two schedule dates, start the tournament on a Friday or Saturday, and just lose one.

 

[NJCat]

If the Big East dates were totally inflexible, they should've scheduled the BTT to end the day before, rather than three or four days before, the Big East. Rather than lose two schedule dates, start the tournament on a Friday or Saturday, and just lose one.

Big East typically ends Saturday night. So there was no way the Big 10 could schedule around them. No major conference plays their championship game on a Tuesday.

Just a stupid idea to play at MSG. Better off at Brooklyn if they wanted to play in the Big Apple (or Pear).

 

[gocatsgo2003]

If the Big East dates were totally inflexible, they should've scheduled the BTT to end the day before, rather than three or four days before, the Big East. Rather than lose two schedule dates, start the tournament on a Friday or Saturday, and just lose one.

That's not likely to work logistically; the entire stadium has to be rebranded, etc.

 

[NUCat320]

That's not likely to work logistically; the entire stadium has to be rebranded, etc.

The signage should be digital. The court should be swappable.

Frankly, it's just embarrassing that the Big Ten agreed that it was second fiddle to the conference of Creighton and Dayton.

We'll proudly share the JV spotlight with The Valley.

 

[NJCat]

Frankly, it's just embarrassing that the Big Ten agreed that it was second fiddle to the conference of Creighton and Dayton.

We'll proudly share the JV spotlight with The Valley.

Which is why Delaney made a huge mistake. Right up there with Friday night football games. The quest for more and more money is getting in the way of common sense.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

The signage should be digital. The court should be swappable.

Frankly, it's just embarrassing that the Big Ten agreed that it was second fiddle to the conference of Creighton and Dayton.

We'll proudly share the JV spotlight with The Valley.

But how do you pull that off in 16-18 hours? If the B1G title game is aired in prime time, it probably doesn't end until 10:00 PM EST or so and it will take another hour or so to clear out the stadium/court. So you're looking at starting the "flip" around midnight in order to start the next conference tournament the next afternoon. That's going to be a tough turn.

And, like it or not, the Big East has held their tournament at MSG for over 35 years now. Would suspect they have a long-term contract in place, likely signed well before the B1G was interested in playing at MSG. Plus the Big East plays some pretty decent basketball (routinely competitive with the B1G in terms of NCAA invites), in addition to having geographic proximity on their side.

 

[NJCat]

But how do you pull that off in 16-18 hours? If the B1G title game is aired in prime time, it probably doesn't end until 10:00 PM EST or so and it will take another hour or so to clear out the stadium/court. So you're looking at starting the "flip" around midnight in order to start the next conference tournament the next afternoon. That's going to be a tough turn.

And, like it or not, the Big East has held their tournament at MSG for over 35 years now. Would suspect they have a long-term contract in place, likely signed well before the B1G was interested in playing at MSG. Plus the Big East plays some pretty decent basketball (routinely competitive with the B1G in terms of NCAA invites), in addition to having geographic proximity on their side.

The signage has nothing to do with it. Big East has Wednesday thru Saturday. There is no way NU can hold their 5 day tournament the week the Big East hold their 4 day tourney.

 

[NUCat320]

But how do you pull that off in 16-18 hours? If the B1G title game is aired in prime time, it probably doesn't end until 10:00 PM EST or so and it will take another hour or so to clear out the stadium/court. So you're looking at starting the "flip" around midnight in order to start the next conference tournament the next afternoon. That's going to be a tough turn.

And, like it or not, the Big East has held their tournament at MSG for over 35 years now. Would suspect they have a long-term contract in place, likely signed well before the B1G was interested in playing at MSG. Plus the Big East plays some pretty decent basketball (routinely competitive with the B1G in terms of NCAA invites), in addition to having geographic proximity on their side.

The logistics are doable.

Here's hockey to hoops in one night. You're shifting one court to another.



It just seems like a miss to me. Big Ten shouldn't be playing at the kids table. MSG's mystique is nil. I'd rather be in Brooklyn anyway.

 

[hdhntr1]

Agree that scheduling is a legit issue...presumably the "powers that be" performed a so-called cost-benefit analysis and concluded that in this case, all things considered benefits outweigh "costs" (monetary, and otherwise)...They may have made mistakes, but it does seem it is at least worth trying...if benefits were overestimated and/or cost underestimated it should be considered in future years.

I suppose it does make us the show piece of the week before everyone else plays. All eyes on BIG as no place else to look

 

[hdhntr1]

But how do you pull that off in 16-18 hours? If the B1G title game is aired in prime time, it probably doesn't end until 10:00 PM EST or so and it will take another hour or so to clear out the stadium/court. So you're looking at starting the "flip" around midnight in order to start the next conference tournament the next afternoon. That's going to be a tough turn.

And, like it or not, the Big East has held their tournament at MSG for over 35 years now. Would suspect they have a long-term contract in place, likely signed well before the B1G was interested in playing at MSG. Plus the Big East plays some pretty decent basketball (routinely competitive with the B1G in terms of NCAA invites), in addition to having geographic proximity on their side.

I understand the relationship with the Big East (not that it is the same anymore) but moving around our conference schedule to do it is pretty crappy.