How can Fitz keep this guy? How much worse does it need to get before Fitz admits his mistake in hiring the guy and makes a change?
Brandon Joseph is 100% on Jim O'Neil.
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And your sources for this utterance are?
The day Fitz admits a mistake…
I mean, I guess ... if Coach Hank had stayed one more year, Joseph would be leaving too -- it would just be to the NFL. I'm literally sickened about the future of NU football with JON as defensive coordinator. But when Fitz "learned" and finally fired McCall - he didn't REALLY learn and brought in another guy to run the same stuff.
I don't know know how you managed to compare the hire of McCall with JON, other than shitty on-field products, I think they're different cases. What Fitz hasn't learned is to cut his losses early - people make mistakes, so admit it was a mistake to hire JON and friggin correct it. He hasn't yet. The dumb "six consecutive scoreless quarters" crap is so Fitz. I love the guy as NU's coach, but he needs to open his eyes sometimes.
I think he meant to hire Jake then force him 'to run the same stuff', because we are back to amongst the very worst in offense, which was overshadowed by our hilarious drop off on defense. Not sure, but it could be that Jake's/Fitz's crappy offense was hidden in 2020 by Ramsey pulling a rabbit out of his ass on numerous occasions. QB play makes a huge difference, obviously, and Jake is only partially responsible for the 2020 inability for QB's to perform.
I am not on board yet that Jake is a problem. When he had a competent QB he was able to do some things. Not a lot of things , but he was working with a subpar OL and very average Wr’s.
For the style that we run, Jake is just fine, he’s a much better fit that McCall. We don’t get any more of those awful boundary side speed options and get more nifty stuff with tight ends, downfield throws, etc. That we’re continuing to mandate a power heavy and conservative style is something else entirely.
Not really. We were still something like the 90th ranked offense in the country. Better than last year's disaster and that which McCall left behind, but not much in terms of doing "some things."
It was our top 5 ranked defense that won us games last year. We averaged something like 19ppg. That's ridiculously low and really stupid for us to think we can win consistently over the long run with an aim to hold opponents to that output in this day and age, but I guess we were truly spoiled by Hank.
When a team has a good to great OL, it can look good; without it, it will always look bad. Anderson is going into his third year. Let's see what happens. The run game and the passing game both depend on the OL. On defense, O'Neill had a soft interior line and no LBs with which to work. Teams exploited these weaknesses all year. Even the best coaches need some talent. One way or another (recruiting, transfers) we need to attract more talent to the program.
Gary Barnett once told me that teams can always spot and exploit weaknesses. The key to success is more the elimination of any deficiencies or weaknesses than the accumulation of the very best talent. Last year we were weak in several areas (OL, DL, LB, QB) and teams exploited those areas all year long. New talent is needed to shore up those areas.
Well said. It all starts up front. Need to improve our OL play dramatically if we want to get back to the championship game.
The Adam Cushing story - all 10 years of it - is Fitz’ worst and most unforgivable mistake. That putrid decade of OL recruiting spilled over to every other aspect of the team’s recruiting on that side of the ball. We are still living the price of that one mistake today.
Randy Walker beat Fitz like a drum as a head coach recruiting to score points. It wasn’t because Randy was special as a recruiter. He wasn’t. He just didn’t have the poison pill of an OL coach that couldn’t identify projectable OL talent to save his life. And year after year got it all wrong. Painfully wrong.
Extending the pain and futility to the present, Fitz has tied Anderson’s hands with numbers limitations. Anderson inherited a HUGE problem. He should have been given some leeway to sign 2-3 extra preferred recruits. But he wasn’t. So he has to hit it big early with all of his early recruits. Good luck with that. No OLM with options is coming to NU through the portal anytime soon. So the OL struggles are likely to continue in 2022 - then Skoronski leaves for the NFL or Bama - and we’re back to a numbers and talent problem with no margin for error or attrition.
Rant over.
GOUNUII
Randy Walker beat Fitz like a drum as a head coach recruiting to score points. It wasn’t because Randy was special as a recruiter. He wasn’t. He just didn’t have the poison pill of an OL coach that couldn’t identify projectable OL talent to save his life. And year after year got it all wrong. Painfully wrong.
Extending the pain and futility to the present, Fitz has tied Anderson’s hands with numbers limitations. Anderson inherited a HUGE problem. He should have been given some leeway to sign 2-3 extra preferred recruits. But he wasn’t. So he has to hit it big early with all of his early recruits. Good luck with that. No OLM with options is coming to NU through the portal anytime soon. So the OL struggles are likely to continue in 2022 - then Skoronski leaves for the NFL or Bama - and we’re back to a numbers and talent problem with no margin for error or attrition.
Rant over.
GOUNUII
And it appears we are about to enter a similar scenario with JON, starting with the hire. Hopefully we do not have to endure the entire process playing out to the enlightenment of Fitz. There are reasons our offense has been mediocre for many years now, and reasons that has not been corrected, which GOUNUII seems to have revealed. Fitz was graced with the hire of Hank, who fell into his lap, and who made NU football successful during his tenure here. Can Fitz survive without that type of expertise and experience?
His point about Cushing is that he had no eye for talent. Too early to say that about JON, but there is some evidence that he bonded with some of our defensive recruits.
Agree for the most part about Cushing, but I guess Slater is outlier.
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