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Chappy's 2018 Northwestern Football Preview- QBs Part 2

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So what if Thorson’s recovery does not go as planned? Some have suggested a likely return might be before the Big Ten home opener vs. Michigan on September 29th. If #18 cannot take the snaps going into the opener at Purdue, it will come down to the off-season competition between three program veterans.

There is TJ Green (rs-jr from Rockhurst HS, MO), the well documented son of former Indiana great and NFL signal caller, Trent Green. TJ reminds me a lot of former ‘Cat great, Steve Schnur. Both have similar stature (6’1”, 200 lbs), were star players from the state of Missouri, wear the same number, came within one game of a state championship, and have been counted out for the QB position at NU. But perhaps most importantly is that both are hard core competitors.

TJ was the Gatorade and USA Today player of the year in Missouri his senior season, slinging for 2,638 yards and 33 TDs. He chose to walk on at Northwestern over Stanford and Nebraska, and HS coach Tony Severino asserts that “Northwestern is getting a real steal”. He certainly has the pedigree and the tutelage, and now with Thorson’s injury, an opportunity.

Next is Andrew Marty (rsf, Wyoming HS in Cincinnati, OH). Andrew has good size (6’4”, 218) and though labeled as a pocket passer, his film has shown he has the ability to tuck and run and extend a play. A three year starter against some of the better competition in the country (Ohio has been ranked 5th in the nation in overall football talent), he brings good football experience to the table. His mechanics need a little work (some throws off his back foot), but he does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield and makes good decisions with the ball.

Though he suffered a fractured femur during his junior year, he came back to have a monster All-State senior campaign, throwing for 3,203 yards and 43 TDs (also ran for seven) vs. only 5 INTs. He successfully completed 64% of those throws in leading his team to a 12-1 record. His coach, Aaron Hancock, said he’s a “worker and an outstanding student”.

Andrew set out, even before getting to Evanston, to work very close with Clayton. “I’ll get in his hip pocket and be a sponge”, he said. While he redshirted last year, he frequently signaled calls in and seems to have the most buzz around him heading into this season’s “backup” competition.

Perhaps the more heralded recruit of the veteran bunch is Aidan Smith (r-so, Carroll HS, Ft. Wayne, IN). A 6’2”, 205, this competitive signal-caller is accurate with good mobility, prolonging plays with his feet. His experience in the read-option, spread offense makes him a good fit for Mick McCall’s system.

Chemistry with wide receivers is always a big plus for QBs coming in, and two years ago he turned heads with a solid 7-on-7 circuit with fellow Indianan and Northwestern WR Bennett Skowronek. It was a second season of learning for Smith in 2017, absorbing the offensive schematics behind Thorson, the graduated Matt Alviti, and the aforementioned Green. It will be interesting to see what progress Smith has made for himself in the race of 2018.

Then there’s incoming freshman Jason Whittaker from Rockford HS in (my home state of) Michigan. The first recruit of the 2018 class comes in with a lot of early intrigue. His 6’5”, 200 lbs frame with a strong, accurate arm and good mobility has drawn early comparisons to Mr. Thorson. He was a 3 year starter and team captain, though his team never got further than 2nd round of state playoffs. He is capable of playing in a spread offense and felt that McCall’s offense here at NU “fits [him] best”.

The fact that Whittaker was injured this past football season (in which he still completed 60% of his passes for 1,200 yards and 13 TDs), and that Coach Fitzgerald has really only played a true freshman at quarterback once (Kain Colter in 2011, only 3 attempts) in his tenure as coach, it is confidently speculative that he may redshirt.

Still, it is his intangibles- mostly his positive competitive demeanor, contagious leadership, and study of the game- that make it easy to compare to Thorson.

“When the ball is in his hands, you know you have an excellent chance for success”, says HS coach Ralph Munger. “He mixes real well with his teammates and does an excellent job of reaching out to all of [them]. He also does a good job of uplifting the spirits of the team at the right time”.

Even if 2018 is not the year to christen the natural grass at Ryan Field, it would seem that Whittaker could be a player before all is said and done.

Bringing in a graduate transfer doesn’t seem to be in Fitz’s MO. Not to mention, that can be a slippery slope when it comes to team chemistry. The time seems to have come and gone for any sort of realistic GT help, so bank on one of these talented roster-residents to man the offense. And with the recent recruiting success from this staff (Thorson, Justin Jackson, Joe Gaziano, Paddy Fisher, and the likes), astute NU fans should feel good about this group.
 
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Next Man Up
So what if Thorson’s recovery does not go as planned? Some have suggested a medical redshirt if the timetable doesn’t promise a return before the Big Ten home opener vs. Michigan on September 29th. Considering, though, that it would mean a sixth year for Thorson, if that doesn’t fit into any career plans, it would be wiser for him (personally) to take his graduate degree and prep for the NFL. So going into the opener at Purdue, if #18 cannot take the snaps, it will come down to the off-season competition between three program veterans.

There is TJ Green (rs-jr from Rockhurst HS, MO), the well documented son of former Indiana great and NFL signal caller, Trent Green. TJ reminds me a lot of former ‘Cat great, Steve Schnur. Both have similar stature (6’1”, 200 lbs), were star players from the state of Missouri, wear the same number, came within one game of a state championship, and have been counted out for the QB position at NU. But perhaps most importantly is that both are hard core competitors.

TJ was the Gatorade and USA Today player of the year in Missouri his senior season, slinging for 2,638 yards and 33 TDs. He chose to walk on at Northwestern over Stanford and Nebraska, and HS coach Tony Severino asserts that “Northwestern is getting a real steal”. He certainly has the pedigree and the tutelage, and now with Thorson’s injury, an opportunity.

Next is Andrew Marty (rsf, Wyoming HS in Cincinnati, OH). Andrew has good size (6’4”, 218) and though labeled as a pocket passer, his film has shown he has the ability to tuck and run and extend a play. A three year starter against some of the better competition in the country (Ohio has been ranked 5th in the nation in overall football talent), he brings good football experience to the table. His mechanics need a little work (some throws off his back foot), but he does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield and makes good decisions with the ball.

Though he suffered a fractured femur during his junior year, he came back to have a monster All-State senior campaign, throwing for 3,203 yards and 43 TDs (also ran for seven) vs. only 5 INTs. He successfully completed 64% of those throws in leading his team to a 12-1 record. His coach, Aaron Hancock, said he’s a “worker and an outstanding student”.

Andrew set out, even before getting to Evanston, to work very close with Clayton. “I’ll get in his hip pocket and be a sponge”, he said. While he redshirted last year, he frequently signaled calls in and seems to have the most buzz around him heading into this season’s “backup” competition.

Perhaps the more heralded recruit of the veteran bunch is Aidan Smith (rsf, Carroll HS, Ft. Wayne, IN). A 6’2”, 205, this competitive signal-caller is accurate with good mobility, prolonging plays with his feet. His experience in the read-option, spread offense makes him a good fit for Mick McCall’s system.

Chemistry with wide receivers is always a big plus for QBs coming in, and two years ago he turned heads with a solid 7-on-7 circuit with fellow Indianan and Northwestern WR Bennett Skowronek. It was a second season of learning for Smith in 2017, absorbing the offensive schematics behind Thorson, the graduated Matt Alviti, and the aforementioned Green. It will be interesting to see what progress Smith has made for himself in the race of 2018.

Then there’s incoming freshman Jason Whittaker from Rockford HS in (my home state of) Michigan. The first recruit of the 2018 class comes in with a lot of early intrigue. His 6’5”, 200 lbs frame with a strong, accurate arm and good mobility has drawn early comparisons to Mr. Thorson. He was a 3 year starter and team captain, though his team never got further than 2nd round of state playoffs. He played in a spread offense and felt that McCall’s offense here at NU “fits [him] best”.

The fact that Whittaker was injured this past football season (in which he still completed 60% of his passes for 1,200 yards and 13 TDs), and that Coach Fitzgerald has really only played a true freshman at quarterback once (Trevor Siemian in 2011, only 26 attempts) in his tenure as coach, it is confidently speculative that he may redshirt.

Still, it is his intangibles- mostly his positive competitive demeanor, contagious leadership, and study of the game- that make it easy to compare to Thorson.

“When the ball is in his hands, you know you have an excellent chance for success”, says HS coach Ralph Munger. “He mixes real well with his teammates and does an excellent job of reaching out to all of [them]. He also does a good job of uplifting the spirits of the team at the right time”.

Even if 2018 is not the year to christen the natural grass at Ryan Field, it would seem that Whittaker could be a player before all is said and done.

Bringing in a graduate transfer doesn’t seem to be in Fitz’s MO. Not to mention, that can be a slippery slope when it comes to team chemistry. The time seems to have come and gone for any sort of realistic GT help, so bank on one of these talented roster-residents to man the offense. And with the recent recruiting success from this staff (Thorson, Justin Jackson, Joe Gaziano, Paddy Fisher, and the likes), astute NU fans should feel good about this group.

One small nit, Chap. Smith is a Sophomore.

Looks like Sweet Lou has new author.
 
Next Man Up
So what if Thorson’s recovery does not go as planned? Some have suggested a medical redshirt if the timetable doesn’t promise a return before the Big Ten home opener vs. Michigan on September 29th. Considering, though, that it would mean a sixth year for Thorson, if that doesn’t fit into any career plans, it would be wiser for him (personally) to take his graduate degree and prep for the NFL. So going into the opener at Purdue, if #18 cannot take the snaps, it will come down to the off-season competition between three program veterans.

There is TJ Green (rs-jr from Rockhurst HS, MO), the well documented son of former Indiana great and NFL signal caller, Trent Green. TJ reminds me a lot of former ‘Cat great, Steve Schnur. Both have similar stature (6’1”, 200 lbs), were star players from the state of Missouri, wear the same number, came within one game of a state championship, and have been counted out for the QB position at NU. But perhaps most importantly is that both are hard core competitors.

TJ was the Gatorade and USA Today player of the year in Missouri his senior season, slinging for 2,638 yards and 33 TDs. He chose to walk on at Northwestern over Stanford and Nebraska, and HS coach Tony Severino asserts that “Northwestern is getting a real steal”. He certainly has the pedigree and the tutelage, and now with Thorson’s injury, an opportunity.

Next is Andrew Marty (rsf, Wyoming HS in Cincinnati, OH). Andrew has good size (6’4”, 218) and though labeled as a pocket passer, his film has shown he has the ability to tuck and run and extend a play. A three year starter against some of the better competition in the country (Ohio has been ranked 5th in the nation in overall football talent), he brings good football experience to the table. His mechanics need a little work (some throws off his back foot), but he does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield and makes good decisions with the ball.

Though he suffered a fractured femur during his junior year, he came back to have a monster All-State senior campaign, throwing for 3,203 yards and 43 TDs (also ran for seven) vs. only 5 INTs. He successfully completed 64% of those throws in leading his team to a 12-1 record. His coach, Aaron Hancock, said he’s a “worker and an outstanding student”.

Andrew set out, even before getting to Evanston, to work very close with Clayton. “I’ll get in his hip pocket and be a sponge”, he said. While he redshirted last year, he frequently signaled calls in and seems to have the most buzz around him heading into this season’s “backup” competition.

Perhaps the more heralded recruit of the veteran bunch is Aidan Smith (rsf, Carroll HS, Ft. Wayne, IN). A 6’2”, 205, this competitive signal-caller is accurate with good mobility, prolonging plays with his feet. His experience in the read-option, spread offense makes him a good fit for Mick McCall’s system.

Chemistry with wide receivers is always a big plus for QBs coming in, and two years ago he turned heads with a solid 7-on-7 circuit with fellow Indianan and Northwestern WR Bennett Skowronek. It was a second season of learning for Smith in 2017, absorbing the offensive schematics behind Thorson, the graduated Matt Alviti, and the aforementioned Green. It will be interesting to see what progress Smith has made for himself in the race of 2018.

Then there’s incoming freshman Jason Whittaker from Rockford HS in (my home state of) Michigan. The first recruit of the 2018 class comes in with a lot of early intrigue. His 6’5”, 200 lbs frame with a strong, accurate arm and good mobility has drawn early comparisons to Mr. Thorson. He was a 3 year starter and team captain, though his team never got further than 2nd round of state playoffs. He played in a spread offense and felt that McCall’s offense here at NU “fits [him] best”.

The fact that Whittaker was injured this past football season (in which he still completed 60% of his passes for 1,200 yards and 13 TDs), and that Coach Fitzgerald has really only played a true freshman at quarterback once (Trevor Siemian in 2011, only 26 attempts) in his tenure as coach, it is confidently speculative that he may redshirt.

Still, it is his intangibles- mostly his positive competitive demeanor, contagious leadership, and study of the game- that make it easy to compare to Thorson.

“When the ball is in his hands, you know you have an excellent chance for success”, says HS coach Ralph Munger. “He mixes real well with his teammates and does an excellent job of reaching out to all of [them]. He also does a good job of uplifting the spirits of the team at the right time”.

Even if 2018 is not the year to christen the natural grass at Ryan Field, it would seem that Whittaker could be a player before all is said and done.

Bringing in a graduate transfer doesn’t seem to be in Fitz’s MO. Not to mention, that can be a slippery slope when it comes to team chemistry. The time seems to have come and gone for any sort of realistic GT help, so bank on one of these talented roster-residents to man the offense. And with the recent recruiting success from this staff (Thorson, Justin Jackson, Joe Gaziano, Paddy Fisher, and the likes), astute NU fans should feel good about this group.

A couple of edits. Trevor Siemian did not play as a true freshman. It was Kain Colter who played as a true freshman, burning his RS year late in the year to help the team out in the bowl game. Also I am pretty sure Whittaker did not play in a spread offense in HS. In fact, my recollection is that they barely threw the ball because their coach ran a run heavy offense.
 
Next Man Up
So what if Thorson’s recovery does not go as planned? Some have suggested a medical redshirt if the timetable doesn’t promise a return before the Big Ten home opener vs. Michigan on September 29th. Considering, though, that it would mean a sixth year for Thorson, if that doesn’t fit into any career plans, it would be wiser for him (personally) to take his graduate degree and prep for the NFL. So going into the opener at Purdue, if #18 cannot take the snaps, it will come down to the off-season competition between three program veterans.

There is TJ Green (rs-jr from Rockhurst HS, MO), the well documented son of former Indiana great and NFL signal caller, Trent Green. TJ reminds me a lot of former ‘Cat great, Steve Schnur. Both have similar stature (6’1”, 200 lbs), were star players from the state of Missouri, wear the same number, came within one game of a state championship, and have been counted out for the QB position at NU. But perhaps most importantly is that both are hard core competitors.

TJ was the Gatorade and USA Today player of the year in Missouri his senior season, slinging for 2,638 yards and 33 TDs. He chose to walk on at Northwestern over Stanford and Nebraska, and HS coach Tony Severino asserts that “Northwestern is getting a real steal”. He certainly has the pedigree and the tutelage, and now with Thorson’s injury, an opportunity.

Next is Andrew Marty (rsf, Wyoming HS in Cincinnati, OH). Andrew has good size (6’4”, 218) and though labeled as a pocket passer, his film has shown he has the ability to tuck and run and extend a play. A three year starter against some of the better competition in the country (Ohio has been ranked 5th in the nation in overall football talent), he brings good football experience to the table. His mechanics need a little work (some throws off his back foot), but he does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield and makes good decisions with the ball.

Though he suffered a fractured femur during his junior year, he came back to have a monster All-State senior campaign, throwing for 3,203 yards and 43 TDs (also ran for seven) vs. only 5 INTs. He successfully completed 64% of those throws in leading his team to a 12-1 record. His coach, Aaron Hancock, said he’s a “worker and an outstanding student”.

Andrew set out, even before getting to Evanston, to work very close with Clayton. “I’ll get in his hip pocket and be a sponge”, he said. While he redshirted last year, he frequently signaled calls in and seems to have the most buzz around him heading into this season’s “backup” competition.

Perhaps the more heralded recruit of the veteran bunch is Aidan Smith (rsf, Carroll HS, Ft. Wayne, IN). A 6’2”, 205, this competitive signal-caller is accurate with good mobility, prolonging plays with his feet. His experience in the read-option, spread offense makes him a good fit for Mick McCall’s system.

Chemistry with wide receivers is always a big plus for QBs coming in, and two years ago he turned heads with a solid 7-on-7 circuit with fellow Indianan and Northwestern WR Bennett Skowronek. It was a second season of learning for Smith in 2017, absorbing the offensive schematics behind Thorson, the graduated Matt Alviti, and the aforementioned Green. It will be interesting to see what progress Smith has made for himself in the race of 2018.

Then there’s incoming freshman Jason Whittaker from Rockford HS in (my home state of) Michigan. The first recruit of the 2018 class comes in with a lot of early intrigue. His 6’5”, 200 lbs frame with a strong, accurate arm and good mobility has drawn early comparisons to Mr. Thorson. He was a 3 year starter and team captain, though his team never got further than 2nd round of state playoffs. He played in a spread offense and felt that McCall’s offense here at NU “fits [him] best”.

The fact that Whittaker was injured this past football season (in which he still completed 60% of his passes for 1,200 yards and 13 TDs), and that Coach Fitzgerald has really only played a true freshman at quarterback once (Trevor Siemian in 2011, only 26 attempts) in his tenure as coach, it is confidently speculative that he may redshirt.

Still, it is his intangibles- mostly his positive competitive demeanor, contagious leadership, and study of the game- that make it easy to compare to Thorson.

“When the ball is in his hands, you know you have an excellent chance for success”, says HS coach Ralph Munger. “He mixes real well with his teammates and does an excellent job of reaching out to all of [them]. He also does a good job of uplifting the spirits of the team at the right time”.

Even if 2018 is not the year to christen the natural grass at Ryan Field, it would seem that Whittaker could be a player before all is said and done.

Bringing in a graduate transfer doesn’t seem to be in Fitz’s MO. Not to mention, that can be a slippery slope when it comes to team chemistry. The time seems to have come and gone for any sort of realistic GT help, so bank on one of these talented roster-residents to man the offense. And with the recent recruiting success from this staff (Thorson, Justin Jackson, Joe Gaziano, Paddy Fisher, and the likes), astute NU fans should feel good about this group.
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One small nit, Chap. Smith is a Sophomore.

Looks like Sweet Lou has new author.

Thanks Purple Pile Driver.

I see that on the official website roster, but I also know he redshirted his freshman season, so he is technically a redshirt freshman correct? Any clarification anyone?
 
Thanks Purple Pile Driver.

I see that on the official website roster, but I also know he redshirted his freshman season, so he is technically a redshirt freshman correct? Any clarification anyone?
Smith was class of 2016. He redshirted the 2016 season, so was a RSF last year and would therefore be a RS Soph in 2018......
 
A couple of edits. Trevor Siemian did not play as a true freshman. It was Kain Colter who played as a true freshman, burning his RS year late in the year to help the team out in the bowl game. Also I am pretty sure Whittaker did not play in a spread offense in HS. In fact, my recollection is that they barely threw the ball because their coach ran a run heavy offense.


Thanks for the correction- you are right. Kain as a true (only 3 pass attempts) and Trevor as a redshirt frosh. Still, not often that a frosh in any capacity gets PT behind center under Fitz.

As for Whittaker and the spread, they were more of a run-team than pass, but their coach said they were tweaking the offense to fit skills and Inside NU reported the spread offense

"He also plays in a spread system currently..."
https://www.insidenu.com/2017/12/20...taker-signs-northwestern-wildcats-quarterback

Still, I note the correction and appreciate the edit! Go Cats!
 
A couple of edits. Trevor Siemian did not play as a true freshman. It was Kain Colter who played as a true freshman, burning his RS year late in the year to help the team out in the bowl game. Also I am pretty sure Whittaker did not play in a spread offense in HS. In fact, my recollection is that they barely threw the ball because their coach ran a run heavy offense.
One other nit: Unless Clayton redshirted his freshman year for reasons outside his control (and there has been no reporting of such a reason), he will not be eligible for a medical waiver to play a sixth year. And even if that were the case, if the doctors physically clear him to play sometime during the season, he wouldn't have the option to seek the sixth year. In light of those factors, the discussion of a "medical redshirt" option is a bit of a red herring.
 
Thanks for the correction- you are right. Kain as a true (only 3 pass attempts) and Trevor as a redshirt frosh. Still, not often that a frosh in any capacity gets PT behind center under Fitz.

As for Whittaker and the spread, they were more of a run-team than pass, but their coach said they were tweaking the offense to fit skills and Inside NU reported the spread offense

"He also plays in a spread system currently..."
https://www.insidenu.com/2017/12/20...taker-signs-northwestern-wildcats-quarterback

Still, I note the correction and appreciate the edit! Go Cats!
Colter had more action than that as a Frosh. He didn't pass much (though I think 9 attempts not three) but he ran a it quite a bit after Persa went down. Notably, he must have shown the coaches enough to get a lot of PT in those last couple of games over the veteran Watkins.

See link https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/northwestern/2010.html
 
Colter had more action than that as a Frosh. He didn't pass much (though I think 9 attempts not three) but he ran a it quite a bit after Persa went down. Notably, he must have shown the coaches enough to get a lot of PT in those last couple of games over the veteran Watkins.

See link https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/northwestern/2010.html

True. Siemian didn't play at all as a true freshman. That is why Colter used up his eligibility one year before Siemian even though they were part of the same recruiting class.
 
Colter had more action than that as a Frosh. He didn't pass much (though I think 9 attempts not three) but he ran a it quite a bit after Persa went down. Notably, he must have shown the coaches enough to get a lot of PT in those last couple of games over the veteran Watkins.

And that's precisely why Fitz burned Colter's shirt and not Siemian's.

When it comes to young, inexperienced QBs - a running QB is a safer bet than a passing one.
 
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