Chase declares for draft
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WildcatReport - Audige follows Buie and declares for NBA Draft
Chase Audige has entered the NBA Draft while maintaining his college eligibility.
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Too soon to make that statement.
Reality is that his O is probably way too inconsistent to have a real shot in NBA. His D is solid but without a reasonable O, I really don't see him in NBA
Can a guy like Chase stick around focus on his Offense and increase his NBA stock significantly?
Chase almost certainly doesn’t have the size or athleticism for the NBA under almost any circumstances, but his only chance would involve becoming an absolutely crack three point shot
Realistically, the only way Chase returns to NU is if the pro leagues and the free-spending college programs don't think he's worth more $$$ than a handful of NU hoops financers...
I don't think he would ever get the chance. Has to play somewhere else to develop wheter it be Europe or some lower league. But with out better, more consistent O than he has shown, I don't see it. That and our schedule wore him down. Hard to think it would not be worse with 82 game schedule
Solid player! Both Boo and Chase can go pro in Europe asap
Well said. This is a healthy opportunity for NU to get its NIL game together - through a specific and time-constrained test, with two guards who have now proven their value. Realistically, there was no other outcome aside from:
a) Declare for the draft
b) Let that motivate NU to put a competitive offer together
c) See where the chips fall then make a call
I respect Boo and Chase's intelligence and they are both making the smart (if not obvious) choice. I personally like the pressure that this puts on NU to figure it out. We all talk about our well-heeled, influential alums. Time to show we can leverage that within a NIL package, to attract and retain winners. If we get it right, this is a capability that will last beyond Boo and Chase.
If we don't, it's a self-own, and a bad one at that. To date, what I've read about our NIL program feels pretty mushy/pie-in-sky. I'm not claiming to have a good basis for that impression - but If that's the case, we need the specific pressure of this brief.
A lot of you free board posters should consider joining the Rock… lol.
Between Lou and the West Lot Pirates pod you get a pretty decent picture of what’s going on.
It isn't good when the players can (essentially) blackmail the university.
It is an unfortunate new world.
Hopefully temporary.
I envision a day where a new, smaller "Professional NCAA" with strict rules like the NFL are enforced and some parity measures are included. But first we have to have a little chaos in order to learn what governance is needed and who wants to play.
Maybe not!
here's one definition...
Blackmail is the act of attempting to force someone to do something or give up something valuable by threatening negative consequences if they don’t, especially revealing negative information about them.
So we have the traditional demand "Pay me my money" and the threat of negative consequences "or your team is going to be terrible..."
Help me out - if blackmail actually requires the threat of "going public with damaging information" is this a broader category, like, maybe extortion? coercion?
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Perhaps something like that.
College athletics filling a similar role to minor league baseball is pretty messed up, in my opinion.
To me, the current situation is not sustainable. Some "fans" will jump right in and try to "win" and others will stop paying attention entirely.
Definitely not. Your stance on this is ridiculous. Boo & Chase are exploring their hard earned, well deserved, professional basketball opportunities. If they decide to return to Evanston for one more season, then we’ll be incredibly grateful.
If they move on, well, CCC is getting paid millions to recruit more players. Every season.
So a salary negotiation - wherein an employee explains they may not be able to stay if the pay is not competitive - is blackmail? Asking for a friend.
Izzo weighs in (again)
“I’m a bad guy to talk to about the portal because it’s ridiculous," Izzo said, via Illini Inquirer. "I think all the people that thought it might be a good idea to give kids some freedom? I don’t think they feel that today. To transfer whenever you want, leave whenever you want, do whatever you want. I’m glad it wasn’t that way when I was in school because I would’ve made a lot of bad mistakes. Before it’s all said and done, the biggest losers will be all the people who thought they were the biggest winners. And that’s the kids, the players, the students. Not a fan of it. But there’s a lot of things I’m not a fan of that I have to do. I’ll try to do the best I can. It makes things hard. It's like we put a jail around all the kids on our campus to try and keep people from poaching our kids."
“I’m a bad guy to talk to about the portal because it’s ridiculous," Izzo said, via Illini Inquirer. "I think all the people that thought it might be a good idea to give kids some freedom? I don’t think they feel that today. To transfer whenever you want, leave whenever you want, do whatever you want. I’m glad it wasn’t that way when I was in school because I would’ve made a lot of bad mistakes. Before it’s all said and done, the biggest losers will be all the people who thought they were the biggest winners. And that’s the kids, the players, the students. Not a fan of it. But there’s a lot of things I’m not a fan of that I have to do. I’ll try to do the best I can. It makes things hard. It's like we put a jail around all the kids on our campus to try and keep people from poaching our kids."
Is Tom Izzo imprisoning scholarship athletes?
Like everything in college sports, the biggest losers are the small conferences, because stars are constantly on the verge of transferring to better-exposed, better-resources programs.
It seems weird that Izzo, who started Tyson Walker (Northeastern) and Joey Hauser (Marquette) would dislike immediate-availability transfers.
He’s literally got the wealthiest booster in the country right now, a dude who used to play for him and who owns a company that advertises everywhere in Michigan. Izzo probably should leverage that relationship better.
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Hauser did sit out a year, like Chase Audige.Is Tom Izzo imprisoning scholarship athletes?
Like everything in college sports, the biggest losers are the small conferences, because stars are constantly on the verge of transferring to better-exposed, better-resources programs.
It seems weird that Izzo, who started Tyson Walker (Northeastern) and Joey Hauser (Marquette) would dislike immediate-availability transfers.
He’s literally got the wealthiest booster in the country right now, a dude who used to play for him and who owns a company that advertises everywhere in Michigan. Izzo probably should leverage that relationship better.
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I also just read that MSU has 12 scholarships allocated so they can only get 1 new player.
Izzo is just butthurt that players have more power and he has was complete control over them than he and other college coaches have exercised in the past. I love Izzo, but this is pure old man yells at cloud phenomenonIs Tom Izzo imprisoning scholarship athletes?
Like everything in college sports, the biggest losers are the small conferences, because stars are constantly on the verge of transferring to better-exposed, better-resources programs.
It seems weird that Izzo, who started Tyson Walker (Northeastern) and Joey Hauser (Marquette) would dislike immediate-availability transfers.
He’s literally got the wealthiest booster in the country right now, a dude who used to play for him and who owns a company that advertises everywhere in Michigan. Izzo probably should leverage that relationship better.
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Maybe, maybe not. Izzo has been involved in coaching and developing young basketball players for several decades. I'd guess that at least part of what he is saying is that "kids today" can just transfer to a different program with no apparent consequences rather than dealing with coaches criticizing them and having them do the hard work of developing into better players and that hurts them down the line more than it hurts the programs they leave.
Seems like we've discussed on this board about kids who were highly touted out of high school and have been in three programs in three years, never excelling at any of them and in the portal again.
I mean, Izzo is good for sour grapes, but that doesn't mean he isn't also right about some stuff.
Seems like we've discussed on this board about kids who were highly touted out of high school and have been in three programs in three years, never excelling at any of them and in the portal again.
I mean, Izzo is good for sour grapes, but that doesn't mean he isn't also right about some stuff.
When you become an old man who's accomplished an OMG amount, you'll do the same thing.
Once the covid year is gone - portal will change. The system is already built for early departures. Still have same number of players coming in from high school.Is Tom Izzo imprisoning scholarship athletes?
Like everything in college sports, the biggest losers are the small conferences, because stars are constantly on the verge of transferring to better-exposed, better-resources programs.
It seems weird that Izzo, who started Tyson Walker (Northeastern) and Joey Hauser (Marquette) would dislike immediate-availability transfers.
He’s literally got the wealthiest booster in the country right now, a dude who used to play for him and who owns a company that advertises everywhere in Michigan. Izzo probably should leverage that relationship better.
Mat Ishbia College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Mat Ishbia - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more
Few transfer will fill spots on top programs taking from B listers. They will fall to other lower schools and so forth.
At the end, there are X spots and Y existing players plus Z HS players. And they will all go somewhere. But I suspect a majority of portal players will end up at a lower school.
Take NU - they have their list of HS guys. Some are B listers for MI or wherever. That spot dries up. NU can take some kid feeling under appreciated at SIU or a HS recruit they shouldn’t be getting.
Sure, this is black and white in a grey environment but I suspect that more than half portal players will end up at a lower tier school in the next portal and NU will see a bump in HS recruit success.
I think this only but hurts the big programs. Rare we will have a great player. Then it’s an issue. More likely, the stars will mess with the roster and recruiting plans for those programs opening the door for higher level HS players to be forced to lower programs.
Harder to Crean - which hurt NU. Now those programs get Creaned by the players and those coaches have to manage their schollies and PT promises better.
I have in a couple industries and I fight that entitlement feeling all the time.
Like I said, I absolutely love me some Izzo. It’s almost certain I’ll never accomplish anything comparable to him in any field.
However, there is a BIG difference between respecting somebody’s past accomplishments and thinking they’re still good at their specific job and thinking they are right about everything vaguely related to the topic.
Okay, Charles Barkley thinks NIL is going to ruin college basketball.
He's no Izzo, but I find his opinion interesting too.
SO this post got me thinking. When they added the year of covid eligibility, did they increase the maximum roster size? I don't recall that they did. Assuming, half of the guys who are eligible for a 6th year take it that is reducing the number of slots available for new freshmen by about 10% (?) a year? Who does that hurt/ help in the long haul?
I think short term - you see lower level schools get better players than in the past. They will get higher recruits, which are simply lottery tickets. They will get starters like a Beran, that cast off and probably will slide down in program level.
But next year, when lots will graduate or move on to pros, there will be lots of opportunities. Those lower level schools will have an even harder time holding on to players that shine this upcoming season. IMHO
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