CNN next hour. 4pm edt jake tapper covering the story
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Oh good, I'm sure this will be a well-presented, even-keeled presentation of facts and in no way sensationalized to grab onto the coattails of hazing.
EDIT: Just for the record, I believe Diaz. I have no reason to believe he is sensationalizing these incidents, and I believe the other unnamed players, and it genuinely disappoints me those things happened and were perhaps never adequately addressed, accounted for, or apologized for. I also believe the media is picking up on incidents that happened many years ago and deliberately portraying them as burning white-hot today, and they are doing it knowingly and at our expense, knowing full well Fitz won't be issuing any comments and university leaders are inept boobs.
EDIT: Just for the record, I believe Diaz. I have no reason to believe he is sensationalizing these incidents, and I believe the other unnamed players, and it genuinely disappoints me those things happened and were perhaps never adequately addressed, accounted for, or apologized for. I also believe the media is picking up on incidents that happened many years ago and deliberately portraying them as burning white-hot today, and they are doing it knowingly and at our expense, knowing full well Fitz won't be issuing any comments and university leaders are inept boobs.
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I'm sure the networks and media will be interviewing Brian Peters, Jeremy Ebert, Rasheed Ward, Greg Newsome, and the 100+ other former players who have opined on social media.
Diaz is telling the truth.
So are the majority of the players. It’s time for us to listen, learn, and improve. Otherwise we’ll remain a joke.
I'm confused. Diaz doesn't seem to be saying the same thing as the majority of players.
Based on what he shared with the Daily, he is being truthful.
Our program clearly has culture issues and has for some time. We can fix the program or fold it. I’ll be fine either way, but I’d rather we fix it.
Just because Newsome didn't experience what he considered to be racism doesn't mean that Diaz (or others) didn't.
My personal takeaway from what we've seen/heard/read is that there most certainly have been incidents of racism in the past ~20-25 years of the program. The fact that most of the incidents we're hearing about from three specific former players happened quite a while ago, and at least one poster on this board noted that Fitz commented regretfully on his mistakes in the past regarding hair. It speaks favorably of the program that we're not hearing players of the past few years alleging rampant racism, but it's extremely frustrating to see this topic blended with the hazing conversation and Fitz's ouster.
I was responding to the claim that we need to listen to Diaz and the majority of players.
I thought a lot about this and was one of the first people to call attention to what I thought was the hypocrisy of Diaz raising these issues while also praising Fitz and the program on his Twitter feed.
If we take Diaz at his word (which I do) that incidents occurred during his playing career that were traumatizing, and this is the first time anyone has really asked him about it, then it makes perfect sense to me why he's eager to tell his story. It also doesn't negate that he took positive experiences away from his playing days as well. We probably all have experiences where really good and really bad things happen in the same place.
As a fan I'd appreciate it if he offered some qualifying statements (this happened over 15 years ago and I don't know what the program is like today, Fitz was not the instigator, etc.) rather than letting the media advance the narrative that Fitz was an evil hatemonger to his core right up to last week, especially if that's not what Diaz intends to accomplish by participating.
I think he just wants the attention. He’s happy to try to glory hog when Fitz was college football’s darling and he’s now happy to join the pile on.
This.
The dynamics of trauma are pretty f'ed up. When someone like this guy speaks, we should listen. Maybe it's BS. But we should start by listening with an open mind.
Think of all the players that hard core support Bobby Knight. I am positive, multiple with very deep emotional scars that have affected their lives and the way they relate to others, parent, etc.
