Comparing NU and SU recruiting rankings...

[Evanstonian]

Comparative national recruiting rankings per Rivals for the classes that were involved in Saturday's game. Interesting.
N S
2011 88 22
2012 61 5
2013 53 64
2014 68 14
2015 55 18

 

[Evanstonian]

The format didn't turn out the way I entered it. NU is listed first and SU second.

 

[Evanstonian]

According to these rankings Stanford should have had superior players, but it looked to me like NU had the better athletes.

 

[shakes3858]

I think the big issue is that recruiting is only 25% of the battle. Developing players is a huge part of it. We can all point to Justin Jackson or Sherrick McMannis as a great job recruiting or identifying someone that will be ready to contribute out of high school, but the other 83 guys on the roster need to be developed over 1-2 years. That's the physical aspects in the weight room, the technique of playing the game, and the mental aspects of the game. I think Harbaugh was great at that as a head coach which is why Stanford was on such a run for a few years. Now that Harbaugh is gone, Derrick Mason is gone, Vic Fangio is gone...they've lost the guys that are developing great players.

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

We got a mugh better coach! If we played the game in California, with crooked refs,we may have lost! Lots of variables out there

 

[pawildcat]

I think the big issue is that recruiting is only 25% of the battle. Developing players is a huge part of it. We can all point to Justin Jackson or Sherrick McMannis as a great job recruiting or identifying someone that will be ready to contribute out of high school, but the other 83 guys on the roster need to be developed over 1-2 years. That's the physical aspects in the weight room, the technique of playing the game, and the mental aspects of the game. I think Harbaugh was great at that as a head coach which is why Stanford was on such a run for a few years. Now that Harbaugh is gone, Derrick Mason is gone, Vic Fangio is gone...they've lost the guys that are developing great players.

That's true about recruiting, but also who can say who really 53rd and 64th best recruiting class in 2013? These measurements are subjective at best.

 

[NJCat83588]

We got a mugh better coach! If we played the game in California, with crooked refs,we may have lost! Lots of variables out there

We played in Evanston with PAC 12 refs. I suspect that in Palo Alto there'd be Big 10 refs.

 

[willycat]

We played in Evanston with PAC 12 refs. I suspect that in Palo Alto there'd be Big 10 refs.

Oh no, not those crooks. I had asked awhile back what the refs get paid per game and Idaho responded that they got somewhere between $500 and $700 but that was a few years ago. Anyone know? I've got a bet on this., Thanks.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Comparative national recruiting rankings per Rivals for the classes that were involved in Saturday's game. Interesting.
N S
2011 88 22
2012 61 5
2013 53 64
2014 68 14
2015 55 18

Almost like recruiting rankings don't matter as much as the services would have you believe. Shocking.

 

[hdhntr1]

Oh no, not those crooks. I had asked awhile back what the refs get paid per game and Idaho responded that they got somewhere between $500 and $700 but that was a few years ago. Anyone know? I've got a bet on this., Thanks.

I think BIG officials get between $1000-3500 per game depending on experience and demand for that official. BB top 5 or 6 guys get $2500-3500 per game

 

[docrugby1]

I think BIG officials get between $1000-3500 per game depending on experience and demand for that official. BB top 5 or 6 guys get $2500-3500 per game

Higgins and Burr must have retired as millionaires

 

[Katatonic]

While I definitely agree that a decent portion of the 'Cat's 3* recruits are as good as 4*s (well, maybe not the very top 4* w/ a few exceptions), over the past 4-5 yrs, it has been Stanford that has been winning conf. championships, going to BCS bowl games, etc.

Think the results last week had some to do w/ the discrepancy in the rankings not being as large and another being that the 'Cats caught Stanford at a good time (when they lost a good # of starters, even tho many of the replacement players had some experience).

Also, the 'Cats managed to build some decent experience/depth on the defensive side due to injury situation the past couple of yrs which got a decent # of players playing time earlier than expected.

 

[DaCat]

I wonder how many current players on Stanford had offers from NU and were "A" list targets? I would venture to guess quite a handful, as I recognize names like Remond Wright, Barry Sanders Jr, Whitfield, and others. Lots of those kids had impressive offer lists, so star rankings aside, were generally highly regarded recruits. I guess my point is that NU has a huge uphill battle in recruiting the top players and doesn't do a bad job finding good players for our system.

 

[corbi296]

I wonder how many current players on Stanford had offers from NU and were "A" list targets? I would venture to guess quite a handful, as I recognize names like Remond Wright, Barry Sanders Jr, Whitfield, and others. Lots of those kids had impressive offer lists, so star rankings aside, were generally highly regarded recruits. I guess my point is that NU has a huge uphill battle in recruiting the top players and doesn't do a bad job finding good players for our system.

I agree. Their TE, Austin Hooper, was also aggressively recruited by NU. Ultimately the difference in talent between 3 and 4 star players is usually not that significant. What really comes into play is the coaches ability to teach and develop the talent. I think Stanford's former staff was very good at that and the current staff may not be up to those standards. NU's staff has some very good talent developers but there are a few position groups where I question the position coach's ability to teach and develop talent. Hopefully we get better in those areas. If not, I think a change is in order.