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EXCLUSIVE: Northwestern will be 'very aggressive' in early portal window

This will be interesting. Some of you have put forward the idea that Northwestern could buy themselves back into the game. The question now is whether money will be enough to get players here and if admissions will play ball too. As I have said on here before, I think NU should strive for excellence all around and that includes on the field/court. If someone is one of the best in the world at what they do, why wouldn't we want them here just because they don't meet some artificial threshold?
 
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Without major changes to admissions standards will NIL matter?

Article notes change to admissions timing so players can start Winter Quarter but no clue how many this impacts as no mention of standards changes
 
This is a bombshell report. The transfer window change and the increase and money in and of itself is potentially game changing, but even greater the explicit indication that Northwestern as an institution is "all in" on adapting to modern CFB is majo major news with revenue sharing forthcoming. What a hopeful scoop.
 
“Streamlined Admission Process” is music to my ears.

If NU does this right, we’ll be talking pre-SAP and post-SAP eras.

Make it so, general manager Luke Walerius!
 
This is a bombshell report as it marks a transition in NU football and associated strategy. The “forty-year decision” recruiting approach is over. NU falls in line with the rest of the TV contract-funded programs.

As for me, my pro team plays on Sunday.
 
This is a bombshell report as it marks a transition in NU football and associated strategy. The “forty-year decision” recruiting approach is over. NU falls in line with the rest of the TV contract-funded programs.

As for me, my pro team plays on Sunday.
Why would the “40 year decision” approach end? It’s still NU’s most effective recruiting pitch to HS seniors and that is why many of our recent transfers out of NU have done so after getting their NU degree. By the way, nothing I’ve heard so far makes me think this pool of NIL money will be used to attract HS recruits. There will be some exceptions, but my impression is the majority of money will be used to retain NU talent and to attract transfers.
 
Why would the “40 year decision” approach end? It’s still NU’s most effective recruiting pitch to HS seniors and that is why many of our recent transfers out of NU have done so after getting their NU degree. By the way, nothing I’ve heard so far makes me think this pool of NIL money will be used to attract HS recruits. There will be some exceptions, but my impression is the majority of money will be used to retain NU talent and to attract transfers.
A better QB in the portal, and impact WR, and Priebe and Heard still on the team would be a somewhat big deal.
 
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Without major changes to admissions standards will NIL matter?

Article notes change to admissions timing so players can start Winter Quarter but no clue how many this impacts as no mention of standards changes
IT explicitly does not include changes to admissions standards.

This one story doesn't change every single issue we've complained about, but it's a huge huge change in both direct dollars and attitude change. Be happy. Take today's loaf.
 
Why would the “40 year decision” approach end? It’s still NU’s most effective recruiting pitch to HS seniors and that is why many of our recent transfers out of NU have done so after getting their NU degree. By the way, nothing I’ve heard so far makes me think this pool of NIL money will be used to attract HS recruits. There will be some exceptions, but my impression is the majority of money will be used to retain NU talent and to attract transfers.
There is the long-term reason and the short-term reason.

The short-term reason is that this is now pro football. The introduction of formal compensation, variable across competing programs means that pay becomes the decisive factor. Look at the NFL. There is some competition around facilities and player fit and other factors. But compensation predominates.

The long-term factor is NU’s academic advantage and reputation is in the early stages of a trending downward, along with that of other “elite” schools. This marginal advantage will narrow so the “40-year decision” is less meaningful.
 
There is the long-term reason and the short-term reason.

The short-term reason is that this is now pro football. The introduction of formal compensation, variable across competing programs means that pay becomes the decisive factor. Look at the NFL. There is some competition around facilities and player fit and other factors. But compensation predominates.

The long-term factor is NU’s academic advantage and reputation is in the early stages of a trending downward, along with that of other “elite” schools. This marginal advantage will narrow so the “40-year decision” is less meaningful.
Disagree strongly on both fronts. There are still kids out there who will strongly value the education while appreciating the opportunity to make some money while playing in college. That’s our target market. If recruiting becomes solely about money and football, we lose 99 out 100 times.
 
This will be interesting. Some of you have put forward the idea that Northwestern could buy themselves back into the game. The question now is whether money will be enough to get players here and if admissions will play ball too. As I have said on here before, I think NU should strive for excellence all around and that includes on the field/court. If someone is one of the best in the world at what they do, why wouldn't we want them here just because they don't meet some artificial threshold?
There are plenty of players who are offered and would get in but go elsewhere.

Admissions hurts but it’s not changing anytime soon and NIL is a game changer.
 
Disagree strongly on both fronts. There are still kids out there who will strongly value the education while appreciating the opportunity to make some money while playing in college. That’s our target market. If recruiting becomes solely about money and football, we lose 99 out 100 times.
Unfortunately some of these kids, because they’re bright and advanced students, come to NU, redshirt, coaches develop them and when they start to really contribute, they graduate in 3 years and take a grad transfer elsewhere. That will continue to be an issue going forward unless we minimize it by 1) having a winning team that they want to play for, and 2) have enough money to keep them here.
 
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Unfortunately some of these kids, because they’re bright and advanced students, come to NU, redshirt, coaches develop them and when they start to really contribute, they graduate in 3 years and take a grad transfer elsewhere. That will continue to be an issue going forward unless we minimize it by 1) having a winning team that they want to play for, and 2) have enough money to keep them here.
That’s why I said NU’s NIL program will be disproportionately focused on retaining our own talent and on attracting transfers who fill holes when talent development has fallen short.
 
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That’s why I said NU’s NIL program will be disproportionately focused on retaining our own talent and on attracting transfers who fill holes when talent development has fallen short.
Per David Brooks in How the Ivy League Broke America, “students who got into higher-ranking colleges…are not substantially more effective after they graduate.” Additionally. AGI will soon obsolete many of the symbolic capitalist roles that graduates of “elite” schools take.

So NU’s “40-year” point of difference is disappearing and cash will be king. As you say, in that scenario we lose 99 times out of 100.
 
Per David Brooks in How the Ivy League Broke America, “students who got into higher-ranking colleges…are not substantially more effective after they graduate.” Additionally. AGI will soon obsolete many of the symbolic capitalist roles that graduates of “elite” schools take.

So NU’s “40-year” point of difference is disappearing and cash will be king. As you say, in that scenario we lose 99 times out of 100.
LOL.
 
Per David Brooks in How the Ivy League Broke America, “students who got into higher-ranking colleges…are not substantially more effective after they graduate.” Additionally. AGI will soon obsolete many of the symbolic capitalist roles that graduates of “elite” schools take.

So NU’s “40-year” point of difference is disappearing and cash will be king. As you say, in that scenario we lose 99 times out of 100.
Doubt it. The Ivy leagues are about social capital, which delivers access to better opportunities. No one thinks about whether the Harvard guy turned out to be a mediocre hedge fund manager 25 years later.
 
Doubt it. The Ivy leagues are about social capital, which delivers access to better opportunities. No one thinks about whether the Harvard guy turned out to be a mediocre hedge fund manager 25 years later.
The reality is the Harvard guy is going to be finding it difficult to get the initial opportunity that might lead to the hedge fund job 25 years later. It’s already happening. Look at the recent decisions organizations have made to not recruit at certain “elite” colleges.
 
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The reality is the Harvard guy is going to be finding it difficult to get the initial opportunity that might lead to the hedge fund job 25 years later. It’s already happening. Look at the recent decisions organizations have made to not recruit at certain “elite” colleges.
While I think many elite schools have been corrupted by woke activist faculty, the instances you cite are highly visible but limited. I doubt the impact is significant and sustained.
 
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While I think many elite schools have been corrupted by woke activist faculty, the instances you cite are highly visible but limited. I doubt the impact is significant and sustained.
This. A Harvard degree opens doors that are not available to most other degrees. It’s not the knowledge obtained that is so valuable, it’s the Rolodex.
 
Interesting response. Are you, by chance, a recent “elite” college grad? ;-)
NU has excelled with journalism, engineering and theater. Modern journalism is dead. Our engineering school no longer ranks in top five across any field. Can’t speak to theater. On the grad level, we still excel across business, law and med. But those aren’t athletic opportunities.

I can see NU falling in academic rankings and it sucks as an alum. But I also think the combination of overvalued undergrad degrees and overpriced tuitions are challenging the landscape of college in general.

So those that dismissively laugh are not really thinking.
 
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NU has excelled with journalism, engineering and theater. Modern journalism is dead. Our engineering school no longer ranks in top five across any field. Can’t speak to theater. On the grad level, we still excel across business, law and med. But those aren’t athletic opportunities.

I can see NU falling in academic rankings and it sucks as an alum. But I also think the combination of overvalued undergrad degrees and overpriced tuitions are challenging the landscape of college in general.

So those that dismissively laugh are not really thinking.
Med school is ranked higher than ever and I don’t see that changing. Business is not an undergrad enterprise for NU like it is for Mich, IU etc. I loved studying engineering at NU and wouldn’t be where I am without it, but there are several schools in the B1G just as good and better in many areas, for a fraction of the price of you’re in state. Communications school, I was not blown away by their presentations on our visit.
 
Med school is ranked higher than ever and I don’t see that changing. Business is not an undergrad enterprise for NU like it is for Mich, IU etc. I loved studying engineering at NU and wouldn’t be where I am without it, but there are several schools in the B1G just as good and better in many areas, for a fraction of the price of you’re in state. Communications school, I was not blown away by their presentations on our visit.
I loved taking classes at Tech. Great dinosaur building with great modernized classrooms.
 
NU has excelled with journalism, engineering and theater. Modern journalism is dead. Our engineering school no longer ranks in top five across any field. Can’t speak to theater. On the grad level, we still excel across business, law and med. But those aren’t athletic opportunities.

I can see NU falling in academic rankings and it sucks as an alum. But I also think the combination of overvalued undergrad degrees and overpriced tuitions are challenging the landscape of college in general.

So those that dismissively laugh are not really thinking.
What’s Harvard undergrad good for? You’re severely undervaluing how liberal arts factor into these rankings.
 
Per David Brooks in How the Ivy League Broke America, “students who got into higher-ranking colleges…are not substantially more effective after they graduate.” Additionally. AGI will soon obsolete many of the symbolic capitalist roles that graduates of “elite” schools take.

So NU’s “40-year” point of difference is disappearing and cash will be king. As you say, in that scenario we lose 99 times out of 100.
Banks will always need graduates from elite institutions to professionally gamble on which way the wind is blowing, add nothing of value to the economy, collect gigantic salaries and giganticker bonuses, and successfully beg the government for money when it inevitably fails again.

WHEN I GROW UP I WANT TO MAXIMIZE SHAREHOLDER VALUE. Pierpoint will never die.
 
Banks will always need graduates from elite institutions to professionally gamble on which way the wind is blowing, add nothing of value to the economy, collect gigantic salaries and giganticker bonuses, and successfully beg the government for money when it inevitably fails again.

WHEN I GROW UP I WANT TO MAXIMIZE SHAREHOLDER VALUE. Pierpoint will never die.
AGI is going to obsolete a lot of things. It is not going to affect high school graduates as much as college graduates from “elite” universities.
 
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Does it matter at all to you? It matters not at all to me.
It does. I knew PF from HS. I socialized with athletes throughout both my tours. I was an athlete. NU has always been a major point of pride.

I was a Greek and did the hazing there. I have endured hazing I think was ok - not adult like thought out but not life changing.

But I do find the allegations pretty disturbing. Despite NU being a major part of my identity, I want to know more and learn from it. And as I know start to reconstruct some relationships I had within the program, I question more.

I will always be purple. Have no choice - it’s my history. But I’m not going to run away from history because it’s uncomfortable.
 
Disagree strongly on both fronts. There are still kids out there who will strongly value the education while appreciating the opportunity to make some money while playing in college. That’s our target market. If recruiting becomes solely about money and football, we lose 99 out 100 times.
Not if we offer more money, it won’t.

The other stuff is a nice marginal consideration. If we’re going to be in the top half of the conference, maybe we’re offering the same general compensation as Iowa and things like culture fit serve as a tiebreaker. But if we’re offering notably more than half the conference, and most likely far more than most non-P2 schools, then we win. Simple.
 
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Banks will always need graduates from elite institutions to professionally gamble on which way the wind is blowing, add nothing of value to the economy, collect gigantic salaries and giganticker bonuses, and successfully beg the government for money when it inevitably fails again.

WHEN I GROW UP I WANT TO MAXIMIZE SHAREHOLDER VALUE. Pierpoint will never die.
Hope you aren’t a Finance Professor or friends with any.
 
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Not if we offer more money, it won’t.

The other stuff is a nice marginal consideration. If we’re going to be in the top half of the conference, maybe we’re offering the same general compensation as Iowa and things like culture fit serve as a tiebreaker. But if we’re offering notably more than half the conference, and most likely far more than most non-P2 schools, then we win. Simple.
We don’t have to be in the top tier of money offerers because frankly we are not in the High Stakes room. I think we’ll do quite well in our weight class which should be all but about 20 programs.

Academics will have some impact on decisions but not near what a lot of people on here like to think. Aren’t all college decisions 40 year decisions? Some harp on this like you aren’t going to have sucess at a lower ranked school. Fitz, the King of this quote is sending his son to Iowa as a PWO. Not an Ivy, or some elite school. How do people square this up?

My recruitment back 40 years ago for a non-revenue with no real professional market might be similar to some today. I never once looked at or thought much about academic reputation of the schools. Accredited college, pretty much all similar, they are what you make them to be. Ignorant, yes it was, but I don’t regret it even today. My parents didn’t know better either. I bet a lot of families of athletes are dealing with either first or second generation of college students. Parents are elated that they are getting offers from a free education from schools they see on SportsCenter every week. 25000 people go there, how can it be so bad?

You will need to pay the top HS kids. End of story. If you don’t you will play the transfer game every year. Trust your scouting. Didn’t we used to say our vetting was superior. No excuses any more. You either want to be good or you say you do but don’t do what is necessary to be good.
 
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