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Falzon done for the year

They said knee. We heard tendinitis a few weeks ago. It what exactly happened and when?
If we make the tourney or evenborderline it will be a helluva coaching job by the staff
 
So what- we have 9 players on scholarship that all can play pretty well for the rest of the season if they all stay healthy from here on out? I remember Carmody played some years with only 7 + Michael Jenkins. And he finished some years at .500 in the Big ten. Didn't he win coach of the year for it one year? Well- I think Collins is a better coach than Carmody. I think our players are better than those years. Why can't we at least go .500 or better this year in the Big Ten games? I'm hoping that they can get it done. If they do, we might win a BIG championship next year? If so, Collins should win some coach of the year awards.
 
Why can't we at least go .500 or better this year in the Big Ten games? I'm hoping that they can get it done. If they do, we might win a BIG championship next year? If so, Collins should win some coach of the year awards.

We're not going to win the B1G next year, unless we go on an amazing run in the conference tournament. Doesn't mean we won't make the NCAAs, of course, but a regular season B1G title is a huge step above that, and our talent won't improve nearly enough to take it.
 
They said knee. We heard tendinitis a few weeks ago. It what exactly happened and when?
If we make the tourney or evenborderline it will be a helluva coaching job by the staff

I'd be interested in getting our resident orthopod docrugby's take. This doesn't seem to be a ligament problem or they would have acted sooner. An ACL repair can be very successful and return to normal activities is the norm. This seems like an articular cartilage issue. If it is a torn meniscus it could get repaired and cleaned up. But if it is general wear and tear and osteoarthritis, much more difficult to make a prognosis. Cartilage doesn't regenerate itself, once a portion is damaged it really cannot be repaired. All we can do is hope for the best for Aaron.
 
We're not going to win the B1G next year, unless we go on an amazing run in the conference tournament. Doesn't mean we won't make the NCAAs, of course, but a regular season B1G title is a huge step above that, and our talent won't improve nearly enough to take it.

Pretty sure that a year ago pretty much everyone on this board could not have predicted how Law and Lindsey would play this year. So it's incredibly tough to make sweeping statements about a team of 18 -22 year olds in a program that develops players (versus one and done).

With that said, predicting a team that's never won the big ten won't win next year, or the year after that, or the year after that.....isn't exactly a looney toons bet.
 
We're not going to win the B1G next year, unless we go on an amazing run in the conference tournament. Doesn't mean we won't make the NCAAs, of course, but a regular season B1G title is a huge step above that, and our talent won't improve nearly enough to take it.
How many people thought that NU would win the Big Ten championship in football in 1995/6/2000? It required a breakthrough year. Did you see the story on that 1995 team on BigTen channel about elite teams. Well, I certainly got the impression that those studs on that team believed it was possible. I think that change in the culture of finding it at least feasible is critical- and WTF- maybe OK- we fall a little short. But at that point, maybe-just maybe, but in a very real sense we make it to the NCAA tourney and have some serious fun with it.
 
I'd be interested in getting our resident orthopod docrugby's take. This doesn't seem to be a ligament problem or they would have acted sooner. An ACL repair can be very successful and return to normal activities is the norm. This seems like an articular cartilage issue. If it is a torn meniscus it could get repaired and cleaned up. But if it is general wear and tear and osteoarthritis, much more difficult to make a prognosis. Cartilage doesn't regenerate itself, once a portion is damaged it really cannot be repaired. All we can do is hope for the best for Aaron.
Would be very curious to know what procedure was done. Obviously not an ACL, right? I guess it could be a partial tear and they didn't see it healing up. Could just as easily been a torn meniscus, but I think they would have done the procedure right away. I hope it wasn't microfracture. 20 year olds should not be having that done.
 
Given how few freshmen and sophomores we have, letting Falzon recover this year makes even more sense. He's better off getting a healthy year as a star instead of a year where he would have struggled to get healthy and then get into the rotation.
 
Well, I certainly got the impression that those studs on that team believed it was possible. I think that change in the culture of finding it at least feasible is critical

Look, I believe two things:

1) The 2017-2018 team will be the most talented team NU has fielded in the modern era of basketball and will, barring injury, make the tournament for the first time in program history.

2) The 2017-2018 team will not be talented enough to win a Big Ten regular season title. As good as Collins' recruiting has been relative to our history, it's still middle of the pack in the conference at best.

I expect the team to disagree with me on point 2. They absolutely should believe that they can win the conference crown, and try their hardest to do so. If they prove me wrong, it would be fantastic.

Regardless, let's see how well the 2016-17 edition ends up doing before we worry about 2017-18. They could end up surprising us.
 
Honestly, I think the current edition might already be the best Northwestern team I've seen in a decade-plus of watching NU. We're not going to win the Big Ten, but I think we're good enough to get 9-10 wins and be in contention come the BTT.
 
Guys,
Let's get to the tourney first before we forecast a Big 10 championship. After nine games with injuries to Rapolas and Falzon and to be 7-2. I am happy with this team. I like the way the team picks each other up if someone is off or injured. The development of Lindsey, Law, Skelly, Lumpkin and Taohorn has been impressive. And for next year, Bryant, OG and Blackman could be gone from iU, UW will lose Nigel and Koenig, Purdue will lose its most talent player Swanigan, MSU will lose Bridges and Harris, UM will lose Irvin and Walton, OSU will lose Loving and I believe Bates-Diop so who knows how high the ceiling will be but to say NU and possible conference championship is quite a mouthful. But why not if the Cubs can win WS?
 
They said knee. We heard tendinitis a few weeks ago. It what exactly happened and when?
If we make the tourney or evenborderline it will be a helluva coaching job by the staff

Back in my running days, I had a partial meniscus tear that I endured until I developed tendonitis. i didn't even think the two were related but since having the repair, I never have had tendonitis. The tendonitis hurt more than the meniscus and was more debilitating but was a symptom of the problem in the end. Might be a similarity.
 
Look, I believe two things:

1) The 2017-2018 team will be the most talented team NU has fielded in the modern era of basketball and will, barring injury, make the tournament for the first time in program history.

2) The 2017-2018 team will not be talented enough to win a Big Ten regular season title. As good as Collins' recruiting has been relative to our history, it's still middle of the pack in the conference at best.
Per 247, NU's 3 most recent recruiting classes averaged about 10th in the B1G (I suppose rankings per other sites are similar). To finish #1 when about 9 teams are ranked higher in recruiting would be a heck of an accomplishment. Possible? Of course yes. But extremely unlikely.

So far CC's B1G winning percentage is only 0.37. Having his first B1G non-losing season would be a reasonable goal, en route to an eventual B1G crown.

As for the post-season, last I checked CC hasn't even made THE NIT yet. Maybe he can start by reaching that milestone en route to the NCAA-T (of course skipping the NIT would be even better).
 
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Back in my running days, I had a partial meniscus tear that I endured until I developed tendonitis. i didn't even think the two were related but since having the repair, I never have had tendonitis. The tendonitis hurt more than the meniscus and was more debilitating but was a symptom of the problem in the end. Might be a similarity.

I had a meniscus tear back in my crew days. The rehab was relatively short--about month. It would be great news if Falzon's injury is this minor. He could be back practicing full speed by February...but I could still understand redshirting the season even if this were the case.
 
Pretty sure that a year ago pretty much everyone on this board could not have predicted how Law and Lindsey would play this year. So it's incredibly tough to make sweeping statements about a team of 18 -22 year olds in a program that develops players (versus one and done).

With that said, predicting a team that's never won the big ten won't win next year, or the year after that, or the year after that.....isn't exactly a looney toons bet.

I believe I stated before the season started that Lindsey would be the key to the season. Many had Law playing his position with Lindsey struggling to get time. All you had to do was watch him the first 2 years to know he was probably the most talented player on the team. I still believe that he is the most skilled player, playing more consistently and confidently now
 
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I'd be interested in getting our resident orthopod docrugby's take. This doesn't seem to be a ligament problem or they would have acted sooner. An ACL repair can be very successful and return to normal activities is the norm. This seems like an articular cartilage issue. If it is a torn meniscus it could get repaired and cleaned up. But if it is general wear and tear and osteoarthritis, much more difficult to make a prognosis. Cartilage doesn't regenerate itself, once a portion is damaged it really cannot be repaired. All we can do is hope for the best for Aaron.
We are able to do some marvelous things with stem cells for both cartilage and meniscus problems. But, they are not covered by insurance and are pretty costly. I doubt the school could pay for the procedure - but maybe.
 
I believe I stated before the season started that Lindsey would be the key to the season. Many had Law playing his position with Lindsey struggling to get time. All you had to do was watch him the first 2 years to know he was probably the most talented player on the team. I still believe that he is the most skilled player, playing more consistently and confidently now

There was a poster on this board who for two years wrote that he watched Lindsey play multiple games in high school, he was unimpressive and would likely not amount to much. I wish he'd at least come back and comment on what we're seeing.
 
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We are able to do some marvelous things with stem cells for both cartilage and meniscus problems. But, they are not covered by insurance and are pretty costly. I doubt the school could pay for the procedure - but maybe.
NU can't afford to pay for a players medical care, come on. There is something called health insurance and they do run a their own hospitals. If they can't take care of this, then Colter will need to do more organizing.
 
NU can't afford to pay for a players medical care, come on. There is something called health insurance and they do run a their own hospitals. If they can't take care of this, then Colter will need to do more organizing.
My understanding is that the procedure cannot be done at any hospital that receives government funds. Nor will any insurance cover it. I know of a doctor in the Mayo Clinic who is trained in the procedure, wants to do it, but cannot. Yet, it is widely performed in Europe and shows over a 90% success rate - far better than surgery, including hip and knee replacements - but it is not approved in the US. Part of the reason is political. The government is in bed with the insurance companies which do not want to pay for the expensive procedures. Accordingly, it is available only to the wealthy in private clinics. One of the best in the country is in the Chicago suburbs.
 
There was a poster on this board who for two years wrote that he watched Lindsey play multiple games in high school, he was unimpressive and would likely not amount to much. I wish he'd at least come back and comment on what we're seeing.

+1
And he was bewildered that Collins offered him a scholarship. I think Fran is probably wishing he'd stuck with Scottie after he broke his leg. Same poster also said Jalen Brunson would be a bust after high school.
 
We are able to do some marvelous things with stem cells for both cartilage and meniscus problems. But, they are not covered by insurance and are pretty costly. I doubt the school could pay for the procedure - but maybe.
Hopefully it's just a matter of time before PRP and stem cell treatments for damage to articular cartilage is covered. I am banking on it, as I stand to benefit.
 
They said knee. We heard tendinitis a few weeks ago. It what exactly happened and when?
If we make the tourney or evenborderline it will be a helluva coaching job by the staff
Supposedly something about the patella tendon
 
So what- we have 9 players on scholarship that all can play pretty well for the rest of the season if they all stay healthy from here on out? I remember Carmody played some years with only 7 + Michael Jenkins. And he finished some years at .500 in the Big ten. Didn't he win coach of the year for it one year? Well- I think Collins is a better coach than Carmody. I think our players are better than those years. Why can't we at least go .500 or better this year in the Big Ten games? I'm hoping that they can get it done. If they do, we might win a BIG championship next year? If so, Collins should win some coach of the year awards.
He finished at 0.500 in the BIG once. But that year, we had a losing overall record
 
Honestly, I think the current edition might already be the best Northwestern team I've seen in a decade-plus of watching NU. We're not going to win the Big Ten, but I think we're good enough to get 9-10 wins and be in contention come the BTT.
Such a low bar.
 
Per 247, NU's 3 most recent recruiting classes averaged about 10th in the B1G (I suppose rankings per other sites are similar). To finish #1 when about 9 teams are ranked higher in recruiting would be a heck of an accomplishment. Possible? Of course yes. But extremely unlikely.

So far CC's B1G winning percentage is only 0.37. Having his first B1G non-losing season would be a reasonable goal, in route to an eventual B1G crown.

As for the post-season, last I checked CC hasn't even made THE NIT yet. Maybe he can start by reaching that milestone in route to the NCAA-T (of course skipping the NIT would be even better).
That is still sort of middle of the pack in a 14 team league and better than having the 12-13 ranked recruiting classes in an 11 or12 team league. And one advantage we have over the teams at the top of the list is that our guys stay for 4-5 years where many of the top player that have those teams classes ranked so high, leave early. Plus many reaching maturity at the same time.
 
My understanding is that the procedure cannot be done at any hospital that receives government funds. Nor will any insurance cover it. I know of a doctor in the Mayo Clinic who is trained in the procedure, wants to do it, but cannot. Yet, it is widely performed in Europe and shows over a 90% success rate - far better than surgery, including hip and knee replacements - but it is not approved in the US. Part of the reason is political. The government is in bed with the insurance companies which do not want to pay for the expensive procedures. Accordingly, it is available only to the wealthy in private clinics. One of the best in the country is in the Chicago suburbs.

Any concept of cost? And, which clinic in Chicago?
 
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