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High-stepping

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In basketball, if two players are on a fast-break, and one bounces it high off the floor for the other to catch with an alley-oop dunk, should that be a foul? Wouldn't an ordinary layup do?

Why are style points penalized in football? When did high-stepping become a penalty? I remember Deion Sanders high-stepping without a penalty and life went on. If a player does this, he's not going as fast as he can and maybe a defender will catch up. I remember Leon Lett holding out the football at the Super Bowl running into the end zone and it being swatted out of his hands.

I'm amazed we live in a society where high-stepping became a penalty.
 
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Why not basketball?

I consider it showmanship and life is a bit more boring without it.
I guess I don’t consider your example of the alley oop to be taunting or excessive celebration as high stepping into the end zone. If a ball carrier approaches the goal line and pitches it back to a guy who was running with him, that would be similar. Would never happen though!
 
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I guess I don’t consider your example of the alley oop to be taunting or excessive celebration as high stepping into the end zone. If a ball carrier approaches the goal line and pitches it back to a guy who was running with him, that would be similar. Would never happen though!
It never entered my mind, before the penalty was called yesterday, that high-stepping into the end zone constituted taunting or excessive celebration. It's a flashy way to score. The alley-oop is a flashy way to score. For both, there's a higher risk of failing to score (slowing down due to high-stepping, the higher difficulty of a bounce-pass alley-oop vs. a normal layup). I don't see the difference.

Who got their fee fees hurt over high-stepping?
 
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The penalty was called correctly. I wish the rule were not in place.
 
High stepping is ok, but come on... he started high stepping at the 30 yard line. That was a bit over the top! 😜
 
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High stepping is ok, but come on... he started high stepping at the 30 yard line. That was a bit over the top! 😜
It was pretty funny, because they really should have been at least a first down away from field goal range if the penalty were correctly assessed.
 
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I was watching with a Purdue fan who is my cousin. He thought the high stepping was out of line even before the penalty was called. As for me, I guess I've become immune to classless jerks. They're everywhere. But I guess now we even have folks defending them.
 
I was watching with a Purdue fan who is my cousin. He thought the high stepping was out of line even before the penalty was called. As for me, I guess I've become immune to classless jerks. They're everywhere. But I guess now we even have folks defending them.
Is Deion Sanders a classless jerk?
 
Showmanship is inherently part of several cultures, including Black American culture (think Gospel preachers and soul train circles and Ken Griffey’s classless backward hat and high-stepping and improv jazz solos and slam poetry) and Latin American sporting culture (bat flips and gold chains and the helmets that magically fly off every time you round first and hip-swinging salsa dancing and improv jazz solos).

Black America was busy inventing jazz and rock and roll and the blues while white America was busy with Perry Como and Lawrence Welk.

Basically, while many cultures (including global soccer culture) celebrate showmanship and silliness and entertainment, white American culture generally doesn’t. I suspect that’s because we’re all Catholic and Protestant and Jewish and therefore guilt-stricken. Or we just lack rhythm.

Personally, I loosened up when Randy Moss did his fake-moon celebration and Joe Buck reacted like he had assassinated the president.
 
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Interesting takes,

Of course the penalty wasn’t for high stepping per se, but rather for celebratory taunting,
 
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In basketball, if two players are on a fast-break, and one bounces it high off the floor for the other to catch with an alley-oop dunk, should that be a foul? Wouldn't an ordinary layup do?

Why are style points penalized in football? When did high-stepping become a penalty? I remember Deion Sanders high-stepping without a penalty and life went on. If a player does this, he's not going as fast as he can and maybe a defender will catch up. I remember Leon Lett holding out the football at the Super Bowl running into the end zone and it being swatted out of his hands.

I'm amazed we live in a society where high-stepping became a penalty.
It’s very important that young men never express excitement over an important and dramatic play in front of tens of thousands of screaming, supportive fans while they play a semi-professional ball sport for fun and entertainment. Such things are disgraceful and deleterious to the sanctity of the game. Just the word itself, game, should tell you how serious this is.
 
The only kind of celebration I would support is beating Ohio State at the 'Shoe and then all the players running to midfield and dancing and hopping up and down on the giant "O" logo painted on the field with their cleats. That would make ESPN for sure.
 
Interesting takes,

Of course the penalty wasn’t for high stepping per se, but rather for celebratory taunting,
As my FIL says, It was and it wasn’t.

It was a taunting penalty, but high-stepping was formally identified as a form of taunting in the official memo emphasizing taunting enforcement.

(I really like the idea of a mailed memo to every official’s home.)



 
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