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How does any recruiting happen with an interim coach?

This has probably already been discussed here, but I couldn’t find a thread. Sorry.

How did Gary Barnett recruit coming off the records of Francis Peay?

Lousy old outdated stadium. Super hard articial turf. Weight room insanely outdated. Academics. Empty stands. And doggone it he took the Purple to Pasedena!

You need someone who can sell ice cream to Eskimo's (but I work in sales and I have seen it done - many times).
 
How did Gary Barnett recruit coming off the records of Francis Peay?

Lousy old outdated stadium. Super hard articial turf. Weight room insanely outdated. Academics. Empty stands. And doggone it he took the Purple to Pasedena!

You need someone who can sell ice cream to Eskimo's (but I work in sales and I have seen it done - many times).
Barnett wasn’t an interim coach, and the scope of college football has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since the early 90s.

I think @Medill '03 might have it right. You get the bottom of the barrel. Players don’t commit to schools anymore. They commit to a coach and NIL. With an interim, we have nobody driving either bus. The AD is blowing this badly. Looks like this entire class will be a wash unless the new hire pulls some better guys in spring/summer.
 
This has probably already been discussed here, but I couldn’t find a thread. Sorry.
Going back a ways (to our last "interim HC"), Francis Peay blamed the 0-11 1989 season on the recruiting "shadow" cast by his interim status during the 1986 season.
 
Going back a ways (to our last "interim HC"), Francis Peay blamed the 0-11 1989 season on the recruiting "shadow" cast by his interim status during the 1986 season.

No doubt, we’re at an incredible disadvantage with an interim head coach. It would be in the best interest of the program to name the next head coach as soon as possible. I don’t think we can afford to wait until the end of the season to name the next HC. I’m sure Schill, Gragg and company understand this and will take all the necessary steps to get it done. 🙄
 
Barnett wasn’t an interim coach, and the scope of college football has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since the early 90s.

I think @Medill '03 might have it right. You get the bottom of the barrel. Players don’t commit to schools anymore. They commit to a coach and NIL. With an interim, we have nobody driving either bus. The AD is blowing this badly. Looks like this entire class will be a wash unless the new hire pulls some better guys in spring/summer.
Sign some reaches and hope the new guy can work the transfer portal and navigate admissions. While trying to keep the existing players. Good luck. No one good will be available until December when recruiting is nearly done.
 
The lone bright spot is that you can transform a program more quickly (see: Prime/Colorado, though we will see how well that works out) through over-reliance on the transfer portal.
 
You “commit to the school”…not the coach/staff. Certainly not ideal.
So quickly some quit on the famed “40 year plan” which Northwestern supposedly offers to all alumni.

There are still plenty of recruits who would love to play in purple. Especially if we throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield once in a while.

Didn’t you say that we’d be so devastated by transfers that we’d have to forfeit the entire season? Can someone let Schiano know that we won’t be able to field a team in 3 weeks?
 
???? I found my way here after the incredible basketball run last spring.

Newcomers aren’t particularly welcome around here? Full disclosure, Jim Starr isn’t the name on my birth certificate.

Welcome to our humble (especially these days) little purple internet living room, JimStarr. Stick around - CatManTrue knows ALLLLLLLL things (even more so than AdamOnFirst) and more importantly, is the sole source of Truth you will ever need. The rest of us peddle a lesser version, but we occasionally have fun doing it. So stick around and join us.

You didn't miss any specific thread that I can remember, but the topic has been in and out of various threads. Its obviously a legit question, with clear answers that have been given above. I agree with EuroCat. Unless we get another uber-salesman like Barnett or Dennis Green before him, we in trub.
 
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The lone bright spot is that you can transform a program more quickly (see: Prime/Colorado, though we will see how well that works out) through over-reliance on the transfer portal.
For most schools that’s true, for NU we know that isn’t the case. I doubt the new coach will be given more leeway with admissions than FItz ever got and we all know how difficult it was for Fitz to get talent through the transfer portal other than 1 year grad transfers, which we know have a slightly easier time with admissions.

Even if NU hits a grand slam with the next hire, something I am highly skeptical of, the decimation of the 2023 and 2024 recruiting classes will have a huge negative impact on NU for at least the next 3-4 seasons.
 
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For most schools that’s true, for NU we know that isn’t the case. I doubt the new coach will be given more leeway with admissions than FItz ever got and we all know how difficult it was for Fitz to get talent through the transfer portal other than 1 year grad transfers, which we know have a slightly easier time with admissions.

Even if NU hits a grand slam with the next hire, something I am highly skeptical of, the decimation of the 2023 and 2024 recruiting classes will have a huge negative impact on NU for at least the next 3-4 seasons.

Yup. We in trub.
 
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Welcome to our humble (especially these days) little purple internet living room, JimStarr. Stick around - CatManTrue knows ALLLLLLLL things (even more so than AdamOnFirst) and more importantly, is the sole source of Truth you will ever need. The rest of us peddle a lesser version, but we occasionally have fun doing it. So stick around and join us.
Correction: I don’t know all things, but I do know the truth.

That’s why Lou personally changed my username.

FWIW I’m 98% confident this is a new variant of DocCatFan2 or whatever that longterm troll was called.
 
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Barnett wasn’t an interim coach, and the scope of college football has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since the early 90s.

I think @Medill '03 might have it right. You get the bottom of the barrel. Players don’t commit to schools anymore. They commit to a coach and NIL. With an interim, we have nobody driving either bus. The AD is blowing this badly. Looks like this entire class will be a wash unless the new hire pulls some better guys in spring/summer.
Actually so much of this is the President. Gragg as AD is bad but so much of this is he is being told what to do by someone that if possible is even less competent than he is,.
 
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Correction: I don’t know all things, but I do know the truth.

That’s why Lou personally changed my username.

FWIW I’m 98% confident this is a new variant of DocCatFan2 or whatever that longterm troll was called.
Friend, I am 100% confident you are incorrect. Was this troll a needlessly negative troll or a positive troll? I thought this past bball season was absolutely incredible, but the failure to name a full time coach will probably be a killer for the fb team. Recruiting/NIL is the driving force in D1 sports…do we have anyone coordinating NIL during the absence of a coach?
 
Barnett wasn’t an interim coach, and the scope of college football has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since the early 90s.

I think @Medill '03 might have it right. You get the bottom of the barrel. Players don’t commit to schools anymore. They commit to a coach and NIL. With an interim, we have nobody driving either bus. The AD is blowing this badly. Looks like this entire class will be a wash unless the new hire pulls some better guys in spring/summer.
On the plus side, it gives a ton of open slots for the new coach to recruit his own guys and hit the transfer portal
 
AKA the Coach Prime MO.

But is @CoralSpringsCat on board? Will admissions let us turn over half the roster?

Since the problem was created by the president, admissions will be told to shut up and help him undo the damage in any way possible.

Priority 1 is probably kicking Fitzgerald's son out of Northwestern, but after that, we're going to the prison system to find football players - its Northwestern's revolutionary "Prison to Diploma" program!
 
No doubt, we’re at an incredible disadvantage with an interim head coach. It would be in the best interest of the program to name the next head coach as soon as possible. I don’t think we can afford to wait until the end of the season to name the next HC. I’m sure Schill, Gragg and company understand this and will take all the necessary steps to get it done. 🙄
Schill has not seemed to understand the ramifications of any of his actions yet. What makes you think he has a handle on this.? Gragg hasn't really showed us he is aware of anything at this point
 
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Are you hazing this guy?
I’m hoping it’s Turk. We need some of his zaniness to spice up the boards, which have been a bit depressing.

And, if it’s not Turk, it’s clearly another troll. Trolls live to be argued with, banned, and then get a new IP address to troll again. It’s like breathing to them.
 
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