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JvZ is Hurt

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"Stress reaction" according to the color woman. Sitting in a boot on the bench.

Not a good sign.
 
"Stress reaction" according to the color woman. Sitting in a boot on the bench.

Not a good sign.

Nooooootttttttt good

A stress reaction takes 6-8 weeks to properly heal, he will probably play before that, a stress reaction is not too painful, but the worry is that is could progress to a stress fracture
 
Pardon was wearing a uniform. Is this common? Could he burn his shirt if JVG is out for extended time?
 
Pardon was wearing a uniform. Is this common? Could he burn his shirt if JVG is out for extended time?

Yes, Pardon has dressed for every game. And if I was Collins and the team is playing well, I'd use him in the Big 10 season if JvZ was unable to go. Would be a shame to fall short of the Tournament in Tre and Olah's last season........
 
In the postgame, Collins said they hope that they will have him back by Loyola, so it does not appear to be serious.
 
He was not walking at all gingerly while wearing the boot tonight. If Collins hopes to have him back for some minutes during the Christmas game, that's a good sign. The team was obviously rusty to start, but quickly got it back. I'd really like to see Aaron keep taking shots, but Tap has been money this year!
 
He was not walking at all gingerly while wearing the boot tonight. If Collins hopes to have him back for some minutes during the Christmas game, that's a good sign. The team was obviously rusty to start, but quickly got it back. I'd really like to see Aaron keep taking shots, but Tap has been money this year!
I had a stress fracture years ago and it did not hurt to walk. I didn't know I had it for almost a year as when I had gone to the orthopedic surgeon it did not show up on the Xray. They had supposedly scheduled me for a bone scan and the only one they did not tell was me so I struggled through for a year trying to give it rest (but never enough) doing other things
Why is that stupid? Coble, Shurna, Crawford, Swopshire, Cobb, Law.........

and would go back to running. First time or so would be fine but by the third time I was in pain. Finally went back to the Dr and had the bone scan. It showed up. Took off about 7 weeks and then was fine.
 
Why is that stupid? Coble, Shurna, Crawford, Swopshire, Cobb, Law.........
The problem we have always had is we have never had depth. The odds are that there will be injuries. We never had the talent to overcome them. A single injury would occur and we were done. Both because enough talent never came and then because the backups never really played enough to be ready when the injuries did occur. Under BC how often did we even have a second PG on the roster? When a guy like Coble or Schurna went downthere was no one who could fill their role. And since we had no PF or legitimate center, each loss was even more damaging. Think of how bad it could have been if Juice or Sobo had gone down those years.

The difference is now, we have quality backups for every position. So even when Law goes down, it does not cripple us. Still hurts but not a season wrecker. And more depth is on the way. So going forward, the injuries will be more hiccups than game changers.
 
The problem we have always had is we have never had depth. The odds are that there will be injuries. We never had the talent to overcome them. A single injury would occur and we were done. Both because enough talent never came and then because the backups never really played enough to be ready when the injuries did occur. Under BC how often did we even have a second PG on the roster? When a guy like Coble or Schurna went downthere was no one who could fill their role. And since we had no PF or legitimate center, each loss was even more damaging. Think of how bad it could have been if Juice or Sobo had gone down those years.

The difference is now, we have quality backups for every position. So even when Law goes down, it does not cripple us. Still hurts but not a season wrecker. And more depth is on the way. So going forward, the injuries will be more hiccups than game changers.

I don't care how much depth you have, losing the best player on the team will be a killer. And Shurna, Coble, Crawford and Cobb were the best players on their respective teams when they got hurt. This season Vic is probably the 3rd best guy which is why the loss hasn't been as devastating.
 
I don't care how much depth you have, losing the best player on the team will be a killer. And Shurna, Coble, Crawford and Cobb were the best players on their respective teams when they got hurt. This season Vic is probably the 3rd best guy which is why the loss hasn't been as devastating.
On which squad was Cobb the best player?
 
On which squad was Cobb the best player?

Going into last season, Collins said he felt Cobb was the go-to guy. I have no doubt a healthy Cobb would have been the best player on the team. He won the Michigan game for NU for heaven's sake.....

"None of that could wipe the smile off his face as he proudly proclaimed, “I’m undefeated in Senior Nights in my career.”

What a night it was. In what was undoubtedly his best game of the season, Cobb dropped 14 points while hauling in eight rebounds. With Northwestern trailing late in regulation, he scored nine straight and was so in the zone that when a reporter later asked about that stretch, Cobb remarked, “Really? I didn’t know that.” "
 
Going into last season, Collins said he felt Cobb was the go-to guy. I have no doubt a healthy Cobb would have been the best player on the team. He won the Michigan game for NU for heaven's sake.....

"None of that could wipe the smile off his face as he proudly proclaimed, “I’m undefeated in Senior Nights in my career.”

What a night it was. In what was undoubtedly his best game of the season, Cobb dropped 14 points while hauling in eight rebounds. With Northwestern trailing late in regulation, he scored nine straight and was so in the zone that when a reporter later asked about that stretch, Cobb remarked, “Really? I didn’t know that.” "
Unfortunately, Cobb was never healthy enough to be the best player. Could he have been? Yes but he was never healthy enough. And had he not had injury problems, Collins would likely never have seen him.
 
I don't care how much depth you have, losing the best player on the team will be a killer. And Shurna, Coble, Crawford and Cobb were the best players on their respective teams when they got hurt. This season Vic is probably the 3rd best guy which is why the loss hasn't been as devastating.
UNC is doing ok without Marcus Paige
 
I don't care how much depth you have, losing the best player on the team will be a killer. And Shurna, Coble, Crawford and Cobb were the best players on their respective teams when they got hurt. This season Vic is probably the 3rd best guy which is why the loss hasn't been as devastating.

Can add Vukusic to that. And if you count unexpected departures, Carlisle and Parker.
 
I don't care how much depth you have, losing the best player on the team will be a killer. And Shurna, Coble, Crawford and Cobb were the best players on their respective teams when they got hurt. This season Vic is probably the 3rd best guy which is why the loss hasn't been as devastating.

But if you have depth, the chances that your top guys will get injured lessens because they're not on the court as much. A prime example of that was Shurna's injury. It was the last couple minutes of a blowout victory over a cupcake right before the B1G season, and Shurna was still in the game because the team had such little depth. That one was killer.

It's why we're worried about alleviating the MPG of BMac and Demps. CCC is trying with BMac, but seems to think Demps is an iron man...
 
But if you have depth, the chances that your top guys will get injured lessens because they're not on the court as much. A prime example of that was Shurna's injury. It was the last couple minutes of a blowout victory over a cupcake right before the B1G season, and Shurna was still in the game because the team had such little depth. That one was killer.

It's why we're worried about alleviating the MPG of BMac and Demps. CCC is trying with BMac, but seems to think Demps is an iron man...
Yeah. BMac at 28 mins against CSU was good. Demps at 34 in a 42 pt win..? Not so much.
 
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