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So, we can now assume that Braun and the rest of the coaches will not be retained. They're coaching now for a paycheck, pride, and their next job. Good luck at your next stop.

Who's at the top of your wish list? Who's a likely target by Gragg and Schill, that dynamic duo?
 
So, we can now assume that Braun and the rest of the coaches will not be retained. They're coaching now for a paycheck, pride, and their next job. Good luck at your next stop.

Who's at the top of your wish list? Who's a likely target by Gragg and Schill, that dynamic duo?

Thirty seven year old and Chicagoland native Sean Lewis, current OC at Colorado and former Kent State Head Coach.
 
Yup. I think Braun is doing a great job managing and motivating the student athletes, keeping the team and assistants together and representing the program to the media. He cannot be faulted for any lack of success this year because we were starting from a 1-11 baseline, which was trending downward in talent level even before the scandal, and now has a depleted, distracted and demoralized team on top of it.

There should be zero hit to his coaching reputation if we go 1-11 again. He will find a good job. It's too bad because he might have been a great DC for us and successor head coach, but he's going to be out with everyone else when the house is cleaned.
 
Yup. I think Braun is doing a great job managing and motivating the student athletes, keeping the team and assistants together and representing the program to the media. He cannot be faulted for any lack of success this year because we were starting from a 1-11 baseline, which was trending downward in talent level even before the scandal, and now has a depleted, distracted and demoralized team on top of it.

There should be zero hit to his coaching reputation if we go 1-11 again. He will find a good job. It's too bad because he might have been a great DC for us and successor head coach, but he's going to be out with everyone else when the house is cleaned.
I like Braun and based on what I saw today I would not be opposed at all to retaining him as DC if he were open to that.
 
I like Braun and based on what I saw today I would not be opposed at all to retaining him as DC if he were open to that.
Me too but I just don't think that will happen unless he wins 4+ games. And if he does, he will probably be offered some pretty good jobs.
 
Thirty seven year old and Chicagoland native Sean Lewis, current OC at Colorado and former Kent State Head Coach.
Unbelievable, I am in with Corbi on some things. I like where you are going with this man. A guy who can get an offense to outscore TCU, and has HC experience already. Mirrors that somewhat of my Uncle and he is in the Hall of Fame. Lewis might not be who we get, but the type of man we get to get this show going.
 
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Thirty seven year old and Chicagoland native Sean Lewis, current OC at Colorado and former Kent State Head Coach.

All in if we go “young up and comer.” Hartline as well. Been beating both those drums for quite a while.

Chris Creighton if we want to go with “veteran coach culture changer.”
 
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So, we can now assume that Braun and the rest of the coaches will not be retained. They're coaching now for a paycheck, pride, and their next job. Good luck at your next stop.

Who's at the top of your wish list? Who's a likely target by Gragg and Schill, that dynamic duo?
Willie Fritz, Tulane

 
All in if we go “young up and comer.” Hartline as well. Been beating both those drums for quite a while.

Chris Creighton if we want to go with “veteran coach culture changer.”
Hartline May be great but I want a proven head coach. Lewis is such an attractive candidate because at such a young age he already has a pretty good track record as a head coach having done a remarkable job bringing the Kent State program back from the dead.
 
Gary Patterson who kicked out ass.
Sean Lewis
Jerry Kill
Yes, , like EC says Urban Meyer

There are coaches out there, cmon.
 
Gary Patterson who kicked out ass.
Sean Lewis
Jerry Kill
Yes, , like EC says Urban Meyer

There are coaches out there, cmon.
Dave Clausen of Wake Forest. He’s the only active Division 1 coach who has won championships in 4 different Division 1 conferences. We need a coach who has proven he can built championships
 
Dave Clausen of Wake Forest. He’s the only active Division 1 coach who has won championships in 4 different Division 1 conferences. We need a coach who has proven he can built championships
Why would he leave the great situation he has at Wake Forest to take the NU job? We need to be realistic and look for candidates that may want NU as much as NU wants them.
 
All in if we go “young up and comer.” Hartline as well. Been beating both those drums for quite a while.

Chris Creighton if we want to go with “veteran coach culture changer.”
I am an EMU alum, I like Creighton exactly where he is, but he would make a great HC at NU. He changed the culture there in Ypsilanti after decades of average to mediocre football.
 
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We need a coach who can recruit above his pay grade. Braun is not that man.
 
Coach Kinne at Texas State. He coached at Incarnate Word. He just took a 2022 4-8 Texas State team into Baylor and soundly won. His offense last year averaged 581 yards per game and 51.50 points per game. Let him bring his entire staff and completely change the program. He is 34.
 
Yup. I think Braun is doing a great job managing and motivating the student athletes, keeping the team and assistants together and representing the program to the media. He cannot be faulted for any lack of success this year because we were starting from a 1-11 baseline, which was trending downward in talent level even before the scandal, and now has a depleted, distracted and demoralized team on top of it.

There should be zero hit to his coaching reputation if we go 1-11 again. He will find a good job. It's too bad because he might have been a great DC for us and successor head coach, but he's going to be out with everyone else when the house is cleaned.
You're assuumption that the house will be cleaned is based on what, at this point? Do you have some inside information?
 
Coach Kinne at Texas State. He coached at Incarnate Word. He just took a 2022 4-8 Texas State team into Baylor and soundly won. His offense last year averaged 581 yards per game and 51.50 points per game. Let him bring his entire staff and completely change the program. He is 34.
He recruits with no academic standards. He could not do that at NU and probably would not want the job because of it.
 
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Would he stay more than a year? Guy changes jobs every year like clockwork.
@ Corbi and kaTnap

To address both concerns, you pay him enough to stay with a high buyout clause. The point on recruiting standards is in my opinion bunk. He has taken lesser recruits and won. NU is at or below Vanderbilt levels.

After Colorado's performance yesterday, NU has no chance for the Colorado coach. Chris Crieghton is meh.

The only way to succeed at this point is a complete program change, even if it is only two years. If a high-flying offense comes in, I think the academic standards will not become a lesser obstacle since players will be interested in NU. NU needs a program changer. NU has to become creative and take risks.
 
@ Corbi and kaTnap

To address both concerns, you pay him enough to stay with a high buyout clause. The point on recruiting standards is in my opinion bunk. He has taken lesser recruits and won. NU is at or below Vanderbilt levels.

After Colorado's performance yesterday, NU has no chance for the Colorado coach. Chris Crieghton is meh.

The only way to succeed at this point is a complete program change, even if it is only two years. If a high-flying offense comes in, I think the academic standards will not become a lesser obstacle since players will be interested in NU. NU needs a program changer. NU has to become creative and take risks.
NU has already taken some risks and we see how that is working out. This may be a long ordeal. Where does the sorting out begin and with whom? Sounds like a football coach goes parachuting and accidentally lands in Ryan Field.
 
@ Corbi and kaTnap

To address both concerns, you pay him enough to stay with a high buyout clause. The point on recruiting standards is in my opinion bunk. He has taken lesser recruits and won. NU is at or below Vanderbilt levels.

After Colorado's performance yesterday, NU has no chance for the Colorado coach. Chris Crieghton is meh.

The only way to succeed at this point is a complete program change, even if it is only two years. If a high-flying offense comes in, I think the academic standards will not become a lesser obstacle since players will be interested in NU. NU needs a program changer. NU has to become creative and take risks.
NU having higher academic standards for football player admissions is bunk? Not sure what world you are living in. Right off the bat I am confident in saying that NU can’t recruit 75% of D1 caliber HS football recruits in every class. When your pool of recruits is 1/4 the size of most other schools, recruiting well is very challenging. That’s not bunk.
 
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NU having higher academic standards for football player admissions is bunk? Not sure what world you are living in. Right off the bat I am confident in saying that NU can’t recruit 75% of D1 caliber HS football recruits in every class. When your pool of recruits is 1/4 the size of most other schools, recruiting well is very challenging. That’s not bunk.
I am well aware of the academic restrictions argument. Under these same academic restrictions, NU had the following national ranking for defenses:

2012-29th
2013--63rd
2014-43rd
2015--12th
2016--23rd
2017-17th
2018-41st
2019-43rd
2020-5th.

Facts refute your argument. You can get players and compete on a national level of excellence with the academic restrictions. It is called coaching.

Further, I admire the positions you took with respect to Fitz. However, you also gushed and lauded over Coach Anderson. The offensive line sucks. He is getting those same smart players, but the O line blows, even with 1st rounders in the line up. Your assessment as to character is excellent, but as to coaching ability is suspect at best.

If NU gets a good offensive coach to change the program, the players will come. Also need to add cash to the formula.
 
I love the idea of bringing over Lewis. He will have experienced what it is like to take a program as bad as NU’s and turn it around right quick. He will have learned from Coach Prime.

Ideal candidate right there.
 
I am well aware of the academic restrictions argument. Under these same academic restrictions, NU had the following national ranking for defenses:

2012-29th
2013--63rd
2014-43rd
2015--12th
2016--23rd
2017-17th
2018-41st
2019-43rd
2020-5th.

Facts refute your argument. You can get players and compete on a national level of excellence with the academic restrictions. It is called coaching.

Further, I admire the positions you took with respect to Fitz. However, you also gushed and lauded over Coach Anderson. The offensive line sucks. He is getting those same smart players, but the O line blows, even with 1st rounders in the line up. Your assessment as to character is excellent, but as to coaching ability is suspect at best.

If NU gets a good offensive coach to change the program, the players will come. Also need to add cash to the formula.
LOL, are you actually preaching to me that the right coach, who knows how to sell NU can compete at NU? I know that. We had that coach and his name is Pat Fitzgerald. My point is that not all coaches can or want to do that. Unless you have coached and recruited at a school like NU, it’s unlikely that coach will have the contacts and the know how to successfully recruit for a school like NU that is pulling from a pool of recruits that is probably 1/4 the size of other schools.
 
So, we can now assume that Braun and the rest of the coaches will not be retained. They're coaching now for a paycheck, pride, and their next job. Good luck at your next stop.

Who's at the top of your wish list? Who's a likely target by Gragg and Schill, that dynamic duo?
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

take a flying one at a rolling one
 
LOL, are you actually preaching to me that the right coach, who knows how to sell NU can compete at NU? I know that. We had that coach and his name is Pat Fitzgerald. My point is that not all coaches can or want to do that. Unless you have coached and recruited at a school like NU, it’s unlikely that coach will have the contacts and the know how to successfully recruit for a school like NU that is pulling from a pool of recruits that is probably 1/4 the size of other schools.
This was all Mike's doing. Look at the records/ratings before and after he was at NU.
 
This was all Mike's doing. Look at the records/ratings before and after he was at NU.
Oh yes, I forgot about Saint Mike. It was all him. Did he take a vacation in 2019? Please spare me.
 
Actually it was a very accomplished coach
That is definitely not Dr Gragg. This is the thing, I feel with the right leadership we could land a good coach. That being said, no dice with our leadership.
 
Please stop the BS that NU can't get great coaching. Five words--Ara Parseghian, Gary Barnett, Hank. And Green and Agase and Walker and Fitz were darn good. The question is, does NU now want to and are they capable of that? Hank certainly proved NU can have great defense, Barnett proved NU can have both, as did Parseghian. Another question, if they get another great coach, can they keep him? The great ones leave, the good ones stay on, and on...as we have seen recently, until they burn out.
 
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Please stop the BS that NU can't get great coaching. Five words--Ara Parseghian, Gary Barnett, Hank. And Green and Agase and Walker and Fitz were darn good. The question is, does NU now want to and are they capable of that? Hank certainly proved NU can have great defense, Barnett proved NU can have both, as did Parseghian. Another question, if they get another great coach, can they keep him? The great ones leave, the good ones stay on, and on...as we have seen recently, until they burn out.
So you truly feel with Gragg and Schill in place a great coach will say, yes to working for these two?
 
That is definitely not Dr Gragg. This is the thing, I feel with the right leadership we could land a good coach. That being said, no dice with our leadership.
Coaches see this as a program where you can average 5-6 wins without big pressure and make a lot of money. The program has the financial resources to build a competitive team. There are some foundational issues that are being dealt with as of now that will help attract a coach and build the program. With all the vitriol for Gragg and Schill, I'm told that they are working to revolutionize NU football and have strong support. Dissect and dissent as you please, but if i tell you a rooster chews tobacco, look under His wing and you will find a can of Skoal!
 
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