Miles Bridges, Izzo

[Alan Smithee]

Among the names discussed in documents viewed by Yahoo Sports in the federal corruption investigation into college basketball.
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sport...ools-103338484.html?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

Wow!

 

[Sec.112]

With .jpgs of the documents!!

I'm still betting the NCAA won't do much.

 

[Alan Smithee]

With .jpgs of the documents!!

I'm still betting the NCAA won't do much.

As the article suggests, the NCAA isn't in a position to do much quickly. They don't automatically have access to the same documents as the feds - and would need to defer to the federal investigation anyway to avoid interfering with it. Once we see some resolution in the federal cases, it will be interesting to see what the NCAA does.

In the meantime it will also be interesting to see what individual schools do with individual players (and/or coaches) as a prophylactic.

 

[Jonny2TheP]

I trust that the NCAA will do the right thing. Their past record is pristine. Nothing but confidence in them.

 

[NU Houston]

Systematic cheating, with schools and the NCAA turning a blind eye because they don't want to shake up the cash cow and they think the fans really don't care all that much. We'll see if that's the case.

This isn't a situation of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. It's a system that's pretty rotten to the core, with minimal to no oversight (except from the feds).

I like watching NBA basketball, but I'm done with the NCAA for now, and not just because NU is having a rough season.

 

[phatcat]

What would the federal charge be? Bribery? Racketeering ? Feds won't give a shite if they broke toothless ncaa rules

 

[Hungry Jack]

NCAA = Not Concerned About Accountability

 

[Catreporter]

This is the perfect storm. Lots of kids of modest means (or less!) connected with agents who seek to cash in on their futures as they play for "AAU" teams. One-and-done culture has really accelerated this because potential payoffs are more immediate for the agents. A few years ago, Shon Morris told me "you wouldn't believe the underside of basketball recruiting." It's probably gotten nothing but worse since then.

 

[Alan Smithee]

What would the federal charge be? Bribery? Racketeering ? Feds won't give a shite if they broke toothless ncaa rules

Charges have already *BEEN* filed against some, for wire fraud, bribery, and money laundering.

 

[hdhntr1]

Makes

This is the perfect storm. Lots of kids of modest means (or less!) connected with agents who seek to cash in on their futures as they play for "AAU" teams. One-and-done culture has really accelerated this because potential payoffs are more immediate for the agents. A few years ago, Shon Morris told me "you wouldn't believe the underside of basketball recruiting." It's probably gotten nothing but worse since then.

Makes you wonder how NU is able to land any of these top players

 

[Catreporter]

Makes

Makes you wonder how NU is able to land any of these top players

Uh, who's the last 5-star, sure-NBA prospect we have landed?

 

[NJCat]

Uh, who's the last 5-star, sure-NBA prospect we have landed?

Ed McCants.

 

[NUCat320]

NCAA = Not Concerned About Accountability

No Chance (they're) Amateur Athletes

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Why do we think anything would happen to Izzo? He is just going to claim he didn’t know anything about Bridges mother taking $400 cash. It’s basically a Money laundering racket where middle men pass money to families on behalf of the School, coaches or boosters. Tying the player or the coach into it can be difficult because they never exchange cash or get caught in the vicinity when the exchange happens.

 

[nycat33]

It will be interesting what the wire taps reveal. Arizona's Sean Miller was recorded talking to the agent's runner about 100k payment to DeAndre Ayton's family to make sure he goes to Arizona. Could be a bunch of great college jobs opening up this spring...

 

[corbi296]

It will be interesting what the wire taps reveal. Arizona's Sean Miller was recorded talking to the agent's runner about 100k payment to DeAndre Ayton's family to make sure he goes to Arizona. Could be a bunch of great college jobs opening up this spring...

This is ridiculous. They should just let HS seniors go pro so the college game does not have to deal with a bunch of these guys who make a charade out of going to school. They are just pro players biding their time. Let them go and the NBA can act as its own developmental league.

 

[CatManTrue]

This is ridiculous. They should just let HS seniors go pro so the college game does not have to deal with a bunch of these guys who make a charade out of going to school. They are just pro players biding their time. Let them go and the NBA can act as its own developmental league.

I’d like to see something like college baseball’s rule implemented. Either you go pro out of HS, or you commit to 3 seasons in college before you can go pro. Players like LeBron and Kevin Durant were clearly ready as 18 year-olds, whereas NBA rookies Kyle Kuzma and Reggie Hearn benefited from four years of college development.

The one-and-done rule has always been a sham, and I hope all of these cheating head coaches’ heads roll. Despite all of our team’s struggles this season: at least CCC recruits and coaches clean and I’m always proud to cheer for our Wildcats.

 

[NJCat]

This is ridiculous. They should just let HS seniors go pro so the college game does not have to deal with a bunch of these guys who make a charade out of going to school. They are just pro players biding their time. Let them go and the NBA can act as its own developmental league.

Who is "they"? The reason high school players can't go directly to the NBA is the collective bargaining agreement between the owners and the NBA players Union states a player must be a year and a day removed from their high school graduation to be able to play in the NBA. I have no clue whether it is the owners or the players who want this restriction, but the Universities have no say in the matter. The only way around it is for a kid to go to Europe or China for a year and play pro ball before becoming eligible for the NBA.

But I agree with you, it is ridiculous for kids to play 1 year in college just to become eligible for the NBA.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

This is ridiculous. They should just let HS seniors go pro so the college game does not have to deal with a bunch of these guys who make a charade out of going to school. They are just pro players biding their time. Let them go and the NBA can act as its own developmental league.

How would Cal be able to recruit for Kentucky then?

 

[phatcat]

Charges have already *BEEN* filed against some, for wire fraud, bribery, and money laundering.

Ok good that has teeth and involves jail etc. Not some BS reduction in scholarships or a rogue assistant resigning

 

[NUCat320]

I’d like to see something like college baseball’s rule implemented. Either you go pro out of HS, or you commit to 3 seasons in college before you can go pro. Players like LeBron and Kevin Durant were clearly ready as 18 year-olds, whereas NBA rookies Kyle Kuzma and Reggie Hearn benefited from four years of college development.

The one-and-done rule has always been a sham, and I hope all of these cheating head coaches’ heads roll. Despite all of our team’s struggles this season: at least CCC recruits and coaches clean and I’m always proud to cheer for our Wildcats.

The NBA could enforce the age limit and get rid of one-and-dones simply by making high school seniors eligible for the draft (if declared), but mandating that such players be stashed in the G-League for a year.

 

[NJCat]

The NBA could enforce the age limit and get rid of one-and-dones simply by making high school seniors eligible for the draft (if declared), but mandating that such players be stashed in the G-League for a year.

The kids would have to take a pay cut relative to going to college for a year!!

 

[willycat]

Who is "they"? The reason high school players can't go directly to the NBA is the collective bargaining agreement between the owners and the NBA players Union states a player must be a year and a day removed from their high school graduation to be able to play in the NBA. I have no clue whether it is the owners or the players who want this restriction, but the Universities have no say in the matter. The only way around it is for a kid to go to Europe or China for a year and play pro ball before becoming eligible for the NBA.

But I agree with you, it is ridiculous for kids to play 1 year in college just to become eligible for the NBA.

Right it's a NBA rule and not an NCAA one. Also agree that it is more then ridiculous to have the colleges babysit these kids for a year. Thinking that another way to stop this foolishness is for the universities to only offer the players who can actually get into their schools. Derrick Rose is the perfect example of someone who didn't belong in college. It was widely reported that he had someone else take his ACT, up in Michigan for him, so why didn't the NCAA act?

 

[NUCat320]

The kids would have to take a pay cut relative to going to college for a year!!

Players in the G who are on an NBA contract are paid according to their NBA contract, but I see what you're saying.

The best possible NBA developmental system includes a level below the G-League - kind of an A-Ball/Rookie level to the G-League's Triple-A. I think we can get there in the next 20 years or so.

I think a single-location structure with games in a single gym all day (look at the low-level Gulf Coast League, played by 16-19 year olds from June-August on MLB spring training complexes) could be hugely popular for basketball junkies. And I think basketball junkies are the most passionate sports fan base, mostly because YouTube is where cool dunks live.

 

[Walker Fan]

Google Lavar Ball and his new concept for the top high school basketball players who don’t want to be student-athletes and want to get paid out of high school. He is working on getting the top players paid a certain annual salary and forgo going to college and stopping the farce know as the 6-month one and done concept. This league will level the playing field for schools who are trying to educate student athletes like NU.

 

[willycat]

Google Lavar Ball and his new concept for the top high school basketball players who don’t want to be student-athletes and want to get paid out of high school. He is working on getting the top players paid a certain annual salary and forgo going to college and stopping the farce know as the 6-month one and done concept. This league will level the playing field for schools who are trying to educate student athletes like NU.

Don't like a lot of Ball's actions but this one deserves backing. hey maybe the shoe companies could give their money to this league rather the under the table crap they're doing currently.

 

[Alaskawildkat]

Google Lavar Ball and his new concept for the top high school basketball players who don’t want to be student-athletes and want to get paid out of high school. He is working on getting the top players paid a certain annual salary and forgo going to college and stopping the farce know as the 6-month one and done concept. This league will level the playing field for schools who are trying to educate student athletes like NU.

Don't like a lot of Ball's actions but this one deserves backing. hey maybe the shoe companies could give their money to this league rather the under the table crap they're doing currently.

Does Ball's plan include contributions by sunglasses companies as well?

 

[willycat]

Does Ball's plan include contributions by sunglasses companies as well?

Hey another marketing idea. Each team with different color sunglasses!

 

[hdhntr1]

Who is "they"? The reason high school players can't go directly to the NBA is the collective bargaining agreement between the owners and the NBA players Union states a player must be a year and a day removed from their high school graduation to be able to play in the NBA. I have no clue whether it is the owners or the players who want this restriction, but the Universities have no say in the matter. The only way around it is for a kid to go to Europe or China for a year and play pro ball before becoming eligible for the NBA.

But I agree with you, it is ridiculous for kids to play 1 year in college just to become eligible for the NBA.

Which means they play school for 1 semester or a quarter or two.