NY/NJ/CT: Self-isolate if you come here

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  1. NUCat320

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    Thanks, Florida.
     
  2. Hungry Jack

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    This strikes me as racist. Floridians are a race, after all.
     
  3. NU Houston

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    What's your sense of what's happening in Georgia? It was one of the first states to reopen, and despite the dire predictions at the time, doesn't seem to be doing as badly as Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc. I realize that this is relative comparison and that everyone across the country should still be on high alert.
     
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    Georgia has had more deaths than Texas and, per capita, thrice.

    Texas has a lot of catching up to do before achieving the per capita death rate of just about the rest of the country.
     
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    I'm curious about the consistency in counting Covid19 related deaths from state to state (and country to country). Saying that Texas has a lower death rate could be a function of how the number of deaths is determined. Otherwise we're just implying that Texans are stronger and tougher than the rest.

    Russia likes to say that its death rate is low, but like much of the info that comes out of that country, I don't believe it.
     
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    I think he’s saying purely deaths per capita, not deaths per positive case.
     
  7. NU Houston

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    Even so, my point is that different jurisdictions have different ways of calculating deaths related to Covid-19. It's not always as simple as a situation where someone tests positive for Covid-19, is admitted to the hospital, and then dies. How much back work do you do on someone who had Covid-19 related symptoms and died, but who was never tested while living? I would say that Russia (and possibly Texas) don't want to make the extra effort just to show that more people are dying from Covid-19. Hence the low death rates (per capita and otherwise).
     
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    Sure looks like Texas not only caught up but took the lead.
     
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    Show me where Texas took the lead in per capita COVID-19 deaths.

    I'll be waiting.
     
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    Everything is bigger there.
     
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    No they are not.
     
  12. Fitz51

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    Whether or not you found HJ’s comment humorous, it was obviously intended as such.
     
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    HILARIOUS!!!
     
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    I heard a theory the other day regarding Southern states. Outside seems to be less of an issue that indoors. And while before, Southern clime was more conducive to being outside much more than up North but now with much higher temps, people are forced inside down South while they are getting outside up North
     
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    I heard a theory that this is a deadly virus that spreads really easily and that lack of social distancing, testing, and mask wearing is causing exactly what was predicted by experts from the very beginning.
     
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  16. Fitz51

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    Imagine that.

    ****ing reality deniers, spurred on (regardless of political affiliation) by the highest levels of government. The lack of a consistent response and rampant confusion about what is to be done leads to people not doing what needs to be done. We are a goddamn stupid nation.
     
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    Wasn’t the virus supposed to go away with warm weather? Arizona, Texas and Florida are the three hottest states. This must be fake news, let’s go back to talking about Hilary’s emails or the caravan of immigrants that only show up a couple of months before the general election.
     
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    It is a reasonable response. 120 million have died.
     
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    Yeah but nobody thought to figure that when it gets super hot, people stay indoors with AC blowin' virus around.
     
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    I’ve pointed this out before, but GCG has no sense of humor. None. He really believed the “Floridians are a race” comment was serious.
     
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    I really do, some people just say and do stupid shit that isn't actually funny.
     
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    Those states got a head start. Over 32,000 deaths in NY (a quarter of the nation's total!). Over 15,000 deaths in New Jersey. Over 4,000 in tiny Connecticut.

    Under 2,500 in Texas. Under 4,000 in Florida (better than Connecticut in total numbers, not just per capita!).

    Yeah, let's do what those three states did.
     
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    Insufficient testing.
     
  26. villox

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    great idea. Just go ahead and ignore the lessons learned about what happens when you have massive unchecked spread. We didn’t know we had so many cases because we had no tests. We acted too late. But now we’re under control. States choosing not to act WITH testing and filling up hospitals is downright insane and criminal.
     
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    Nothing to see here, all is well.

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    At this point, I have to just assume you're trolling, because this is a post more worthy of like the 320th commenter on a newspaper's twitter feed than it is a logical discussion. Either that or you're being disingenuous, which is my new favorite word around here because it's so frequent.
     
  29. DaCat

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    Whoosh! Completely whiffed on that one, sport.
     
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    The blue line had a head start.
     
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    The blue line did have a head start. The read line encompasses 48 states.
     
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    Another way of looking at it:
    We flattened the curve for 2 and a half months. (Right up until the BLM protests, too!)

    But it's not realistic to shut down everything forever. At some point, it needs to run its course, like it did in NY and NJ.
     
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    Nor has anyone, anywhere, at any time said that. A little ****ing public compliance with mask wearing would be nice, though. Quit looking at other states and start looking at other countries, because this one is filled with selfish morons.
     
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    It only “ran its course” in New York because they only re-opened when it was safe. The other states economies will be destroyed when people stop feeling safe.

    this is what’s happening in Arizona already. We are screwed.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/leaving-hospital-tears-arizona-doctors-worry-icus-fill/story?id=71519097
     
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    New York has over 32,000 COVID-19 deaths. Almost half of the COVID-19 deaths in the entire country came from the "tri-state" area.

    They had a head start. Other states shut down when it hadn't really spread to them yet. Maybe if they hadn't shut down (destroying the economy) when they weren't being hit, people wouldn't be resistant to shutting down again now when they are being hit.

    But they have a lot of catching up to do to match the legacy of death in the tri-state area.
     
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    Silliness. The tri-states learned their lesson. The rest of the country should learn from what happened, but apparently haven't.
     
  37. villox

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    other states could have shut down until they had testing and contract tracing in place and had crushed their curves by following CDC guidelines on re-opening. this isn’t an inevitable virus. You can stop it before it leads to mass death. Why do you think so many countries were able to have so few deaths?

    I believe it was found at one point that if NY had shut down just two weeks earlier, we’d have had half as many deaths.

    The economy will he destroyed when people are dying. This is a fact.
     
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    The only lesson the tri-states learned is that Trump screwed them with inadequate testing. Address the testing problem and the others go away.
     
  39. villox

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    I had a COVID test 8 days ago and I just got my result today. (Negative btw) This is in NYC. This far into the pandemic, that’s insane. The lines for testing in the south are likely obscuring just how bad it is because people won’t bother.
     
  40. NU Houston

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    You're speculating.
     

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