OT: Congratulations to my Brother-in-Law retiring from 46 years of coaching

[WaveJumper]

high school, college and 24 years in the NFL. He's coached running backs, tight ends, offensive line, and been an offensive coordinator.

Stops along the way include Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri, Illinois, Purdue, Iowa State, TCU, Texas A&M, St Louis Cardinals, Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Panthers, and the Washington Football Team.

No more 16 hour days!

 

[CoralSpringsCat]

high school, college and 24 years in the NFL. He's coached running backs, tight ends, offensive line, and been an offensive coordinator.

Stops along the way include Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri, Illinois, Purdue, Iowa State, TCU, Texas A&M, St Louis Cardinals, Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Panthers, and the Washington Football Team.

No more 16 hour days!

Wow…hope he bought stock in Mayflower Moving Company!

 

[WaveJumper]

I think he's moved about 16 times, but that's probably a low guess.

 

[CoralSpringsCat]

I think he's moved about 16 times, but that's probably a low guess.

Tough on the families. Not easy on coach’s wives and kids.

 

[FloridAlum]

None of my family members have been chased out of town anywhere near that many times

 

[corbi296]

high school, college and 24 years in the NFL. He's coached running backs, tight ends, offensive line, and been an offensive coordinator.

Stops along the way include Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri, Illinois, Purdue, Iowa State, TCU, Texas A&M, St Louis Cardinals, Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Panthers, and the Washington Football Team.

No more 16 hour days!

Pete Hoener?

 

[WaveJumper]

Yes. Gruden once called Pete the best tight ends coach in the NFL. His teams and players won many awards including a trip to the Super Bowl where the Panthers, unfortunately, came up short. If you want to know what kind of coach Pete was, lookup Greg Olsen's comments on Pete's retirement. He coached quite a few Pro bowlers and recruited Ladamien Tomlinson while at TCU.

We also have a nephew who is with the Packers.

 

[WaveJumper]

None of my family members have been chased out of town anywhere near that many times

There are two types of lies - lies, and big lies.

 

[mountaindrew]

high school, college and 24 years in the NFL. He's coached running backs, tight ends, offensive line, and been an offensive coordinator.

Stops along the way include Illinois State, Indiana State, Missouri, Illinois, Purdue, Iowa State, TCU, Texas A&M, St Louis Cardinals, Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Panthers, and the Washington Football Team.

No more 16 hour days!

Hopefully now he can pack up the family and join you down at South Padre Island, ride some waves on the Bay and have some real fun. 46 years.... wow. I thought six was a lot to not have a life outside of coaching.

 

[techtim72]

The best accolade to your brother-in-law was that he was able to stay employed that long - particularly in a business that favors youth. Getting rarer.

 

[WaveJumper]

In the NFL, head coaches get fired often. When that happens, you, sometimes, also lose your job through no fault of your own. You just hitched your wagon to the wrong star. Pete has never been fired directly, although he has lost a position because the head man was fired. However he has never been unemployed for longer than a couple of months basically, because of his rep as a coach, and also because of the professional contacts he has made after having been in the league for so long. So in a highly volatile oiccupation, he has been constantly employed for 46 years. Just as a for instance, when Ron Rivera was fired at Carolina, Pete was also let go. But when Rivera was hired by Washington fairly shortly after, he asked Pete to come to Washington as well as John Masko. Pete was one of two members of the Panthers staff that Rivera wanted in Washington. That is exactly why he moved around so much.

What's really interesting about him, is that he has told me that he would be just as happy coaching high school ball as college, or the NFL. It's true for sure, that the money reward is significantly greater at the NFL level, but the relationships that you form with your players, and watching them develop as men, is every bit as rewarding.

 

[Eurocat]

Did he ever want to be a Head Coach and it never happened, or did not feel like that was something he would enjoy with all the glad-handing, the politics, watching every word you say, etc?

Also, what one (or two) things would he tell us that most fans don't know or realize?

 

[heet75]

I think he's moved about 16 times, but that's probably a low guess.

For love of the game!!... hope all is well with the jumper

 

[WaveJumper]

Good to hear from you Heet. Hope the same for you.

 

[WaveJumper]

Did he ever want to be a Head Coach and it never happened, or did not feel like that was something he would enjoy with all the glad-handing, the politics, watching every word you say, etc?

Also, what one (or two) things would he tell us that most fans don't know or realize?

Most coaches aspire to be a head coach. Just like we all want to be CEO's. In that respect, i don't think he's any different than anyone else.

When he was at TCU as the offensive coordinator, and Pat Sullivan was the head coach, a couple of unicorn moments occured. First TCU won the SW conference (with Max Knacke as their QB) and Pete knew that they had an excellent recruiting class coming in. We saw them beat Texas, at Texas, that year. Among other excellent players coming in, he recruited Ladanian Tomlinson. The second thing that happened is that Pat Sullivan resigned, and Pete was told by the then AD that he was number 1 in line to succeed Sullivan. Unfortunately that AD also left, and the new AD wanted to pick Sullivan's replacement, and of course he did. The irony of it is that Dennis Francionne got the TCU job eventually, whom I have about as much respect for as pond scum! My wife and I think that was the job Pete really wanted - he had sole responsibility for the offense, and had helped to recruit an incoming class which allowed TCU to re-load not re-bound. They were definitely on an upward trajectory. As it turned out, TCU had a run of very succesful seasons even after he left. Just conjecture, that the way things turned out might have had a significant influence on the direction he took (basically back to the NFL). Don't know, because it's something I never talked to him about- and wouldn't.

I'm prejudiced because he's family. Having said that, I think he's a helava good coach, and even a better man. All four years he was the OC at Iowa State, the clones beat Io-a.

I don't have any idea what he might tell you because Pete and I rarely discuss football. He's a pretty private person and talking football with him is like using his toothbrush. It's a frowned upon thing!

 

[Eurocat]

Thanks wavejumper!

 

[CatManTrue]

Did he coach offensive line?

Since he has free time now, could you get him to independently assess our situation?

For free? On a public message board?

 

[WaveJumper]

Did he coach offensive line?

Since he has free time now, could you get him to independently assess our situation?

For free? On a public message board?

Yes, at quite a few stops. He was also an Offensive coordinator.

The second and third parts bring up Pete's (almost) connection to NU. Back when Francis Peay was the head coach, his offensive coordinator was one of Pete's great friends and a very valuable mentor, Dick Jamieson. Dick was very much respected by Pete, and I know Pete gave a lot of credit to Dick for helping him to become a better coach. At this time, Pete was the offensive line coach at Purdue. In talking to my wife, I'm led to believe there might have been some interest in Pete coming to NU because of his connection to Dick, but at the time NU's coaching pay scale was pretty much below standard so nothing ever came of it.

Dick Jamieson was one of the best atheletes ever to come out of Peoria. He played both professional baseball (in the minors) and professional football. He was also good man!

 

[Gladeskat]

The irony of it is that Dennis Francionne got the TCU job eventually, whom I have about as much respect for as pond scum!

What do you have against pond scum? Pond scum was my "bread and butter" for 10 years. I even wrote a book on identifying bugs from cast skins in Everglades pond scum. By the way, it's free to anyone interested in pond scum.

Don't mind me. I'm just enjoying being weird. One aspect of my weirdness is defending pond scum whenever the opportunity arises. Nothing beats the efficiency of sampling pond scum for detecting nutrient enrichment in Everglades marshes, but who cares when insulting that turd, Franchione.

 

[CatManTrue]

Yes, at quite a few stops. He was also an Offensive coordinator.

The second and third parts bring up Pete's (almost) connection to NU. Back when Francis Peay was the head coach, his offensive coordinator was one of Pete's great friends and a very valuable mentor, Dick Jamieson. Dick was very much respected by Pete, and I know Pete gave a lot of credit to Dick for helping him to become a better coach. At this time, Pete was the offensive line coach at Purdue. In talking to my wife, I'm led to believe there might have been some interest in Pete coming to NU because of his connection to Dick, but at the time NU's coaching pay scale was pretty much below standard so nothing ever came of it.

Dick Jamieson was one of the best atheletes ever to come out of Peoria. He played both professional baseball (in the minors) and professional football. He was also good man!

So what does your BIL think about our constant OL woes & deficincies, given we’ve struggled with it for over 2 decades.

Is it something we’ll always struggle with given our constraints, or can Anderson turn it around? Do other academically inclined programs struggle consistently in the trenches? Boston College never seems to, and Stanford’s usually pretty damn good.

 

[WaveJumper]

What do you have against pond scum? Pond scum was my "bread and butter" for 10 years. I even wrote a book on identifying bugs from cast skins in Everglades pond scum. By the way, it's free to anyone interested in pond scum.

Don't mind me. I'm just enjoying being weird. One aspect of my weirdness is defending pond scum whenever the opportunity arises. Nothing beats the efficiency of sampling pond scum for detecting nutrient enrichment in Everglades marshes, but who cares when insulting that turd, Franchione.

Sorry, wasn't thinking and didn't mean to insult pond scum by comparing it to Franchione. Turd is much better!