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OT: Rutgers suspends Kyle Flood 3 games

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http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/kyle_flood_suspended_as_rutgers_coach.html

Key findings:
  • Flood met with the professor off-campus, and through subsequent emails, after he was told by a member of the academic support staff "that he is not to have contact with any faculty member regarding a student's academic standing."
  • When the faculty member agreed to "review an additional paper," Flood helped Barnwell by providing "grammatical and minor editorial suggestions to the submitted paper."
 
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http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/kyle_flood_suspended_as_rutgers_coach.html

Key findings:
  • Flood met with the professor off-campus, and through subsequent emails, after he was told by a member of the academic support staff "that he is not to have contact with any faculty member regarding a student's academic standing."
  • When the faculty member agreed to "review an additional paper," Flood helped Barnwell by providing "grammatical and minor editorial suggestions to the submitted paper."

Rarely do you see a coach suspended. The Rutgers program is really at a crossroad now. The athletic department has been rocked by scandals for the better part of the last 4 or 5 years. They need a zero tolerance approach to unacceptable behavior and a commitment to doing things the "right way".
 
Rarely do you see a coach suspended. The Rutgers program is really at a crossroad now. The athletic department has been rocked by scandals for the better part of the last 4 or 5 years. They need a zero tolerance approach to unacceptable behavior and a commitment to doing things the "right way".

In my opinion, the fact that he:

- Was told not to contact the professor again, but did so anyway, thus removing any doubt that he knew what he was doing was wrong
- Used his personal email so that he wouldn't get caught

Are fireable offenses. He can't claim ignorance - he was willfully insubordinate.
 
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In my opinion, the fact that he:

- Was told not to contact the professor again, but did so anyway, thus removing any doubt that he knew what he was doing was wrong
- Used his personal email so that he wouldn't get caught

Are fireable offenses. He can't claim ignorance - he was willfully subordinate.
Would seem that there is no way of him saving his job after that. They may use it to void contract like they did with Zook and not pay him
 
I will say, that in his defense after reading the whole report, he probably thought this was more a "bending of the rules" than a violating of them in contacting the professor. He didn't ask the professor to simply change the grade to make the student eligible, he asked if the professor would considering accepting the equivalent of extra credit to help earn a grade change (and made clear that if the professor wouldn't accept this he'd be okay with it). But as the professor said, given his position of high profile with the university, the professor felt intimidated into accepting such a thing so you can also see why this is a big no-no.

It was a major recruit, the guys feels pressure to win, and he wanted to help the student get a second chance academically.
 
Interesting... and Greg Schiano is coaching where right now? That''s right he's no where.... Time to pick up the telephone and say we forgive you for trying things with the Buccaneers.

 
Update: He wasn't suspended for 3 weeks. He was suspended for 3 games. He can still coach the team in preparing for the games, just not during the game itself.
 
In my opinion, the fact that he:

- Was told not to contact the professor again, but did so anyway, thus removing any doubt that he knew what he was doing was wrong
- Used his personal email so that he wouldn't get caught

Are fireable offenses. He can't claim ignorance - he was willfully subordinate.

INsubordinate.
 
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/kyle_flood_suspended_as_rutgers_coach.html

Key findings:
  • Flood met with the professor off-campus, and through subsequent emails, after he was told by a member of the academic support staff "that he is not to have contact with any faculty member regarding a student's academic standing."
  • When the faculty member agreed to "review an additional paper," Flood helped Barnwell by providing "grammatical and minor editorial suggestions to the submitted paper."
Rutgers has no business in the best college sports conference in America. What a terrible mistake.The only thing they lead the nation in is scandals involving their revenue sport head coaches.
 
Update: He wasn't suspended for 3 weeks. He was suspended for 3 games. He can still coach the team in preparing for the games, just not during the game itself.

That's just insane. You can bet he'll either be on a cell phone or texting someone either on the sidelines or in the press box during games. RU is a complete joke of an athletic department.
 
The Rutgers Football Program is officially in Free Fall.
 
The actual report is pretty hilarious. Don't bother with the whole thing, just start from the email Flood sends on page 7. He not only used personal email, but specifically stated that he was using personal email so that it wouldn't be a matter of public record:

http://president.rutgers.edu/sites/president/files/Final Report.pdf
Too bad he didn't first read that new book "How To Use Personal Email To Avoid Public Record And Get Away With It" by Hillary R Clinton.
 
Rutgers has no business in the best college sports conference in America. What a terrible mistake.The only thing they lead the nation in is scandals involving their revenue sport head coaches.
A guy like that, heading a program like that . . . . . how does Fitz even manage to shake his hand (and keep a straight face) after a game?
 
A guy like that, heading a program like that . . . . . how does Fitz even manage to shake his hand (and keep a straight face) after a game?

Doubt he'll get a chance to the way it's looking since we don't play them until 2018.
 
Very bad report in terms that the rules were very explicit, were a major consideration in the exercise of his responsibilities and yet he elected to try to work around. Certainly could have been fired. I look at this differently than most on this post, however. I think it demonstrates that the Rutgers administration does have integrity - although one could argue the severity of the punishment. Personally, I would give Flood the benefit of the doubt if in the totality of his work he has been a positive relative to recruiting character individuals, improving academics, etc., and chalk this up to a one time bad judgment. I hear that Flood has been a net positive but I don't have personal knowledge or an opinion.
 
Too bad he didn't first read that new book "How To Use Personal Email To Avoid Public Record And Get Away With It" by Hillary R Clinton.
Then he can read "How to Spend Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on a Wild Goose Chase to Damage a Political Opponent" by the Republican House Leadership.

And now we can delete these posts. I don't know how many times people have been told not to sully this board with political content. Go to the Rant Board to make your bad jokes.
 
That's just insane. You can bet he'll either be on a cell phone or texting someone either on the sidelines or in the press box during games. RU is a complete joke of an athletic department.

If he did that, he would almost surely be fired for blatantly breaking NCAA rules.
 
If he did that, he would almost surely be fired for blatantly breaking NCAA rules.

Only if the NCAA finds out. Rutgers is part of one of the most corrupt state government systems in the US. It probably only trails Rhode Island in corruption.
 
Only if the NCAA finds out. Rutgers is part of one of the most corrupt state government systems in the US. It probably only trails Rhode Island in corruption.

Pretty sure the NCAA is paying a lot of attention to this situation and it would be relatively obvious if someone on the sidelines was getting calls/texts from Flood during a game.
 
Pretty sure the NCAA is paying a lot of attention to this situation and it would be relatively obvious if someone on the sidelines was getting calls/texts from Flood during a game.

You realize the NCAA hasn't weighed in on this. The suspension was self-imposed by Rutgers. Right now, the almighty NCAA has no role in this.
 
Only if the NCAA finds out. Rutgers is part of one of the most corrupt state government systems in the US. It probably only trails Rhode Island in corruption.
Hey, I live in IL and we don't take a backseat to anyone as far as corruption is concerned.
 
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You realize the NCAA hasn't weighed in on this. The suspension was self-imposed by Rutgers. Right now, the almighty NCAA has no role in this.

If you don't think the NCAA is watching, you're fooling yourself. And blatantly breaking rules on the sidelines of a game would surely be grounds for a firing.
 
Then he can read "How to Spend Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on a Wild Goose Chase to Damage a Political Opponent" by the Republican House Leadership.

And now we can delete these posts. I don't know how many times people have been told not to sully this board with political content. Go to the Rant Board to make your bad jokes.
Oh c'mon. The analogy was relevant to the essence of the issue, timely and objectively humerous.

GOUNUII
 
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If you don't think the NCAA is watching, you're fooling yourself. And blatantly breaking rules on the sidelines of a game would surely be grounds for a firing.

NCAA needs to do something about North Carolina, where there was academic cheating for years, before they get their shorts in an uproar about Rutgers.
 
Translation: If you were a Republican like us, you'd see how hilarious and wise this is.
Good Grief. Not another politically hyper-sensitive poster. My comment was accurate and politically neutral. It just requires a sense of humor and a touch of well grounded humility to have recognized and appreciated the wit (not the wisdom) and thus the humor (hilarious it was not) of the author's missive.

You don't know my politics. Unfortunately, we now know yours, and this isn't the place for it. Take it to the Rant Board.

GOUNUII
 
Good Grief. Not another politically hyper-sensitive poster. My comment was accurate and politically neutral. It just requires a sense of humor and a touch of well grounded humility to have recognized and appreciated the wit (not the wisdom) and thus the humor (hilarious it was not) of the author's missive.

You don't know my politics. Unfortunately, we now know yours, and this isn't the place for it. Take it to the Rant Board.

GOUNUII
My comment was accurate and politically neutral.
Your comment was relevant, accurate, and politically neutral And anybody but a fool Democrat could see that. Republicans should post their rants on the football board, but all others on the rant board. (And we do indeed know your politics.)
 
Your comment was relevant, accurate, and politically neutral And anybody but a fool Democrat could see that. Republicans should post their rants on the football board, but all others on the rant board. (And we do indeed know your politics.)
And thus another lesson on why we leave politics for the Rant Board. Goodbye thread.
 
Rutgers has no business in the best college sports conference in America. What a terrible mistake.The only thing they lead the nation in is scandals involving their revenue sport head coaches.

You can blame Jim Delany's narcissism, greed and deception for that.

When are people going to wake up and figure out that he sold the entire conference (and especially the schools that actually care about integrity) right down the river?
 
Then he can read "How to Spend Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on a Wild Goose Chase to Damage a Political Opponent" by the Republican House Leadership.

And now we can delete these posts. I don't know how many times people have been told not to sully this board with political content. Go to the Rant Board to make your bad jokes.
Testy, testy..


Are you on Hillary's payroll or something?
 
Then he can read "How to Spend Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on a Wild Goose Chase to Damage a Political Opponent" by the Republican House Leadership.

And now we can delete these posts. I don't know how many times people have been told not to sully this board with political content. Go to the Rant Board to make your bad jokes.
Don't you think if you had meant what you wrote in the second paragraph, you wouldn't have written the first? Beautiful job of defending the rules while breaking them at the same time. You should go into politics.
 
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