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Pac 16 vs. Big 12(16)

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There will be consolidation between these two leagues following USC and UCLA leaving the Pac 12. The Pac 12 will likely remain and the Big 12 will likely cease to exist as a top tier conference.

The Pac 12 will likely pick up Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, with some combination of 2 from BYU/KU/KSU/TCU. I expect that KSU and BYU will join along with Baylor, TTU, OkSU and ISU, though TCU could replace BYU. KU is literally so bad at football that it will likely end up in a basketball conference regardless of what happens with the remnants of the Big 12, possibly the Big East.

The alternative reverse scenario would include Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah leaving the Pac, effectively dissolving it. This seems unlikely. There is enough of a center of gravity surrounding Stanford, Washington, and Oregon (far more than KU, for example) to allow the Pac to simply dissolve. It is far more likely that the remaining Texas schools sans TCU, OkSU and a handful of others will be going west.

The big losers in this round will likely include West Virginia for now, unless the ACC throws it an immediate lifeline during its own inevitable evolution to 16 teams (perhaps along with USF, Navy or Memphis), and whoever is left out among BYU/KU/KSU/TCU (likely KU and TCU). BYU might emerge as a big winner in this round, regaining an in-conference rivalry with Utah and significantly elevating its athletics profile. The Big 12, or what is left of it, will fall to the level of a "Group of 5" conference. It probably will pick up 6 teams from some combination of South Florida, Colorado State, Boise State, Air Force, Fresno State, Nevada, Memphis, Army, Navy, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU and Louisiana Tech. I expect that the new "Group of 5" Big 12 will feature USF, CSU, Memphis, Navy, Air Force and Army, and perhaps Fresno or Boise if the ACC adds USF or Memphis.

The MAC will likely emerge winners too, picking up MTSU and WKU, along with two other teams that did not make it into the Big 12. The dissolution of Conference USA will mean that the remaining teams will consolidate with the American and Mountain West Conferences.
 
There will be consolidation between these two leagues following USC and UCLA leaving the Pac 12. The Pac 12 will likely remain and the Big 12 will likely cease to exist as a top tier conference.

The Pac 12 will likely pick up Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, with some combination of 2 from BYU/KU/KSU/TCU. I expect that KSU and BYU will join along with Baylor, TTU, OkSU and ISU, though TCU could replace BYU. KU is literally so bad at football that it will likely end up in a basketball conference regardless of what happens with the remnants of the Big 12, possibly the Big East.

The alternative reverse scenario would include Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah leaving the Pac, effectively dissolving it. This seems unlikely. There is enough of a center of gravity surrounding Stanford, Washington, and Oregon (far more than KU, for example) to allow the Pac to simply dissolve. It is far more likely that the remaining Texas schools sans TCU, OkSU and a handful of others will be going west.

The big losers in this round will likely include West Virginia for now, unless the ACC throws it an immediate lifeline during its own inevitable evolution to 16 teams (perhaps along with USF, Navy or Memphis), and whoever is left out among BYU/KU/KSU/TCU (likely KU and TCU). BYU might emerge as a big winner in this round, regaining an in-conference rivalry with Utah and significantly elevating its athletics profile. The Big 12, or what is left of it, will fall to the level of a "Group of 5" conference. It probably will pick up 6 teams from some combination of South Florida, Colorado State, Boise State, Air Force, Fresno State, Nevada, Memphis, Army, Navy, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU and Louisiana Tech. I expect that the new "Group of 5" Big 12 will feature USF, CSU, Memphis, Navy, Air Force and Army, and perhaps Fresno or Boise if the ACC adds USF or Memphis.

The MAC will likely emerge winners too, picking up MTSU and WKU, along with two other teams that did not make it into the Big 12. The dissolution of Conference USA will mean that the remaining teams will consolidate with the American and Mountain West Conferences.

Can you post this on the Rock as well? Thx
 
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Yeah, the people who think the B12 is in a stronger position than the PAC are cuckoo.

The best sports program in the B12 will be Kansas BB (same thing goes for all the people who thought the B1G should take KU - lol).
 
Yeah, the people who think the B12 is in a stronger position than the PAC are cuckoo.

The best sports program in the B12 will be Kansas BB (same thing goes for all the people who thought the B1G should take KU - lol).
IDK. It's never been about the "best sports programs". It's always been about the $. And the $ doesn't seem like it's in the PAC's favor.

The PAC leadership is abysmal as well, so a little skeptical that they will be able to hold the conference together, but I've been wrong before.
 
So do we end up with and BIG10 East and West with 8 teams, or are there lots more shoes dropping where you end up at 20 or 24?
 
There will be consolidation between these two leagues following USC and UCLA leaving the Pac 12. The Pac 12 will likely remain and the Big 12 will likely cease to exist as a top tier conference.

The Pac 12 will likely pick up Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, with some combination of 2 from BYU/KU/KSU/TCU. I expect that KSU and BYU will join along with Baylor, TTU, OkSU and ISU, though TCU could replace BYU. KU is literally so bad at football that it will likely end up in a basketball conference regardless of what happens with the remnants of the Big 12, possibly the Big East.

The alternative reverse scenario would include Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah leaving the Pac, effectively dissolving it. This seems unlikely. There is enough of a center of gravity surrounding Stanford, Washington, and Oregon (far more than KU, for example) to allow the Pac to simply dissolve. It is far more likely that the remaining Texas schools sans TCU, OkSU and a handful of others will be going west.

The big losers in this round will likely include West Virginia for now, unless the ACC throws it an immediate lifeline during its own inevitable evolution to 16 teams (perhaps along with USF, Navy or Memphis), and whoever is left out among BYU/KU/KSU/TCU (likely KU and TCU). BYU might emerge as a big winner in this round, regaining an in-conference rivalry with Utah and significantly elevating its athletics profile. The Big 12, or what is left of it, will fall to the level of a "Group of 5" conference. It probably will pick up 6 teams from some combination of South Florida, Colorado State, Boise State, Air Force, Fresno State, Nevada, Memphis, Army, Navy, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU and Louisiana Tech. I expect that the new "Group of 5" Big 12 will feature USF, CSU, Memphis, Navy, Air Force and Army, and perhaps Fresno or Boise if the ACC adds USF or Memphis.

The MAC will likely emerge winners too, picking up MTSU and WKU, along with two other teams that did not make it into the Big 12. The dissolution of Conference USA will mean that the remaining teams will consolidate with the American and Mountain West Conferences.
Sunbelt is stronger than the MAC and more likely to get WKU and MTSU, in my uneducated opinion.
 
So do we end up with and BIG10 East and West with 8 teams, or are there lots more shoes dropping where you end up at 20 or 24?
Depending on where this goes, I’d be fine if the Cats got a new protected rival in Washington (Cats and Dogs, something about purple), and Illinois getting Oregon (the IlliDuck). That is all.

Everything we knew about college sports is weird and done and it’s a new era and I’m here for it.

It would be really cool for UCLA and USC to battle the Midwest while Kansas State joins Pacific (#) conference, reminiscent of the (now-closed) Oceanside Lounge in Davenport, Iowa.
 
So do we end up with and BIG10 East and West with 8 teams, or are there lots more shoes dropping where you end up at 20 or 24?
The top PAC 12 teams will be going somewhere, and soon. BIG10 might otherwise be happy with where they are, but they themselves have made the iron hot. Time to strike and take the ones you want is very soon, if not now.
 
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