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Pardon will be the crucial bridge between Class of ‘14 and ‘18

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He was simply incredible tonight. He is going to lose a lot of the guys around him next year (3 of 5 starters in BMac, Scottie and Gavin) but he is going to be the steadying force on this team. Even more than Vic.

He is going to have to be the rock and the team leader as Lathon, Kopp and Nance acclimate to the college game. It’s a lot to put on his shoulders, but he’s shown he’s up for it. He’s “brought it” every game this season, which I’m not sure you can say about anyone else.
 
He was simply incredible tonight. He is going to lose a lot of the guys around him next year (3 of 5 starters in BMac, Scottie and Gavin) but he is going to be the steadying force on this team. Even more than Vic.

He is going to have to be the rock and the team leader as Lathon, Kopp and Nance acclimate to the college game. It’s a lot to put on his shoulders, but he’s shown he’s up for it. He’s “brought it” every game this season, which I’m not sure you can say about anyone else.
Our MVP this season.
 
He was simply incredible tonight. He is going to lose a lot of the guys around him next year (3 of 5 starters in BMac, Scottie and Gavin) but he is going to be the steadying force on this team. Even more than Vic.

He is going to have to be the rock and the team leader as Lathon, Kopp and Nance acclimate to the college game. It’s a lot to put on his shoulders, but he’s shown he’s up for it. He’s “brought it” every game this season, which I’m not sure you can say about anyone else.
We will be much better next year!
 
We will be quicker next year. Hopefully Lathon comes in and is able to run the offense and drive effectively to the basket and Turner, Kopp, Falzon can drain 3’s at a good %. I suspect Nance will come in and play a lot of minutes right away. I’m concerned about our back up point guard but maybe Turner can play the point a bit
 
He was simply incredible tonight. He is going to lose a lot of the guys around him next year (3 of 5 starters in BMac, Scottie and Gavin) but he is going to be the steadying force on this team. Even more than Vic.

He is going to have to be the rock and the team leader as Lathon, Kopp and Nance acclimate to the college game. It’s a lot to put on his shoulders, but he’s shown he’s up for it. He’s “brought it” every game this season, which I’m not sure you can say about anyone else.
Just looked at box score... he only had 4 rebounds and 3 blocks?? It seemed like about 8 rebounds and 4-5 blocks. I guess he just made some big plays on defense in key moments. And the 8-8 from the floor was pretty huge - that baby hook was working nicely last night. And a hugely underrated piece of it -- playing 38 minutes, guarding Happ for most of those, 3 (or more) blocks and only 1 foul? That's pretty incredible. As much as he's developed on offense, he's developed just as much on D in his ability to play clean position defense and make plays without throwing his arms around and taking fouls.

Also, slightly different topic but Gavin had one of his better games. Still accumulated 4 fouls, but I thought generally played smarter and more disciplined on D than he usually does. Avoided getting baited into a couple pump fakes by Davison and others, which resulted in them taking forced bad shots because of his disciplined D, and in one case a shot-clock violation. He also played smart on offense - only 1 turnover, 3-4 from FG w/ 1 three, 5 rebs 2 steals 1 assist.

Great job from our starting bigs tonight. And if you throw Vic into the mix our overall frontcourt was great too - he had 9 pts on 4-7, 1-1 from 3, 8 rebs, 2 assists, 1 steal 1 block.

Combined across all 3: 15-19 FG, 2-3 from 3, 34 pts (out of 60 total), 17 rebs, 4 blocks, 3 steals, only 2 TO. (FTs just 2-4 but oh well)
 
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Agreed on Skelly. One of his better games, and absolutely terrific defense on some key possessions. (One or two of the foul calls against him were missed calls.) His play was critical last night.

Pardon was (is) terrific. Thank god both he and Law return next year. Throw in Turner, and we’ll have three players with a lot of college experience to form the core. Am not feeling quite as pessimistic today about next season.
 
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We will be quicker next year. Hopefully Lathon comes in and is able to run the offense and drive effectively to the basket and Turner, Kopp, Falzon can drain 3’s at a good %. I suspect Nance will come in and play a lot of minutes right away. I’m concerned about our back up point guard but maybe Turner can play the point a bit
Thought the consensus was that Nance may need some time to bulk the body up, but the potential is there. I think we'll see alot more of Kopp as a freshman. Obviously Lathon too.
 
Agreed on Skelly. One of his better games, and absolutely terrific defense on some key possessions. (One or two of the foul calls against him were missed calls.) His play was critical last night.

Pardon was (is) terrific. Thank god both he and Law return next year. Throw in Turner, and we’ll have three players with a lot of college experience to form the core. Am not feeling quite as pessimistic today about next season.
Agree that was likely Skelly's best overall game. Also agree some of his fouls were pretty ticky tacky and he got fouled big time on a shot attempt in the second half, as was pointed out by the talking heads on TV.
 
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Thought the consensus was that Nance may need some time to bulk the body up, but the potential is there. I think we'll see alot more of Kopp as a freshman. Obviously Lathon too.
There is no way to know what a freshman is going to do until they show up and play. That said, I like that we'll have two double-digit scorers returning, and Turner who certainly has potential to be a third.

I think Pardon leads NU in scoring next year, though I wish it would be Vic. As I wrote early in the year, I want Vic to want to average 20ppg, but I don't think that's in his genes.

NU loses about 30 ppg between Mc, Lindsey, and Skelly. Turner will make up about 10, and perhaps Pardon and Vic are possibly good for two or three more apiece. (These numbers are probably all optimistic.)

That's about 15 then that needs to come from some combination of Kopp/Lathon/Nance, plus development from Gaines/Falzon, the two guys I expect to grow the most. It's not infeasible.
 
Agree that was likely Skelly's best overall game. Also agree some of his fouls were pretty ticky tacky and he got fouled big time on a shot attempt in the second half, as was pointed out by the talking heads on TV.
Oh yeah that one where he got slapped across the arm was ridiculous.

I think unfortunately, for the conference officials, players get reputations on certain things. Dererk didn't get the benefit of the doubt for a while bc early on he used his arms too much. Now he usually does. Scottie didn't move his feet early on so got dinged for multiple years every time he was a bit slow, more so than others (e.g. BMac or Vic). Brown I think developed a reputation early on as someone who jumps into contact, and so he very rarely draws foul calls even when merited. Gaines also is going through the B1G ref hazing with some of his calls, I think he plays decent D but needs to prove it first. Meanwhile Melo seemed to get every call over the years when he was driving due to his obnoxious Harden-like head movements.

Anyways... Skelly is still sort of on the wrong side of that reputation on defense, though if he has more games like last night's then hopefully that will change. Wish they would just call it even though and not differ player by player.
 
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