Credit to Ella Brockaway for re-tweeting this. Looks like Pat Spencer is playing professionally in Germany.
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I thought there was a pro lacrosse league. It must be really pathetic if the #1 player in the country at one point doesn't join in.Credit to Ella Brockaway for re-tweeting this. Looks like Pat Spencer is playing professionally in Germany.
CoolCredit to Ella Brockaway for re-tweeting this. Looks like Pat Spencer is playing professionally in Germany.
Is it different than Charlie Ward playing in the NBA rather than the NFL? Spencer can almost certainly make better money as a professional basketball player.I thought there was a pro lacrosse league. It must be really pathetic if the #1 player in the country at one point doesn't join in.
Heck of a lot less abuse to his body as well. Charlie and Pat made good choices......Is it different than Charlie Ward playing in the NBA rather than the NFL? Spencer can almost certainly make better money as a professional basketball player.
My son lasted 3 years in the MLL. He was one of the highest paid players at the time, at about $500/game. Endorsements were a bigger source of income. The MLL was brutally physical. His back still has scars from getting slashed by 6' D poles. The lack of practice and long bus rides sapped his love of playingI thought there was a pro lacrosse league. It must be really pathetic if the #1 player in the country at one point doesn't join in.
Heck of a lot less abuse to his body as well. Charlie and Pat made good choices......
My son lasted 3 years in the MLL. He was one of the highest paid players at the time, at about $500/game. Endorsements were a bigger source of income. The MLL was brutally physical. His back still has scars from getting slashed by 6' D poles. The lack of practice and long bus rides sapped his love of playing
The MLL merged with the better funded upstart PLL . Salaries are much higher now but attendance still has not kept pace of the rising popularity of the sport. The attendance at the Final Four peaked about 15 years ago with about 50,000 fans attending a weekend festival. Greater TV exposure evidently hurt attendance of the NCAA tournament but much like hockey , following the "ball" takes experienced camera crews and now with ESPN's limited budget and lack of onsite commentators , even the TV experience is not as good as it has been
Lacrosse combines all the aspects of sport that Americans like-contact, scoring, eye to hand coordination, and athleticism but has not flourished professionally.
NCAA allow 12.6 scholarships for about a 40 man squadA cursory look at a few lacrosse rosters (men & women) show a lot of names, it seems. How many scholarships are allowable to a team? (I assume the limit requires most players to be on partial scholarships at best.)
Thanks, Doc. ThAt's the same for men & women's teams?Lacrosse is allowed 12.6 scholarships, so full scholarships are extremely rare
NCAA allow 12.6 scholarships for about a 40 man squad
My son lasted 3 years in the MLL. He was one of the highest paid players at the time, at about $500/game. Endorsements were a bigger source of income. The MLL was brutally physical. His back still has scars from getting slashed by 6' D poles. The lack of practice and long bus rides sapped his love of playing
The MLL merged with the better funded upstart PLL . Salaries are much higher now but attendance still has not kept pace of the rising popularity of the sport. The attendance at the Final Four peaked about 15 years ago with about 50,000 fans attending a weekend festival. Greater TV exposure evidently hurt attendance of the NCAA tournament but much like hockey , following the "ball" takes experienced camera crews and now with ESPN's limited budget and lack of onsite commentators , even the TV experience is not as good as it has been
Lacrosse combines all the aspects of sport that Americans like-contact, scoring, eye to hand coordination, and athleticism but has not flourished professionally.
Pardon and Bayreuth beat Spenser and Hamburg tonight. Strong game by Derek- 27 mins, 11 puts., 13 rebounds. Spenser only played 10 mins and had 3 points.Great that he’s getting a chance so late in the season. Should set him up for a better contract next year. And he goes up against Derek Pardon’s team -Bayreuth- on April 29.
Women’s is 12.0 I believe. Men’s 12.6.Thanks, Doc. ThAt's the same for men & women's teams?
What about in the Ivy League?Lacrosse is allowed 12.6 scholarships, so full scholarships are extremely rare
NCAA allow 12.6 scholarships for about a 40 man squad
So hypothetically, they could give more than 12.6 scholarships, based on need?The Ivys have admission slots for their athletic teams, scholarships based on need, and no athletic scholarships
So can NU or any school giving athletic scholarships, I would think.So hypothetically, they could give more than 12.6 scholarships, based on need?
I like both those guys ! CongratulationsPardon and Bayreuth beat Spenser and Hamburg tonight. Strong game by Derek- 27 mins, 11 puts., 13 rebounds. Spenser only played 10 mins and had 3 points.
So can NU or any school giving athletic scholarships, I would think.
Care to share the summary of your analysis, if not the game-by-game stats?Went through every stat sheet of games Spencer played in. It did not look good.
Starting your international career in the Germany D1 is not the best strategy for players that are not clear stars. Most (good) agents will tell their clients this. And most clients won't listen.
The path for a guy like Spencer is more playing in Belgium/Netherlands/Kosovo/Portugal or something like that. Stack up some numbers and experience playing against grown ass men. And, hopefully, move on to more demanding and significantly better paying leagues.
While you give up money to start off with, the paying is actually pitiful and equates to playing for free in the minors, it is often the way to avoid playing for a year or two and see your career shut down because you could never show decent numbers.
I could not find player stats. Did not look that hard, probably can be found. So I looked at the box score of the Hamburg team. You can find them here:Care to share the summary of your analysis, if not the game-by-game stats?
His minutes were low in a few games but he started close to half of them. His shooting percentage was pretty good. Given that it's his second year of competitive hoops, his performance was decent.
UPDATED WITH TOTAL STATS OVER 8 GAMES:
19-33 (2pt FG%)
3-10 (3pt FG%)
9-12 (FT %)
24 rebounds (3.0/gm)
9 assists (1.1/gm)
56 points (7.0/gm)