Pulling for YOUR conference vs Oregon?
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You're going to be rooting for me winning money? You're so sweet!!!
I have no truck with the Spartans, so yes, I'll be rooting for them.
Plus, I am rooting for Shakes to lose money.
I am a "yes." First, I have no problem with how MSU has built their program and think that Dantonio is doing things the right way. Second, I am on the side of believing that significant conference victories early in the season help all of the conference teams get better rankings and higher profiles.
An msu loss or any loss by a conference member in a non-conference game is a plus for NU.[/QUOTE][QUOTE="12375CAT, post: 82173, member:
You are making the assumption that NU can only win a bad big ten. Look at 1995. It was one of the best big tens in history. Every game was huge. Granted we ducked OSU and their loss to Michigan/Tishamonga Biakabiutuka put us in the rose bowl. I feel that NU plays up to teams and drops stupid games to anyone. You can give NU a 50% chance to win 90% of games. How many heads can you flip in a row..
While I hope lots of big ten teams are bad and I'm ok with winning a bad big ten, we don't play MSU unless we're both in the conference title game. If we are playing MSU in the title game, WE'RE IN THE TITLE GAME, and we're not playing OSU which is probably the dream of all dreams. I'll role with my chances there
You are making the assumption that NU can only win a bad big ten. Look at 1995. It was one of the best big tens in history. Every game was huge. Granted we ducked OSU and their loss to Michigan/Tishamonga Biakabiutuka put us in the rose bowl. I feel that NU plays up to teams and drops stupid games to anyone. You can give NU a 50% chance to win 90% of games. How many heads can you flip in a row..
While I hope lots of big ten teams are bad and I'm ok with winning a bad big ten, we don't play MSU unless we're both in the conference title game. If we are playing MSU in the title game, WE'RE IN THE TITLE GAME, and we're not playing OSU which is probably the dream of all dreams. I'll role with my chances there[/QUOTE]
I'd rather beat osu
Not if the 'Cats want to make it to the CFP one of these days.
The 'Cats winning a perceived down B1G will likely have them on the outside looking in, whereas a B1G that is seen at least on par with a couple of the other P5 conferences would mean a higher chance in getting one of those 4 spots.
Should be an interesting game as both young secondaries were a bit exposed last week by seasoned QBs.
Here's an interesting take on MSU's prep for Oregon.
As a brief recap: The Spartans led the Ducks 27–18 well into the third quarter on Sept. 7, 2014, an advantage built on limiting the hosts to 14 rushing yards in the first half. Then Oregon exploded to score the last 28 points of the game. The autopsy results that Michigan State is willing to make public? An accumulation of missed blocks, incorrect lanes and imperfect passes on offense, and a breakdown of defensive cohesion after Oregon trotted out unfamiliar schemes and formations. “There were a lot of communication issues at that time that I don’t think we were ready for,” safety R.J. Williamson says.
Readiness was one operating premise of all the days between the end of last season and this weekend in East Lansing. While a Northwestern or Indiana may run tempo offense out of a spread, they very clearly do not do it with the hyperdrive efficiency of an Oregon or a Baylor. Never had Michigan State’s defense encountered that kind of velocity, or really even a reasonable facsimile of it, before the visit to Eugene last September.
The Spartans felt they were prepared, but the second-half slouch showed they were not prepared enough. Failed execution on a screen pass, a blown coverage leading to a receiver open by tens of yards, a whiff on a surefire sack—these are all symptomatic of the Oregon Effect, in which the body falters first and the mind follows not long after.
To adjust preparation for Oregon in 2015, Michigan State essentially began with Baylor in 2014 and its plan for the Bears in the Cotton Bowl. “When we went against Baylor, our practice plan was much more competitive and built around that scheme they like to run,” Williamson says. “We were ready for that tempo.”
Coaches simulated the challenge by exaggerating it in bowl preparation and well into practices for this fall. Scout team offenses ran plays two to five seconds apart. Sometimes the defense saw multiple offensive huddles sent its way; after one play at one hash mark, the entire defense darted to the other hash, where another 11 offensive players were waiting and ready to snap the ball.
http://www.si.com/college-football/...tate-spartans-oregon-ducks-week-2-walkthrough
I definitely am pulling for MSU. I really don't care for the thinking that you must root for the conference thing. I just want MSU undefeated when they come to Columbus. Go Sparty!
NO. A msu loss or any loss by a conference member in a non-conference game is a plus for NU.[/QUOTE][QUOTE="12375CAT, post: 82173, member:
Why?
One of the reasons Baylor didn't make the playoffs last year was its weak schedule, especially OOC. If the conference has to be bad for us to win games in it, maybe we'd better find another conference.
Rooting for the Spartans to beat NIKE U. I root for all BIG teams in nonconference except Illinos. But they don't need me to root for them with the weak non-con schedule they always play!
Why?[/QUOTE]
Well. let's say if Minny, Io-a or UNL lose a couple of non-conference games and end up with one less win then NU, then I would guess that the Wildcats get picked over them for a bowl bid or get a better bowl assignment. In a related issue, I doubt very much that having winning programs in our conference affects recruiting and in fact having other programs with better records hurts NU's recruiting.
Baylor and TCU didn't get in because the playoff committee wanted the biggest name and most eyeballs so the playoff would be dubbed a success. OSU sells more than Baylor. Bottom line we only have 1 way into the playoff. We need to run the table. Otherwise, we're out. Who's going to be in the playoff a 1 loss NU or 2 loss SEC team? It'll go SEC. While we can hate that, that's the hand we're dealt.
So I guess there's only 1 thing left to do... Win the whole f..... thing
OK...I give up...
What is the connection of the KSU wildcats and the B12 to this thread (and the board)?
KSU is playing UTSA today, and don't even seem to have a B1G team in their regular season schedule this year.
They are Purple Wildcats. He likes posting here. Can we all agree that KSU and NU have a weak connection to each other based on color and nickname.
(MR if he can't agree to that you have no chance at climbing Everest)
Yeah, this and Baylor's weak schedule, which was constantly brought up by commentators at the time. I watched WVU dominate TCU most of the game in Morgantown last year. Coach basically blew that game. This storyline about how OSU didn't belong in the playoffs last year is weak, and I'm certainly no fan of Ohio State. Baylor couldn't beat Michigan State, so why would they have been more worthy.
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NU is routinely bypassed in bowl selection for teams with one less loss and bigger fan bases.
I would rather the B1G continues to establish itself as a conference nationally. That will help recruiting as well.
