Ramon Diaz
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Came out to the tribune with cries of how negatively the program affected him that he was too traumatized to even watch football. But forgot to delete his tweets when he decided to come up with this new story...
It’s horrendous journalism. Anyone who has run anything relating to Ramon Diaz in the last couple of days is a joke and it makes you question the validity of their anonymous sources. And to be clear, this is not saying the other sources aren’t talking about real things that happened. Cause I think a lot of this stuff is true to a degree. But Ramon Diaz? Really? The guy who said he was diagnosed with PTSD due to NU football, couldn’t watch football for five years after playing at NU, and still goes to therapy due to what he experienced…but also has had SEVERAL posts on HIS OWN social media within the last five years talking about how great the NU program is and how much Fitz effected his life in a positive way. Talked about how great the NU culture is and how he loves participating in events with the program.
Yep, what a great source who deserves a national platform. What’s even funnier is that all these journalists love to pat each other on the back for “great journalism” (the amount of times I’ve heard that in the last few days about different reporters related to this is through the roof). They just love to tell each other how great they are…yet they can’t even execute simple journalism 101 and properly vet a source that includes a 30-second Google search.
Can’t wait until the Pullitzer is awarded. Cause it will be. You can bet on it.
Mental & emotional health are incredibly complicated.
I didn’t watch the video with Diaz. But his claims in the Daily have merit, and our program clearly has major issues.
Buckle up. This will be a bumpy ride.
Fair that mental and emotional health are complicated. Zero argument and not something to joke about.
But help me understand how a guy whose experience was THAT bad (PTSD, couldn’t watch football for five years cause his experience was so bad, etc.) also has such wonderful things to say specifically about the NU football program, culture, and coach Fitzgerald. I mean, these are his words on his own social media platforms. He’s not backed into a corner to say anything. He’s making a decision to put that stuff out there.
Sorry, but those two things can’t coexist in my world.
I can only hope that Diaz and the two anonymous black players had no impact on the firing decision. Totally unrelated.
Probably because he’s an opportunist that decided to pile on and saw the opportunity to get some publicity for himself. I don’t think it’s that complicated. People are people… humans are nothing if not self interested (well that’s a slight exaggeration but you get the idea)
I can tell you all that in my life I have concluded I have had a fair amount of instances of people being racist towards me. And for many years I found explanations for the odd behaviors elsewhere, other than in racism.
So, for me, and not saying there are no other dynamics at play here, if a dude like Ramon talks, I listen.
So, for me, and not saying there are no other dynamics at play here, if a dude like Ramon talks, I listen.
That's totally fair. And I realize that with my stance on this I come off like a total insensitive prick. And that bothers me - I was actually talking to my wife about it last night. I do not like questioning someone who is saying they have experienced things like this.
I think my main point here is that I am not saying Ramon didn't experience these things. That would be unfair to him and I don't have any knowledge of it, so I am not in a position to say that. What I am saying is that I question his credibility in this story. He's gone out of his way on his own platforms talking about how much he appreciates the NU football program, culture, and Pat Fitzgerald. And for me, saying that kind of stuff on his own will, then also saying he had PTSD from NU football and has other serious issues related to his experience, makes me question his credibility. If I was a journalist, I don't know if I would be able to use him as a source. Something is off there and the two vastly different things he is saying make it harder to believe.
And to be clear, this is independent of everything else. I am in no way saying this whole thing is a hit job and none of this stuff happened or anything like that. It's clear a lot of this stuff that has come out was happening in the NU program. To the degree it was happening is a little more unclear, but I don't think anyone can argue it wasn't going on. It's just Ramon being used as a reliable source that bothers me some.
This is fair. And something that, despite being almost 50 yo, I have only really matured on over the last 10 years. I don't dismiss anyone's claims of trauma. Often, even if the claims end up being bullshit to me, there is still a chance the person claiming them feels them deeply.
I find racism far more abhorrent than hazing. Because it tends to be recurrent and permanent, like a disease that is not curable. While hazing is limited in time. And yet I do not see the reports of 2009 racism as nearly as problematic as the hazing in the program. Maybe I am getting to be an old man, but different times. Or what folks here call context. It was 14 years ago. We have evolved a lot in understanding racism, even in the cultural wars environment we live in. And there are signs we have taken steps to get better in the program. I wish the claims or racism did not exist. But they do, and we should listen to them. Not to punish, but to get better.
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I'm willing to say he DID encounter it. However the impact it had on him per the interview is at odds with the tweet praising Fitz and the program. Opposite ends of the spectrum.
Sure he encountered it but I’ve got news for them, racism exists in the world and NU is going to have its share of racist just any other organization out there. I do know that FItz is not racist and he doesn’t condone racism. I also know if Diaz experienced something that bothered him, he should spoken up then. How can FItz do anything about it if he doesn’t know about the issue? The expectation that he shouldn’t have been exposed to any racism while at NU is unrealistic and reflective of a generation unable to deal with any adversity.
I know that he owns a house in Northfield.
This made me legitimately laugh out loud Villox. Thanks for that one.
First thing my wife did upon hearing of this scandal was send me the zillow link of the place. 10,000 sq ft. Not too shabby.
Of course not. Just a consequence of my wife's instincts on what she's interested in. Kind of like how she likes reality TV and I find it abhorrent.
I thought about posting on here yesterday that there was a mansion in Northfield about to hit the market, but I figured it was too soon and didn't pull the trigger.😅
