The 200 thread

[IGNORE2]

Assuming no preseason injuries, what do you guys see for the 200? I ask and the threads get hijacked - so I make this the single topic (until hijacked by the usual suspects)

I'm going 9 man deep:
Starting Gs (because I like consistent bmac w spotty Lindsey a lot more than unknown Vasser w spotty Lindsey):
Bmac - 30 mpg
Lindsey (w time at the 3) - 25 mpg

Forwards:
Law - 30 mpg
vZ - 25 mpg

Olah - 30 mpg

Plus
Demps - 30 mpg
Vasser - 8 mpg
Tap - 11 mpg
Skelly - 11 mpg

I also see shorter leashes, especially for the backups. If Vasser doesn't perform, Ash steps in and bMac and Demps share PG. Falzon keeps Tap honest, Lump and Pardon keep the pressure on vZ.

How do you see the 200 go?

 

[NUCat320]

I'll play.

Starters:
Mac
Demps
Law
JVZ
Olah

PG: Mac 33, Demps 7
2G: Demps 23, Ash 10, Lindsey 7
SF: Law 25, Lindsey 10, Tap 5
PF: JVZ 20, Falzon 15, Law or Lumpkin or Tap 5
C Olah 28, JVZ 8, Pardon 4

This is all highly variable. Standard deviations not shown.
Skelly will play.
Pardon will play.
I don't see much of a spot for Vasser because I don't see many minutes available for a point guard.

Taphorn will have games where he plays 25 minutes and games where he plays next to nothing.
Same with Lindsey and Law and Ash.

They'll be good.

 

[Deeringfish]

Under your formula, Vasser has left the building?

 

[PURPLECAT88]

This is a fun idea, but it's way too early for me to predict the 200. I haven't seen JVZ or any of the incoming freshmen play yet. I will say that except in a rare case like Wisconsin where everyone comes back from a top-level team, nearly every major program has freshmen getting big minutes. As well as we've played over the last 3-4 weeks, NU is still a 10th place team. No one's minutes should be safe from a talented freshman.

 

[Evanstonian]

Pardon is a center.

 

[IGNORE2]

No Skelly?

 

[IGNORE2]

Originally posted by Evanstonian:
Pardon is a center.

Maybe. Sometimes.

vZ is a 4. But I think everyone envisions scenarios with vZ as the biggest guy on the floor. And at his size, seeing Pardon and an Olah sized player on the floor together does not seem unreasonable. So I think Pardon steps in for vZ or Skelly in the rotation in the event of injury or failure.

 

[IGNORE2]

Originally posted by PURPLECAT88:
This is a fun idea, but it's way too early for me to predict the 200. I haven't seen JVZ or any of the incoming freshmen play yet. I will say that except in a rare case like Wisconsin where everyone comes back from a top-level team, nearly every major program has freshmen getting big minutes. As well as we've played over the last 3-4 weeks, NU is still a 10th place team. No one's minutes should be safe from a talented freshman.

Very true but we have 7 guys pretty set in stone to begin the year:

bmac, lindsey, skelly and law are this year's very talented freshmen
demps and olah are safe absent injury
vZ seems to have been assured PT (at least in the beginning)

But if an coming guys actually earns PT based on performance in practice, not HS resume, then we see them...and that would be fantastic news.

 

[backdoorpass]

I have an issue with the premise of this thread. There are not 200 minutes to be divided up. There are 6500+ minutes before you even get out of the Big Ten Tournament.

Guys will get hurt. Guys will get the flu. Guys will go through slumps. Guys will come on strong for periods of the season. Some freshmen get better and better as the season goes along. Some freshmen hit a wall in February. Games go into overtime. Guys foul out.

9 deep might be right in any given game... But we'll probably go 9-10 deep with 13 different guys throughout the season.



This post was edited on 3/12 5:31 AM by backdoorpass

 

[NUThump]

I remembered this thread and wanted to see how the predictions matched early season minutes. This was before the departure of Vasser, the Law injury, and Pardon red shirting. A lot of change, certainly.

I think Mac, Demps, Olah, and Lumpkin will all get steady minutes they have seen in the first seven games. The rest will likely have big swings each game depending on who has the hot hand. I would like to see more of Ash. Olah is good enough to average more than six shots a game and Ash is one of the few, IMHO, that can make solid entry passes into the post.

 

[IGNORE2]

I remembered this thread and wanted to see how the predictions matched early season minutes. This was before the departure of Vasser, the Law injury, and Pardon red shirting. A lot of change, certainly.

I think Mac, Demps, Olah, and Lumpkin will all get steady minutes they have seen in the first seven games. The rest will likely have big swings each game depending on who has the hot hand. I would like to see more of Ash. Olah is good enough to average more than six shots a game and Ash is one of the few, IMHO, that can make solid entry passes into the post.

Nice pull. I want to revise for start of conference play:
Mac, Demps, lump, Falzon, olah

Avg minutes:
Mac 30
Demps 30
Lindsey 25
Ash 10
Lump 20
Tap 5
Falzon 20
Skelly 20
Olah 20
vZ 20

No chance it breaks that way thought. If Skelly keeps showing up, he has to get minutes - especially while Falzon is finding his game. Unless Olah picks it up, then I think he splits with vZ - a clear demotion. Please let my Lindsey prediction play out - it means some time at the 2 and the 3 and he has earned = progressed. I think we will need lump's d more than tap's O.