The top overachieving and underachieving programs over the past 4 seasons
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Actually it means that Rutgers underachieved what they were recruiting. The way they get off the list of underachieving is not by him recruiting better but by them winning more games. And with him recruiting better than they had, that means even more wins required to get off the list
^ Um, that was with the previous regimes - Ash and Campanile.
Don't think Schiano will have the same issue; bringing in even better talent + better coaching staff will equal more wins.
In a truncated season, Schiano already got as many wins as RU had for the 2018 and 2919 seasons combined.
With a couple of more recruiting classes under his belt, expect Schiano to have RU challenging PSU, IU and UM for the 2nd spot in the East.
Don't think Schiano will have the same issue; bringing in even better talent + better coaching staff will equal more wins.
In a truncated season, Schiano already got as many wins as RU had for the 2018 and 2919 seasons combined.
With a couple of more recruiting classes under his belt, expect Schiano to have RU challenging PSU, IU and UM for the 2nd spot in the East.
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As Hdhntr pointed out, the key to making this list is winning with so-called lower-rated talent.
Schiano's improved recruiting classes will make it harder to rank high on this list, and he may even make the underachievers list until he wins a lot of games. Of course, the best list to be ranked high on is the actual polls late in the season.
^ How's that any different for teams that recruit pretty well?
Michigan, despite its issues, still usually ranks in the Top 20 for recruiting classes, but doesn't make the list because they have avoided having multiple really bad seasons.
Before Schiano, RU usually ranked 13th or dead last in the conference for class rankings (their high was 9th) - not a recipe for success (esp. with improved recruiting by IU and UMD, albeit while Locksley can recruit, still can't coach).
Having 1-2 win seasons on a regular basis will put you on the list even if your classes are largely made up of 3 star players.
Like had stated, if Schiano can get a couple more classes (where they are in the upper half of the conference ), they will be giving PSU, UI and UM a challenge for the 2nd spot in the East.
If they finish around .500 in the conference most years, even with the improved recruiting, they likely won't make the list.
These are the Michigan win totals for the past 4 seasons:
5, 8, 6 and 2 (last for a really truncated season).
Think Schiano can replicate something like that and his recruiting classes won't be as highly ranked as Harbaugh's have been.
Michigan, despite its issues, still usually ranks in the Top 20 for recruiting classes, but doesn't make the list because they have avoided having multiple really bad seasons.
Before Schiano, RU usually ranked 13th or dead last in the conference for class rankings (their high was 9th) - not a recipe for success (esp. with improved recruiting by IU and UMD, albeit while Locksley can recruit, still can't coach).
Having 1-2 win seasons on a regular basis will put you on the list even if your classes are largely made up of 3 star players.
Like had stated, if Schiano can get a couple more classes (where they are in the upper half of the conference ), they will be giving PSU, UI and UM a challenge for the 2nd spot in the East.
If they finish around .500 in the conference most years, even with the improved recruiting, they likely won't make the list.
These are the Michigan win totals for the past 4 seasons:
5, 8, 6 and 2 (last for a really truncated season).
Think Schiano can replicate something like that and his recruiting classes won't be as highly ranked as Harbaugh's have been.
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I think its pretty clear that Harbaugh's act may work for an up and coming program like Stanford or even a 49er team that performed above its expectations, but it won't work at a traditional powerhouse like Michigan. I am really surprised they have not pulled the plug on that one. I think there is a lot of indecision in Ann Arbor and that program won't recover until somebody up there makes a strong decision.
