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The Young Team That We Are

Jonny2TheP

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I meant to post this after the Illinois game, but wasn't able to find the time, so it is a few days late.

After watching the game against Illinois the other night, I actually came away feeling good. Yes, that is a little odd, but that game just reminded me how young this team is. That game was such a classic example of a young team getting a lesson. The blowout loss was tough to watch, but I truly think it is better for the team in the long run when you look at what this team has gone through.

Just looking at the Big Ten season, we won an ugly game at Rutgers and then went on to lose ten straight, many in excruciating fashion. The last few games of that ten game losing streak, you felt that the team had hit a low and that all of the close losses had finally taken a toll. It was hard to know what the rest of the season would be, but it felt like the losses had just become too much and that there could be a downward spiral until the end. But then they battled and got a well earned win against a good Iowa team, and then it just all started clicking. The weight was off the shoulders, and a four game win streak, the absolute high point of the season, followed. The team was obviously having fun again and the confidence was the highest it had been all season.

Then came Saturday. Blown out from the first minute by a team that absolutely could not afford losing to us. It was never even a game. I think it was a great lesson for these young Cats, and I love what this season has been. Sure, I wish we would have many more wins, but for a young team, they have experienced a lot of things this year- some good, but honestly, mostly bad. Painful close losses (Michigan State, Maryland, OSU, etc.), a few blowout losses (Wisconsin, MSU, Illinois, etc.), a fun four game winning streak, and a reality check loss (this last Illinois game). I am glad they have been able to taste failure and success as I truly believe all of this will make for a better team next year.
 
Good post.

What Al McGuire said is the best thing about freshmen (they turn into sophomores).

More size coming next year, and the talented kids will get big over the summer.
 
Typical NU team. It has a mid season run, gets to anywhere between 3-8 wins on a yearly basis, but with hope of next year.
As purple color fans, we all have hope, but I must admit, I'm just as excited about next year as I have been the last ten. Seems like we always think we have a shot at the big dance but it just doesn't materialize. Whether it was the fallout from Coble walking away, to Crawford injuries, to Cobb injuries, etc. The beat goes on. Is the program cursed? I don't believe that, but it may be. I have a sorta bi polar view of next year. On the one hand, I expect NIT or NCAA. On the other hand, I expect some sorta huge thing to beset us and cause affliction. Always sorta pops up in some fashion to doom us. Same with football and it affects most everything on the north side of Chicago as well. Almost like a plague. Go figure.
This post was edited on 3/3 9:21 AM by Turk
 
It's time for a deep breath, possibly several. About a half dozen games into the conference season next year, we'll have some idea of where the program stands.
 
Actually 7, we will have a more realistic idea in 2018.
This post was edited on 3/3 5:36 PM by willycat
 
I would like to add that we'll have 100% certainty about the 2018 team in May of 2019.
 
Yours is a smarter version of my question

Johnny, your post is a sharper, smarter and more comprehensive version of the question I am asking myself about this team. "What is the reality of this team?"

They are not nearly as bad as a team that lost 10 straight. OTOH, I'm not sure they can play as well against all B10 competition as they did during the four-game win streak.

The reality is somewhere in between, especially when you consider injuries.

I'm looking forward to these last games. I hope they show me more of the winning-streak team.
 
Wouldn't that be the first year that Collins would have a squad of all of his recruits? Just asking.
 
Willy,

While just two years ago I might have argued the point differently, I've now come around to the principal that a coach should have 100% of his recruits performing on the court before any sort of evaluation takes place.

And, I assume you think that's 2018 because Taphorn, originally a Bill Carmody recruit, will not graduate until 2017.

However, Ash was a Bill Carmody recruit as well and he will not graduate until 2019, so I think the job that CCC is doing cannot be evaluated until Ash is gone (good riddance young man who won't step on campus for another five months!) which will be 2019.

So, 2020. But I think they should be allowed to play together for a year or two.

So, 2022.
 
Medillwhy don't we just agree to give Collins at least 13 seasons., until every kid Carmody saw play JV ball has graduated. Get over it and you'll feel better.

This post was edited on 3/3 9:21 PM by willycat
 
Originally posted by Medill90:
Willy,

While just two years ago I might have argued the point differently, I've now come around to the principal that a coach should have 100% of his recruits performing on the court before any sort of evaluation takes place.

And, I assume you think that's 2018 because Taphorn, originally a Bill Carmody recruit, will not graduate until 2017.

However, Ash was a Bill Carmody recruit as well and he will not graduate until 2019, so I think the job that CCC is doing cannot be evaluated until Ash is gone (good riddance young man who won't step on campus for another five months!) which will be 2019.

So, 2020. But I think they should be allowed to play together for a year or two.

So, 2022.
This is ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by Medill90:
Beyond ridiculous
Um, because it was a level to bait Willy into making a silly comment about 13 seasons yet again? What do i win?
 
Originally posted by mikewebb68:

Originally posted by Medill90:
Beyond ridiculous
Um, because it was a level to bait Willy into making a silly comment about 13 seasons yet again? What do i win?
You both win a Bitchin' Willy doll! Pull the string and he rags on DocCatsFan.
 
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