There are RECORDINGS

[NUCat320]

I’ve read on Twitter and in at least two threads here that THERE ARE RECORDINGS of the initial whistleblower saying that he intended to lie in his complaint and that he intended to get Pat Fitzgerald fired.


1. Who has these recordings?
2. Has anyone heard these recordings?
3. When were the recordings made?

4. Did anything in the Daily’s reporting conflict with the initial emailed complaint? (I swear Rittenberg posted the complaint, but I can’t find it.)

5. Since the reporting came out on Saturday, has *anyone, anyone at all* denied that there was hazing of a sexual nature in the Northwestern locker room?

6. If there was hazing of a sexual nature, doesn’t it stand to reason that firing the leader is a reasonable consequence?

7. If the whistleblower’s intent was to get Pat Fitzgerald fired, how does that affect your answers to #5 and #6?


Let’s not become Penn State fans. Bad stuff went down. Firing was a reasonable consequence.

If they had announced a four-game or six-month suspension instead of a two-week vacation during vacation time, Pat Fitzgerald would likely still be the head coach.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Good questions.

 

[phatcat]

I’ve read on Twitter and in at least two threads here that THERE ARE RECORDINGS of the initial whistleblower saying that he intended to lie in his complaint and that he intended to get Pat Fitzgerald fired.


1. Who has these recordings?
2. Has anyone heard these recordings?
3. When were the recordings made?

4. Did anything in the Daily’s reporting conflict with the initial emailed complaint? (I swear Rittenberg posted the complaint, but I can’t find it.)

5. Since the reporting came out on Saturday, has *anyone, anyone at all* denied that there was hazing of a sexual nature in the Northwestern locker room?

6. If there was hazing of a sexual nature, doesn’t it stand to reason that firing the leader is a reasonable consequence?

7. If the whistleblower’s intent was to get Pat Fitzgerald fired, how does that affect your answers to #5 and #6?


Let’s not become Penn State fans. Bad stuff went down. Firing was a reasonable consequence.

If they had announced a four-game or six-month suspension instead of a two-week vacation during vacation time, Pat Fitzgerald would likely still be the head coach.

I once had a disgruntled employee that I fired and he filed an OSHA complaint, which led to a number of remediations on our part. So we fixed a number of things that were non compliant. I couldn't complain, they were legit safety issues. Now, to be fair, he wasn't a noodle arm QB.

Hazing is a zero tolerance issue, no matter how it was publicized and how badly the administration handled it.

 

[FeralFelidae]

I once had a disgruntled employee that I fired and he filed an OSHA complaint, which led to a number of remediations on our part. So we fixed a number of things that were non compliant. I couldn't complain, they were legit safety issues. Now, to be fair, he wasn't a noodle arm QB.

Hazing is a zero tolerance issue, no matter how it was publicized and how badly the administration handled it.

You got a complaint, and then you fixed the issues.

But should you have known?

 

[phatcat]

You got a complaint, and then you fixed the issues.

But should you have known?

Most of them, yeah. A few were well hidden. My point was that #7 above is annoying but not disqualifying. Disgruntled employees do this. My takeaway was to keep my employees gruntled

 

[ricko654321]

I’ve read on Twitter and in at least two threads here that THERE ARE RECORDINGS of the initial whistleblower saying that he intended to lie in his complaint and that he intended to get Pat Fitzgerald fired.


1. Who has these recordings?
2. Has anyone heard these recordings?
3. When were the recordings made?

4. Did anything in the Daily’s reporting conflict with the initial emailed complaint? (I swear Rittenberg posted the complaint, but I can’t find it.)

5. Since the reporting came out on Saturday, has *anyone, anyone at all* denied that there was hazing of a sexual nature in the Northwestern locker room?

6. If there was hazing of a sexual nature, doesn’t it stand to reason that firing the leader is a reasonable consequence?

7. If the whistleblower’s intent was to get Pat Fitzgerald fired, how does that affect your answers to #5 and #6?


Let’s not become Penn State fans. Bad stuff went down. Firing was a reasonable consequence.

If they had announced a four-game or six-month suspension instead of a two-week vacation during vacation time, Pat Fitzgerald would likely still be the head coach.

Players made the recording(s) from what I understand. They have been sent to media members, including Rittenberg. I have not heard them myself but have been described (hearsay) of the content- essentially the source saying that he has a plan, he intends to exaggerate things and develop a story in an effort to take down Fitz, wants him to rot in jail. I don't believe they include the whistleblower saying he will lie or outright fabricate things.

No one can / is willing to put the recordings out publicly because they don't want to "out" the whistleblower, even though in these circles clearly that has already happened.

 

[curdog]

I once had a disgruntled employee that I fired and he filed an OSHA complaint, which led to a number of remediations on our part. So we fixed a number of things that were non compliant. I couldn't complain, they were legit safety issues. Now, to be fair, he wasn't a noodle arm QB.

Hazing is a zero tolerance issue, no matter how it was publicized and how badly the administration handled it.

Hazing as defined on dictionary.com is “subjection to harassment or ridicule.” Every year on Hard Knocks, rookies are required to put on some type of sketch (sing, dancing, juggling, whatever). The whole point is for the rookies to be laughed at. Would you not consider this hazing? I would, yet it is not just tolerated but amplified by the show. There are degrees to this and zero tolerance is not realistic.

 

[NUCat320]

Players made the recording(s) from what I understand. They have been sent to media members, including Rittenberg. I have not heard them myself but have been described (hearsay) of the content- essentially the source saying that he has a plan, he intends to exaggerate things and develop a story in an effort to take down Fitz, wants him to rot in jail. I don't believe they include the whistleblower saying he will lie or outright fabricate things.

No one can / is willing to put the recordings out publicly because they don't want to "out" the whistleblower, even though in these circles clearly that has already happened.

Thanks.

Thanks. Is there a source in the media that refers to or describes the recording? Or is it mostly social media chatter?

 

[ricko654321]

Thanks.

Thanks. Is there a source in the media that refers to or describes the recording? Or is it mostly social media chatter?

Ex-player calls for Fitzgerald ouster after inquiry

A former Northwestern football player on Sunday detailed his hazing allegations that sparked a university-commissioned investigation and said Pat Fitzgerald should no longer be the coach of the program.

www.espn.com

This gives you an idea of what the recording(s) likely include. Note those couple small phrases are the only secondhand / hearsay quotes that Rittenberg includes in the entire article - could be there is a reason for that.

"He just kept emphasizing, 'Yeah, it'll be OK. I'm just trying to get Coach Fitz fired,'" the current player told ESPN. "I don't think he ever acknowledged what he's saying is not true. It was just like, 'I might embellish or exaggerate to get Coach Fitz fired.' He said his sole goal was to see Coach Fitz rot in jail.

 

[Darren72]

The only place I've seen a statement that a recording exists is in a thread on the Rock. Have not seen it reported in any media outlets or by Rittenberg.

 

[ricko654321]

The only place I've seen a statement that a recording exists is in a thread on the Rock. Have not seen it reported in any media outlets or by Rittenberg.

Well they can't / won't report on it or put it out publicly bc of whistleblower confidentiality... but I have been told that player(s) have sent the recording directly to Rittenberg, among others. And he has acknowledged it.