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So Tre goes off for 38 today. Admittedly these teams NU's playing would probably not beat MVSU, but I don't care if you're playing against air, scoring 38 is pretty cool.
 
So Tre goes off for 38 today. Admittedly these teams NU's playing would probably not beat MVSU, but I don't care if you're playing against air, scoring 38 is pretty cool.

15-18 from the field, 6-8 from 3 pt line. Wow. He was definitely feeling it.
Looking at the full box score, the team was 33-77 and the numbers don't add up from the individual stats. So maybe he wasn't 15-18 from the field.
 
Admittedly these teams NU's playing would probably not beat MVSU, but I don't care if you're playing against air....
Technically Tarragona is a bit tougher than the previous 2, because the play in LEB-plata league, which is the third level of Spanish basketball, as opposed to the previous 2, which play a level lower....However, Tarragona was also playing at the fourth level the season before last, but managed to get promoted one level (under the relegation/promotion system common in Europe's pro leagues). So, a bit tougher, but not by much.
Incidentally, the next and final opponent is actually a French team, albeit one very near the French-Spanish border...unfortunately they play at the French fourth level.
Not sure if this was intentional or it was just not possible to schedule stronger teams....
If possible they should have scheduled teams roughly equivalent to a B1G team, or even a bit higher...after all, the whole point of these games is to get ready for the B1G season....and losing these games (or wining them) don't mean that much in the big scheme of things...oh well...
 
Typically on these tours there is a tour operator that schedules games. Don't know if the coaches specify the level of competition with the tour operator or not?
 
Technically Tarragona is a bit tougher than the previous 2, because the play in LEB-plata league, which is the third level of Spanish basketball, as opposed to the previous 2, which play a level lower....However, Tarragona was also playing at the fourth level the season before last, but managed to get promoted one level (under the relegation/promotion system common in Europe's pro leagues). So, a bit tougher, but not by much.
Incidentally, the next and final opponent is actually a French team, albeit one very near the French-Spanish border...unfortunately they play at the French fourth level.
Not sure if this was intentional or it was just not possible to schedule stronger teams....
If possible they should have scheduled teams roughly equivalent to a B1G team, or even a bit higher...after all, the whole point of these games is to get ready for the B1G season....and losing these games (or wining them) don't mean that much in the big scheme of things...oh well...

What level was the first team we played (the one to whom we lost by 2)
 
Typically on these tours there is a tour operator that schedules games. Don't know if the coaches specify the level of competition with the tour operator or not?
C'mon, I'm sure Collins had something to do with it and that this is a system used for other teams in other years as well. It's not like the tour operator could have picked high school caliber teams. These teams seem to be exactly what we need and excellent picks to get our team into its offense and defense without a bruising physical matchup where someone could get hurt.

Most important development is team chemistry and two weeks of developing our offense and defense. I see it as playing Missippii Valley State about 5 times in a row. Nice to see Falzon and Joey on the hardcourt.
 
C'mon, I'm sure Collins had something to do with it and that this is a system used for other teams in other years as well. It's not like the tour operator could have picked high school caliber teams. These teams seem to be exactly what we need and excellent picks to get our team into its offense and defense without a bruising physical matchup where someone could get hurt.

Most important development is team chemistry and two weeks of developing our offense and defense. I see it as playing Missippii Valley State about 5 times in a row. Nice to see Falzon and Joey on the hardcourt.

Didn't you say before the tour that someone on the basketball staff said these teams would wallop NU? Ha!
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB_Estudiantes

Again, I don't know if it was their "A-team" or one of their developmental clubs, but Estudiantes are a top tier spanish team
When did we play Estudiantes?
I only remember the "AllStar" team (level unknown), Eurocolegio Casvi and Murcia II (both from Spain's Liga EBA, the 4th level), and the previously mentioned Tarragona (recently promoted to the third level), plus the upcoming French team (4th level).
Even if we did play Estudiantes, one has to know which of their teams, since they are likely to have several at various levels. The "B" teams of top teams may play at very low levels...for example, we did play MURCIA (perhaps you meant that?) which does have a team at the top level, but we played their B team, which plays at the 4th level (the same level of Real Madrid's B team...although RM is a top European team) .
 
Most important development is team chemistry and two weeks of developing our offense and defense. I see it as playing Missippii Valley State about 5 times in a row. Nice to see Falzon and Joey on the hardcourt.
Yeah, but why on earth is that a good idea, say as opposed to playing a team at least at the level of a mid-pack B1G or major conference team, with at least one or 2 at the final-4 level? Even if we lost, so what? And we would be reasonably sure that what works (or doesn't) against such teams is likely to work (or not) in the B1G, and postseason (if any).
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB_Estudiantes

Again, I don't know if it was their "A-team" or one of their developmental clubs, but Estudiantes are a top tier spanish team

The first team was some sort of "all star" group and seems to be guys who were from slightly higher levels than the rest for our opponents.

A first-division team from Spain would probably dismantle us. Those guys are good.
 
The first team was some sort of "all star" group and seems to be guys who were from slightly higher levels than the rest for our opponents.

A first-division team from Spain would probably dismantle us. Those guys are good.

Agree. Guys like Rubio, Calderon, and the Gasol Bros are 1st division guys. 1st Division All Stars for Spain (plus the Gasols) have beat the US National Team with NBA players.
 
When did we play Estudiantes?
I only remember the "AllStar" team (level unknown), Eurocolegio Casvi and Murcia II (both from Spain's Liga EBA, the 4th level), and the previously mentioned Tarragona (recently promoted to the third level), plus the upcoming French team (4th level).
Even if we did play Estudiantes, one has to know which of their teams, since they are likely to have several at various levels. The "B" teams of top teams may play at very low levels...for example, we did play MURCIA (perhaps you meant that?) which does have a team at the top level, but we played their B team, which plays at the 4th level (the same level of Real Madrid's B team...although RM is a top European team) .
Anybody know spanish? I think Estudiantes means the students.
 
Anybody know spanish? I think Estudiantes means the students.
It sure does...but what's the relevance here? It's just a club's name...it does NOT mean that the players are student athletes...for whatever reason several pro teams in various sports (soccer comes to mind) throughout the Spanish-speaking world call themselves Estudiantes...it probably has something to do with their founding many decades ago, but other than that they are just pro teams.
Incidentally the Murcia team is OWNED by a catholic university...but again...they are just the owners....the players are just players, not students.
 
The Spartans went 1-3 on their trip, w/ 2 blow-out losses and 1 loss by a point.
 
OK, so I checked Bing myself, and discovered that they are playing the National Teams of Italy, Georgia, and Russia. They were blown out by Italy and Russia, and lost a close one to Georgia. Italy and Russia are in the top 10 in the world. These are teams that qualify for Olympic play and go up against Dream Team USA (though usually getting slaughtered), but it is safe to say, the competition is at a much higher level than the teams we played.

http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082015aae.html

the one Club team they played, they mauled 98-54. I have no idea how Basket Fiorentina compares to the teams we played and whether or not we played their varsity team or the B team like we did with the clubs in Spain.
 
OK, so I checked Bing myself, and discovered that they are playing the National Teams of Italy, Georgia, and Russia. They were blown out by Italy and Russia, and lost a close one to Georgia. Italy and Russia are in the top 10 in the world....he one Club team they played, they mauled 98-54. I have no idea how Basket Fiorentina compares...
FWIW, per FIBA Russia is top 10, but Italy is #36 and Georgia #54. With national teams, the question is always which players actually play in a given competition or game...it is rare for a country to get all its best players to play, especially if the competition is not the Olympics or World championship....anyhow, it goes without saying that any of the mentioned national teams should be much stronger than a 4th-division Spanish club.
The Italian club seems to be an expansion team, in Italy's Series B, which is the third level of Italian pro basketball...probably comparable to the better of the Spanish clubs that the cats played (which got recently promoted from Spain's 4th to 3rd level).
 
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