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Trey Klock

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Any word on the decision of the OL from Georgia Tech? I think we could sure use him to bolster the OL next year.
 
He visited Temple last weekend. He is considering them because they are close to home. I think they are our main competition. If you don't hear anything soon about him committing to Temple then obviously our chances improve dramatically.
 
Having lived in both philly and Evanston, the schools are not equal and Temple is in a god awful area. Not really much of a decision here
 
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Maybe Klock is worried he'll also be painted purple after every NU win.

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I guess the question now is: left tackle or right? Does he move, or does Hance?
 
One thing to keep in mind is that he played in a heavy heavy run oriented offense. We need to get better in pass protection.
 
Any scoop on his measurables or how much he played at GT? Why he is moving along?
 
One thing to keep in mind is that he played in a heavy heavy run oriented offense. We need to get better in pass protection.
I do not believe the coaches would have brought him in if they did not think he could contribute next year. Nor do I think he would have come here if he lacked the same understanding.
 
I do not believe the coaches would have brought him in if they did not think he could contribute next year. Nor do I think he would have come here if he lacked the same understanding.

While it's a bit old, there's no reason to think he couldn't contribute based on his high school tape (and the fact that he has 3 years of P5 S&C under his belt):



My guess is still that he fits into our scheme better at guard, but could probably passably play guard or tackle. At the very least it brings another level of "competitive depth" to the OL room, which is something Fitz was belaboring just a couple weeks ago.
 
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They seem to have cornered the market on Grad Transfers with 2 years of eligibility left...almost like they've unlocked some kind of cheat code!

about time they figured this out. NU needs to take advantage of its strengths. Good grad schools and a refusal to treat its players like human chattel (with a reputation in that regard to go along with it).
 
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about time they figured this out. NU needs to take advantage of its strengths. Good grad schools and a refusal to treat its players like human chattel (with a reputation in that regard to go along with it).

I like the concept. You have to find guys who are smart enough to graduate in 3 years, not an easy task!
 
They seem to have cornered the market on Grad Transfers with 2 years of eligibility left...almost like they've unlocked some kind of cheat code!

Typically that hasn't been their philosophy as it blocks young guys who have been in the program for a couple years from taking starting roles organically.

What this tells me is that:

A) The staff is not confident about the overall underclassman depth at WR, OL, and LB (I'd throw Longs position change into this as well).
B) They believe they have a window to compete for a Big Ten championship over the next 1-2 years and are going "All In" so to speak
C) The grad transfers are not guaranteed playing time and are being used as "competitive depth"
 
Typically that hasn't been their philosophy as it blocks young guys who have been in the program for a couple years from taking starting roles organically.

What this tells me is that:

A) The staff is not confident about the overall underclassman depth at WR, OL, and LB (I'd throw Longs position change into this as well).
B) They believe they have a window to compete for a Big Ten championship over the next 1-2 years and are going "All In" so to speak
C) The grad transfers are not guaranteed playing time and are being used as "competitive depth"

Great analysis. All 3 points are valid.
 
Typically that hasn't been their philosophy as it blocks young guys who have been in the program for a couple years from taking starting roles organically.

What this tells me is that:

A) The staff is not confident about the overall underclassman depth at WR, OL, and LB (I'd throw Longs position change into this as well).
B) They believe they have a window to compete for a Big Ten championship over the next 1-2 years and are going "All In" so to speak
C) The grad transfers are not guaranteed playing time and are being used as "competitive depth"

I agree that this has not been the philosophy in the past. However, I think Fitz has changed his recruiting philosophy gradually over the years. He gradually has become more aggressive on issues like allowing guys to enroll early, pursuing guys who are committed elsewhere but show some interest, playing more freshman if they can push past the upperclassmen who he previously favored out of respect IMO. I think he is trying to send a clearer message that if you don't put in the extra time to develop you will be passed.

I think he sees this grad transfer thing as a leading edge opportunity where NU has an advantage over other schools and everyone is on notice that we are going to put the best players on the field even if we can get some other school to develop them.

I think mining the Grad transfer option is here to stay and wouldn't be surprised to see NU with more 2 year transfers than anyone else over the next 5 years.
 
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I agree that this has not been the philosophy in the past. However, I think Fitz has changed his recruiting philosophy gradually over the years. He gradually has become more aggressive on issues like allowing guys to enroll early, pursuing guys who are committed elsewhere but show some interest, playing more freshman if they can push past the upperclassmen who he previously favored out of respect IMO. I think he is trying to send a clearer message that if you don't put in the extra time to develop you will be passed.

I think he sees this grad transfer thing as a leading edge opportunity where NU has an advantage over other schools and everyone is on notice that we are going to put the best players on the field even if we can get some other school to develop them.

I think mining the Grad transfer option is here to stay and wouldn't be surprised to see NU with more 2 year transfers than anyone else over the next 5 years.

I am also in favor of this. you get a proven commodity who has 3 years of practice and games under their belt, and culturally someone who fits the NU mold given that they have graduated in only 3 years. Not a bad way to supplement the roster and fill in for kids whose career was cut short by injury. Low risk approach to recruiting.
 
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Significant OL addition. Anyone know what sort of offer list he had out of high school. ?

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and, Go Cats !!
 
I think mining the Grad transfer option is here to stay and wouldn't be surprised to see NU with more 2 year transfers than anyone else over the next 5 years.
We've taken regular transfers like Miles Shuler from Rutgers and another WR from USC under Fitz. We got Zak Kustok under Walk (?). Why not go after grad transfers? It's like Juco without the academic and character issues.
 
We've taken regular transfers like Miles Shuler from Rutgers and another WR from USC under Fitz. We got Zak Kustok under Walk (?). Why not go after grad transfers? It's like Juco without the academic and character issues.
I think it is a great strategy. There should be an administrator or something working the options and possibilities so no stone goes unturned.
 
I am also in favor of this. you get a proven commodity who has 3 years of practice and games under their belt, and culturally someone who fits the NU mold given that they have graduated in only 3 years. Not a bad way to supplement the roster and fill in for kids whose career was cut short by injury. Low risk approach to recruiting.

I will play devils advocate. First, I'll say getting Brown and Klock is great. Experienced players at positions of need. The problem is there are so few of these type of players that will be available each year it would be difficult to sustain. How many players graduate in 3 years and have playing. Experience with 2 years teaming eligibility? The players will need to learn a brand new system with very little time to do so for their first season. They will need to be very strong players to fully contribute their first season. Fortunately, Brown and Klock look like they fit the bill. We are lucky they took a red shirt year as many of the players that would assimilate quickly likely could play at their former school as true Freshman.

Love the fact that we got these two young men and do think they will contribute this season, just wouldn't expect this to be an annual occurrence.
 
I will play devils advocate. First, I'll say getting Brown and Klock is great. Experienced players at positions of need. The problem is there are so few of these type of players that will be available each year it would be difficult to sustain. How many players graduate in 3 years and have playing. Experience with 2 years teaming eligibility? The players will need to learn a brand new system with very little time to do so for their first season. They will need to be very strong players to fully contribute their first season. Fortunately, Brown and Klock look like they fit the bill. We are lucky they took a red shirt year as many of the players that would assimilate quickly likely could play at their former school as true Freshman.

Love the fact that we got these two young men and do think they will contribute this season, just wouldn't expect this to be an annual occurrence.

All true. NU's recruiting strategy cannot be "let's only focus on grad transfers". But picking up a couple every few years? Great way to supplement the roster.
 
You realize getting Grad transfers is a good thing. NU will always be a destination for those wanting advanced degrees and perhaps a better situation.
 
I will play devils advocate. First, I'll say getting Brown and Klock is great. Experienced players at positions of need. The problem is there are so few of these type of players that will be available each year it would be difficult to sustain. How many players graduate in 3 years and have playing. Experience with 2 years teaming eligibility? The players will need to learn a brand new system with very little time to do so for their first season. They will need to be very strong players to fully contribute their first season. Fortunately, Brown and Klock look like they fit the bill. We are lucky they took a red shirt year as many of the players that would assimilate quickly likely could play at their former school as true Freshman.

Love the fact that we got these two young men and do think they will contribute this season, just wouldn't expect this to be an annual occurrence.
Why does it only have to be kids that graduate in 3 years? Couldn't you also get guys who only have 1 year left - Russell Wilson was a pretty good get for Wisconsin
 
Why does it only have to be kids that graduate in 3 years? Couldn't you also get guys who only have 1 year left - Russell Wilson was a pretty good get for Wisconsin

Obviously it doesn't only HAVE TO BE guys with two years left, but the fact that both of the higher-profile grad transfers we are bringing in this year suggests a pattern that NU is looking for such players (Otto from WIU should have an immediate role as at least the kickoff specialist, but obviously a WR and OL will garner more headlines). The "2 to play 2" grad transfer is an interesting market inefficiency, a kind of moneyball for college football.
 
I will play devils advocate. First, I'll say getting Brown and Klock is great. Experienced players at positions of need. The problem is there are so few of these type of players that will be available each year it would be difficult to sustain. How many players graduate in 3 years and have playing. Experience with 2 years teaming eligibility? The players will need to learn a brand new system with very little time to do so for their first season. They will need to be very strong players to fully contribute their first season. Fortunately, Brown and Klock look like they fit the bill. We are lucky they took a red shirt year as many of the players that would assimilate quickly likely could play at their former school as true Freshman.

Love the fact that we got these two young men and do think they will contribute this season, just wouldn't expect this to be an annual occurrence.

Your Devil's advocate perspective is accurate but a strategy where we pursue this kind of player may be one where NU has a distinct advantage over many other programs. These are academic guys who may be great college athletes but not necessarily NFL material. This is a real parlay of trading developed, athletic ability for not just a college degree but also a masters at a prestigious school.
A guy might even choose a school for undergrad that would be an easy three year degree in order to do this.
 
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I will point out that it seems that the rate of player retirement from injuries before having exhausted eligibility is rising and this is a natural way to address that issue.
 
Why does it only have to be kids that graduate in 3 years? Couldn't you also get guys who only have 1 year left - Russell Wilson was a pretty good get for Wisconsin
You can but I imagine that much of that year is just working in. Having a second year adds so much to their value.
 
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