2 time Olympic medalist enters portal and blasts NU athletic department and NU swimming saying the program is falling apart and lacks competent leadership. Reported in SwimSwam. The national magazine of swimming.
Uggh...Burdisso enters portal
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Two-Time Olympic Medalist Federico Burdisso Will No Longer Compete For Northwestern
Burdisso is no longer a member of Northwestern's swim team and is shifting his focus to the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris.
swimswam.com
Anyone have more info on what the issues may be with our swim teams?
This is brutal. We should downgrade men’s swimming to a club sport. Take the money and apply to football and men’s basketball. No one cares about men’s swimming and diving.
What money? Men's swimming costs NU next to nothing and has had multiple world championship and Olympic medalists over the last 20 years. If you want to ditch a men's sport it should be any other sport. None of them have completed at the level of the swimmers.
10 scholarships is a lot of money. Make them club like men’s fencing. Feed the revenue sports.
Nonsense. Using your rational, we would eliminate all non revenue sports where scholarships are offered, like wrestling, field hockey, lacrosse and soccer, to name a few. Many NU swimmers have distinguished themselves with Olympic medals, NCAA and Big Ten Championships, etc., but I suspect you're not being serious here.
If it is like many of the sports, the number of scholarships that can be offered and the number NU offers are quite a bit different. THey may have scholarship guys but far less than would be allowed. That makes it pretty hard to compete on a team level
So how can he do so well on an internationals stage but so crappy at NU?Two-Time Olympic Medalist Federico Burdisso Will No Longer Compete For Northwestern
Burdisso is no longer a member of Northwestern's swim team and is shifting his focus to the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris.
Anyone have more info on what the issues may be with our swim teams?
I think I get what you're doing here. Alas, the people who only care about revenue sports don't read this board.
A bunch of things could contribute to him doing better internationally than in NCAA.
International meets are swum in 50 meter pools. Longer races, fewer turns. If he is good in the pool but not good starter or turner, short course races would be bad for him.
Second. He may have prioritized his international races. Swimming is all about practicing until you have chronic muscle fatigue, then tapering to practices that build fast twitch muscle and energy stores prior to big races. You can only make that work a couple times a year. In season most distance specialists will grind their body down to about 2-3 percent body fat while eating 10-15 thousand calories a day. Shut off the burn and work sprints for 10-15 days before a big meet and you got a great aerobic base and huge energy stores for your race.
Add in a whole body shave, cupping, pre race massage, latest suit and you are ready for the biggest races on your schedule. Most guys also use visualization, race psychologists for the big race.
All of those probably why Burdisso is better internationally. Hmm...European championships, Italian championship, Olympics, worlds...or big tens and ncaas for the taper?
Nonsense. Both men's and women's swimming are good, and the same is true for golf.
Awful, awful take.
Did you take no pride when Matt Grevers won all those medals? This is a post you’ll regret my friend.
Maybe that's why the ladies have only won the National Championship 7 times and have made the final 4 multiple times as well. Sort of like field hockey. 😂
I should have specified men’s lacrosse is a NE sport.
Our women’s lacrosse team is incredible. I knew a bunch of them back when I was on campus in the stone age. But men’s and women’s lacrosse are two different beasts.
How are we going to recruit the elite Northeastern talent to Evanston? They’d rather stay in the Northeast from what I’ve seen.
Exactly. Men's swimming has had numerous Olympic medalists and national champions, and Olivia Rosendahl won the NCAA Championship twice in platform diving.
A notable exception is University of Denver. Years ago they brought the already-successful Princeton coach out to take the Pioneer program to a higher level, and that he did. The Pioneers are a consistently top team in recent years. A big challenge now is that the coach (Bill Tierney) has announced this will be his last year.
The point is that although Denver does recruit aggressively in the East and elsewhere, they've competed in men's lacrosse quite successfully. I agree that NU could do so as well.
Some may know this, but "DU" (as the school is known) was also founded by a guy named John Evans -- who headed West after pretty much creating a city and school on Lake Michigan's shores.
None whatsoever. I’d trade 1,000 swimming and diving medals for a loss in the B1G Championship game. Swimming and diving is on par with men’s fencing for me. I don’t recall any outcry when they were downgraded to club. I’d much rather have a men’s track team.
I like pretty much every sport. I happen to be an ex-swimmer from long ago. I know what I had to do to compete at a very high level in IL swimming. I know the character of the people who dedicate themselves to it and the sacrifices they make. I also know that swimming is the most watched of the Olympic summer games. I know that US Swimming has nearly sold out a modified Lucas oil stadium for the 2024 US nationals.
The sport may lack popularity in your mind and be irrelevant to your sports life, but it is not a sport that NU should throw away. Baseball is a great sport but NU doesn't, never had, and never will compete at a high level. The field is insanely expensive, can't be used for anything else useful, travel and training costs are ridiculous, and coaching costs are way more than any other non revenue sport. Getting rid of baseball would make a much bigger dent in the sport budget if that was a goal. I would prefer no sport be axed, but if needed in the future it's the no-brainer target.
Now, let's hope baseball and men's swimming can both turn it around. I'll be cheering for them either way.
This is an excellent post in all respects. Coral just doesn't get it, or he deliberately stirring the pot. My guess is the latter!
Is that what NU has or is it what NCAA allows? If like other men's sports at NU they tend to not use them all.
It is not the money, It is the number of allowable scholarships which if NU handles swimming the same way they do other men's non revenue sports, they only use a portion of. And this is as much forced by title 9 as anything else
Again, it is not generally the sports budget. It is the side effects of title 9. The end result is that we would need another womens team of some sort to be able to use the total allowed scholarships. Many BIG schools have things like gymnastics something else allowing them to use allowable scholarships in men's sports. Say you have allowable 9.9 scholarships but only use 3. Pretty hard to do when you have to offset 85 scholarships in FB with no comparable women's sport. How competetive are you going to be? Need to add another womens team for men's sports like baseball, swimming, etc to be competitive.
Or downgrade the FB to club level and apply the money to all the other nonrevenue sports.
Men’s and women’s swimming & diving coach moving on. Can we bring back Bob Groseth? Jimmy Tierney? Is Kathie Wickstrand available?
So get rid of the sports that every BIG school has and replace them with a sport that only a couple have? And I believe Men's golf does pretty well.
Right you are! Both men and women's golf are very good, and swimming and diving has produced several NCAA champs and Olympians
Ok, downgrade the budget to that of club team. Call it the reindorf school of athletics. They can play on some small dirt field named after wirtz.
There you have the epitome of cheap, loyal, unsuccessful sports leadership which arguably reflects much of the nature of the problems at hand.
They don't give 10 schollies for men's But doing so could make them more competitive. Gould give then the tools to bring in and keep top coaches. Not good for a coaches career to field a program that is less competitive because they aren't giving out the scholarships that could put them in a competitive position.. You already have the facilities up to reasonable level and that was expensive (can you imagine having a ccompetitive program when it was at Patton pool?)
Swimswam is guessing that Wisconsin associate head coach is the favorite ( Kristy King). Another intriguing name is Michigan distance freestyle coach...Josh White I believe is his name
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