Ugh back on the bubble.
- Thread starter Grafcat
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No, we are not on the bubble! Three more wins and we are in the NCAA Tournament, which will all but guarantee at least one more top 50 win. Maybe not as high a seed, but we at least will be in the tournament.
Up to 58.3% today. I feel much better.
The quantity of information people compile and distribute is remarkable. Nobody *needs* this information, but I'm happy that some dork chose to provide it, whatever it is.
Considering we were in EVERY SINGLE MAJOR prognosticators tournament bracket (all 84 of them!) prior to the Illinois game, and our Kenpom hardly suffered at all following the loss, I would safely say that our tournament chances are nowhere near as low as 20%.
I'm pretty sure that means we're at 57 percent, down 23 percent from 80 before the Illinois game. Both of those numbers seem about right.
Maybe you're reading that wrong. Doesnt it mean our % dropped 23%, and is NOW 58?
That would seem to make more sense to me.
Not sure.
We can't have a 23% chance as of today, can we? 58 seems closer.
Out rpi should be borderline. As I pointed out last week (which Lou deleted, then there were 100 posts about the same subject last week that he let remain from posters he likes), not having beat one single decent team might keep us out.
That would seem to make more sense to me.
Not sure.
We can't have a 23% chance as of today, can we? 58 seems closer.
Out rpi should be borderline. As I pointed out last week (which Lou deleted, then there were 100 posts about the same subject last week that he let remain from posters he likes), not having beat one single decent team might keep us out.
Right, maybe. That's my point. You can play a tough schedule and beat no one good, and the numbers look ok. And Dayton will look ok at best. And so far there isn't even a close second to dayton's lukewarm first.
Wake is an obvious example of that.
Depends on the committee: a few years ago it was- who did you beat who's in?
If your resume answered that, you made it.
My Lou-deleted point which is now mainstream, was - supposedly rpi is a lesser consideration now than top 50 wins, top 100 wins.
Not sure if the last few selection sundays bore that out statistically or not, but that's what they've been saying.
You said: we beat no decent teams
I said: we beat Dayton (by ANY measure more than just a decent team)
You responded: that's my point
#mindblown
I said: we beat Dayton (by ANY measure more than just a decent team)
You responded: that's my point
#mindblown
Dayton may or may not even be decent is my point, and thats our only remotely "decent" win. Their best win is against 12-12 Vanderbilt and small time program, Rhode Island (rpi @50).
At some point rpi becomes cyclical. Teams like us and wake and Dayton beat each other, win a lot of games, lose to a lot of real good teams, and the rpi can remain high.
Hence my next point- since the committee changes their emphasis every year- we should wonder if one of their points of emphasis of the last 5 years (I.e. Who did you play, and who did you beat?) is true, or just throwaway words that the committee doesn't care about when the syracuses of the world steal bubble bids like last year.
We're close to being that team that gets left out. I'm just wondering if they will fit in another Syracuse again, at our expense.
Dayton is 18-5, #34 KenPom, and a lock for the Dance. If you don't believe that is at least "decent" I don't know what to tell you.
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