the winner gets sent to Cleveland next weekend. Oh my Lord. If that is true I'm afraid to ask where they send the loser
Watching Kentucky Cincinnati game, announcer says
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Great things said about Cleveland:
Ichiro: "To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." (Non native speaker, through an interpreter, so it's unclear if the tense-based brilliance was from ichiro or his help, though likely B.)
Jim Bouton, in Ball Four: "If you're ever in a plane crash in Cleveland, better if its on an inbound flight." (Not an exact quote, but Internet sources vary and my copy is at least 18 steps away.)
Note: I've never been in Cleveland, just by coincidence. I appreciate big bald Michael Symon's work on Food Network.
Ichiro: "To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying." (Non native speaker, through an interpreter, so it's unclear if the tense-based brilliance was from ichiro or his help, though likely B.)
Jim Bouton, in Ball Four: "If you're ever in a plane crash in Cleveland, better if its on an inbound flight." (Not an exact quote, but Internet sources vary and my copy is at least 18 steps away.)
Note: I've never been in Cleveland, just by coincidence. I appreciate big bald Michael Symon's work on Food Network.
You guys obviously know very little about Cleveland. The Museum of Art is one of the best in the country, as are the Botanical Gardens and Severance Hall and the Cleveland Symphony. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has no peer and is a lot of fun. The West Side Market encompasses several square blocks, and my wife and I frequently drive 1.5 hours just to spend a half day there. There are many excellent hotels and restaurants. The Cleveland Clinic is one of the top four hospitals in the country. The Airport is quite nice and the Lake offers many excellent recreational opportunities.
On your visits to Cleveland, what was it that disappointed you?
Ichiro doesn't speak English, and, therefore is unable to tell us what it was that he didn't like about Cleveland!
On your visits to Cleveland, what was it that disappointed you?
Ichiro doesn't speak English, and, therefore is unable to tell us what it was that he didn't like about Cleveland!
No Chores, I am from Toledo, which has little, if any, advantage over Cleveland. I now live in Baltimore city, another older industrial city, albeit a relatively healthy one.
Since I grew up in no-man's land between Cleveland and Detroit, I have seen the cities alternate as national punching bag. Both cities have attractions, history, local pride, etc, but to be fair, are not exactly "destinations". some observations for you
First, any time anyone from Florida disses something up North, ignore it. They are typically not qualified to judge, had to leave for any of a number of reasons, or simply cannot stand 4 seasons. Also, they are in denial that living in Florida sucks. See the Seinfeld episode where he visits his parents. Both Detroit and Cleveland continue to bleed population. It is hard to take a place seriously if people have been running away for 50 years. even with the loss of population, it is difficult for these cities to provide an economy or infrastructure that supports even the lower populationI cannot comment on Cleveland as much as Detroit, but the local politics are so laughable that they deserve their reputationMost of the things you mentioned are for people that live there, such as the hospital or the symphony. Unlikely that someone will say, let's go to an NCAA game, and whilst we are there, get a CAT scan at Cleveland Clinic and then go to the symphony.The weather does suck, just admit itNo professional championships since 19-effing-63. I am a long suffering Tribe fan and was teased throughout the 90s but now...It pains me to admit it, but having lived in 7 of the B1G states, Florida and California in my lifetime, if I were to choose where to live, it would be on the Pacific Coast between SF and Seattle, or on the East Coast between DC and New York. I have to grit my teeth when I say it, but it's true, for me anyway The south is overrated. Most of the southern cities are either boring or too touristy to want to live there. also, I don't care to live in a place that owes its entire existence to the invention of air conditioning. without that, I picture a lot of sweat stained shirts sitting in front of a fan with streamers on it. I do admire the economic model that does not require any infrastructure or jobs to get people to come their and spend their money. Brilliantpeople that still think the river catches fire or that Lake Erie is filthy are as ignorant as those that think NU football is still in the Dark Ages. The Great Lakes are a global treasure
This Turk-like post is intentionally inflammatory, to stand up for rust belt cities everywhere
Cleveland is not the same town it was when we were growing up (in my case 40ish years ago. It's a nice place now. Reputations die hard.
People have voted on Cleveland with their feet. And when the 1st line of defense is musuems, you've jumped the shark.
Doesn't mean you can't like it! Millions of people like Katy Perry for some reason! Live and let live.
Doesn't mean you can't like it! Millions of people like Katy Perry for some reason! Live and let live.
wicker,
Museums are one of the great reasons to visit Chicago, but it doesn't have the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Chicago has some great hotels and restaurants. Cleveland does too, just not as many. Chicago has some excellent pro sports venues and so does Cleveland. Chicago has one of the Great Lakes and so does Cleveland. I could go on, but my point is that anyone who thinks that Cleveland is not a fun place to visit simply doesn't know what he's talking about. By the way I'm not defending my hometown here - I live in Pennsylvania.
Museums are one of the great reasons to visit Chicago, but it doesn't have the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Chicago has some great hotels and restaurants. Cleveland does too, just not as many. Chicago has some excellent pro sports venues and so does Cleveland. Chicago has one of the Great Lakes and so does Cleveland. I could go on, but my point is that anyone who thinks that Cleveland is not a fun place to visit simply doesn't know what he's talking about. By the way I'm not defending my hometown here - I live in Pennsylvania.
Reputations die hard, indeed. And sometimes they are aided by the indelible mark of art.
I've been to Cleveland several times, hung out at the Flats, took the kids to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but for better or worse, every time I drive in I hear the swell of strings and Randy Newman's nasal drone singing, "Cleveland, City of Light, City of Magic!"
Burn On, Big River!
I've been to Cleveland several times, hung out at the Flats, took the kids to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but for better or worse, every time I drive in I hear the swell of strings and Randy Newman's nasal drone singing, "Cleveland, City of Light, City of Magic!"
Burn On, Big River!
Funny. That is the VERY song I think about every time I hear the word "Cleveland!"
The Lord can make you burn...
The Lord can make you burn...
The worst thing about Cleveland is that it is Buckeye country. Tons of Buckeyes. For that reason, it is the worst city in the country next to Columbus and for that reason, it should be burned to the ground and wiped from the face of the Earth as were sister cities of yore, Sodom and Gomorrah.
Yes, No Chores, I understand and apologize.
But, it was such a strong feeling, it had to be said twice.
In fact, I'm going to say it again. I'm sure Cleveland has a lot of nice and positive things as you have mentioned. But, the worst thing about Cleveland is all the Buckeyes. That cancels out all the goodness and then some and ruins it for me.
But, it was such a strong feeling, it had to be said twice.
In fact, I'm going to say it again. I'm sure Cleveland has a lot of nice and positive things as you have mentioned. But, the worst thing about Cleveland is all the Buckeyes. That cancels out all the goodness and then some and ruins it for me.
I had a client in Cleveland and spent a year there. I thought Cleveland got a really bad rap. Fun place. Great Lakes makes fantastic beer there.
Hungry,
Great Lakes brews some excellent beers. In fact, our tailgate captain in the west lot requires that I bring at least 6 Dortmunder Golds to every tailgate because he can't get it in Chicago. If you'd like me to bring some for you, I would be happy to do so.
And as for you EC, I understand what you are saying. The Bucknuts are everywhere in Cleveland, which is why I wear some NU gear whenever I go there.
Great Lakes brews some excellent beers. In fact, our tailgate captain in the west lot requires that I bring at least 6 Dortmunder Golds to every tailgate because he can't get it in Chicago. If you'd like me to bring some for you, I would be happy to do so.
And as for you EC, I understand what you are saying. The Bucknuts are everywhere in Cleveland, which is why I wear some NU gear whenever I go there.
That's quite an offer! I just picked a mixed-six of Dortmunder Gold, Fitzgerald Porter, and Ness Amber Lager from Binny's at lunch!
There is nothing fancy about Great Lakes. They generally don't do imperials, sours or anything trendy. Heck, they only have one IPA! But their beers are so well-made, balanced, consistent and tasty. Really impressive.
There is nothing fancy about Great Lakes. They generally don't do imperials, sours or anything trendy. Heck, they only have one IPA! But their beers are so well-made, balanced, consistent and tasty. Really impressive.
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