Would 11-7 in conference play and one win in BT tournament get us in NCAA tournament?
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Definitely NIT. It would require us to go 8-2 down the stretch and mostly on the road so probably some decent wins. I would guess bubble and depends on who else is there. BIGs record against ACC might limit number BIG teams. I would guess we would need two in BTT.
I think we need 10 more wins from here on out to have a shot at the tournament bubble. As there are only 10 games left before the conference tournament, I don't think that's very likely. NIT is a more reasonable - albeit still difficult - goal, although of course the team should be aiming to win every game.
3rd place will likely win 13+ games and 4th at least 11. 11-7 would likely either be 4th or 5th place.
11-7 usually, but not in the 6th best conference in the country. A power 5 conference not in the top 5!
Man, you really like to dis the Big Ten, don't you? And by doing so, you are trying to dis the Cats, so why are you on this board anyway? In a previous post, you indicated that you thought last year's team didn't deserve an NCAA bid for this same reason.
It’s not a diss, it’s just the facts. Just math.
Like a good “reporter” should use.
We’re 22 games in with zero wins over ncaa tournament teams and we play in the 6th best conference. 11-7 ain’t getting it done. At this point we’re not in the NIT.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Without having looked closely at this year's bubble field and taking into account it's only late January, I think this sounds about right.
Piggybacking on this thought, I might add these qualifiers to the 9 remaining wins:
1) Beat Michigan St (or Ohio St/Purdue in BTT)
2) Take 3 of 4 against Michigan/Maryland
3) Minnesota needs to remain in the top 100
He's ticked that his fake post last night by his other handle didn't get any real responses, so he switched back to Mystic to get mean. Pathetic is the word I'm thinking of...
Big Ten probably only a relative lock to get 4 teams this season. 5th best resume in the conference (not just 5th in standings) probably bubble team at best.
7 more (7-2 in last 9 and 9-2 in last 11) would have us at 20 wins prior to BTT. It would also have us playing pretty hot BB. It would likely take at least one win in BTT and probably 2 but I would guess under those circumstances we would be seen as pretty attractive and potentially hard to keep out.
The conference was very young at the beginning of the year. As it has gone on, it has gotten stronger with teams like OSU and RUT. It is likely that the conference is seen as far stronger now. For example, now 4 teams ranked in top 25 Question is how many BIG teams get in and it is likely 6 or better.
I would guess 9. 7 in regular season and two in BTT which would have us playing on SAT
A lot of dominoes there, CCF.
Yeah...
Personally, I've always been satisfied with any season that ends with a post season appearance. Now that the NIT slowly creeping in back into the picture (coupled the increased intensity the team is showing), watching games is becoming ab enjoyable experience again.
While an improbable run to the NCAA tournament this year would be incredible, last year's trip to the dance as well as the prospect of a NIT bid in 2018 (and a potential 20 win season) is plenty for me to get by on.
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I firmly believe we can go 7-2 the rest of the way! Solid team, these last three games!
If we beat MSU and Michigan (at least once) and get to a upper division slot in conference, we should be OK, despite our many double digit losses. I doubt if that will happen, but at least we are starting to be competitive and do have a chance.
Pathetic is the right word. Huge Holy Cross fan who only slithers out from under his rock when the going is tough for NU. Once the cats are in the new arena and this recruiting class is in I doubt he will will be around much more.
At the moment, I think you could put these BIG programs up for consideration.
Locks: Purdue, Mich St, Ohio St, Mich
Bubble: Maryland, Nebraska
That's only six teams on the tournament's radar and the bubble teams have flaws. Maryland has struggled mightily in conference play and while Nebraska has played several teams close, they haven't scored a top 50 win outside of Michigan and are nearly out of opportunities.
I love the BIG, but the conference just isn't what it was five years ago. Hard to imagine sending more than five in 2018 unless NU gets really hot or Minnesota finds a way to stop their free fall.
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“As it has gone on, it has gotten stronger with teams like OSU and RUT. It is likely that the conference is seen as far stronger now.”
No.
The conference per se doesn’t get any stronger or weaker (in the rpi sense) at all. It goes .500 once the noncon is over. The only thing that will change it (from 6th best, to 5th or 7th, etc) is the cumulative records of all the combined BIG opponents and those teams” respective opponents’ records. And that represents only about a third of the rpi calculation. So it’s fairly insignificant by now.
So it makes no difference if Illinois, say, wins out and wins the BTT, all those wins come at the BIGs expense. Every time they win, someone in the big loses and it’s a wash.
