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That was quick. He barely got on campus. Welcome news. Now to see the NU affect where he goes from unrated to three or 4 star
The young man is from Maine. A Chicago winter ain't gonna phase him.I work from home Fridays. I live in Evanston.
It is 80 degrees today. Not a cloud in the sky. Perfect weather.
There's not a recruit in America that can't be sold on NU on a day like today.
Congrats Daniel and family.You made a great decision.
Doesn't figure to faze him, either. Sorry; couldn't help myself.The young man is from Maine. A Chicago winter ain't gonna phase him.
Well upstate NY. But your point is goodThe young man is from Maine. A Chicago winter ain't gonna phase him.
He is matriculating at Gould Academy in Bethel, Maine.Well upstate NY. But your point is good
But he is from Troy NY. Just spent the last year in ME. And you could add that he plays for a MA AAU teamHe is matriculating at Gould Academy in Bethel, Maine.
what happened to our recent run up of 4 stars competing against primetime programs?
Seems like the program peaked out in recruiting after march madness but prior to last year's meltdown.
Maybe this kid is ascending but i doubt he was our first offers.
what happened to our recent run up of 4 stars competing against primetime programs?
Seems like the program peaked out in recruiting after march madness but prior to last year's meltdown.
Maybe this kid is ascending but i doubt he was our first offers.
Fantastic! Can he play in our opener next month?
what happened to our recent run up of 4 stars competing against primetime programs?
Seems like the program peaked out in recruiting after march madness but prior to last year's meltdown.
Maybe this kid is ascending but i doubt he was our first offers.
Wow. The most dickish post of the year.
Wow. The most dickish post of the year.
The young man's other offers consisted of UMass, St. Bonaventure, Boston U, Vermont and North Carolina A & T and isn't ranked nationally. Do those statements of fact offend you? It's perfectly reasonable to state that while you hope he's a "sleeper," this isn't the sort of recruit fans were anticipating by this point. The simple truth is that most recruits who have offer lists like that stay at that level rather than moving up to major conference level.
You can't put a lot of stock in highlight film, but I liked some things I saw in the highlights. He appears to have a nice handle (with both hands) and dribble routine. He doesn't appear to be an above-the-rim player.
... The simple truth is that most recruits who have offer lists like that stay at that level rather than moving up to major conference level ...
The young man's other offers consisted of UMass, St. Bonaventure, Boston U, Vermont and North Carolina A & T and isn't ranked nationally. Do those statements of fact offend you? It's perfectly reasonable to state that while you hope he's a "sleeper," this isn't the sort of recruit fans were anticipating by this point. The simple truth is that most recruits who have offer lists like that stay at that level rather than moving up to major conference level.
You can't put a lot of stock in highlight film, but I liked some things I saw in the highlights. He appears to have a nice handle (with both hands) and dribble routine. He doesn't appear to be an above-the-rim player.
All Collins recruits are kids who blew up after their junior year but were lower exposure guys. Even Nance and Kopp were not national recruits until after their a Junior years and Nance was never a national recruit because he did not play big time AAU. That’s the trend with recruiting and it continues this year. Buie had a really strong last AAU tourney and a crazy performance in the last game. His offers from Sienna and UMass - programs with better histories than NU - shows he’s the type of guy we can expect to get. Had NU not offered my bet is he would have not signed this fall and waited until the spring. But the bottom line is watch his tape from the spring and summer and it’s consistent with Collins players. Collins is still fighting to improve the overall athleticism of his team and he fits that bill. If he can defend and shoot that’s enough. If he can get into the lane off the dribble than it’s a big get for NU. NU is a developmental program right now.
No KiddingSo, in a "welcome to NU thread" we should focus on making an argument that the recruit isn't really that good?
Yeah, it's pretty offensive.
If you can lazily dig out his middling offers then you can also dig out that a few national recruiting analysts who said the kid is a completely different player than one year ago, and that he's a bit of bad ass and doesn't back down on the court from anyone. (He's also one inch taller and twenty pounds heavier than his profile).
I have no idea from watching his tape how the kid will play at NU. I just find it unfathomable (but not especially surprising) that NU fans would cast shade on a kid within the same fxxxing thread meant to celebrate what is a big milestone for him and his family.
No class.
No golf today? Go to Ryan Field, Dang It!!Let's stay positive with these kids
Collins has had mixed reviews in his recruiting hits and misses but what coach has not. I reviewed some of his tape and buie has a lot of upside. Collins will develop him and with two true lead guards in back to back classes this will put less pressure for buie to have manage the point
That’s another question. Developing players. He took an unheralding MAC and made a pretty good player. Lindsey had a good year. Neither consistently improved notably year over year. As I think, I don’t think we have an overperformer compared to expectations except MAYBE Mac.
Plenty underperformers or no improvement, I will save you the list. I complain about Cushing and Springer for failing to develop players, among other things, and I think you raise a valid discussion inadvertally. Has CCC demonstrated any evidence to develop a recruit beyond expectations to date? We know the are a few examples that go the other direction.
Pardon was not too highly rated, now is one of the better bigs we've had.
Also Sanjay, though not his recruit, developed nicely under him.
Not his recruit but olah improved a lot. Pardon has developed and added something every year. Bmac was an awful defender freshman year and improved there. Law has improved upon his game. Skelly added a new thing to is game each year as well. There's been improvments. Why can't he get credit for Lumpkin?That’s another question. Developing players. He took an unheralding MAC and made a pretty good player. Lindsey had a good year. Neither consistently improved notably year over year. As I think, I don’t think we have an overperformer compared to expectations except MAYBE Mac.
Plenty underperformers or no improvement, I will save you the list. I complain about Cushing and Springer for failing to develop players, among other things, and I think you raise a valid discussion inadvertally. Has CCC demonstrated any evidence to develop a recruit beyond expectations to date? We know the are a few examples that go the other direction.
Not his recruit but olah improved a lot. Pardon has developed and added something every year. Bmac was an awful defender freshman year and improved there. Law has improved upon his game. Skelly added a new thing to is game each year as well. There's been improvments. Why can't he get credit for Lumpkin?
What stats are you looking for? All you have to do is really look at tape and see the changes in their game. Defense is not really measured in stats. Just because you block a lot of shots doesn't make you a great defender. Same with steals you could be a poor defender but just play passing lanes well.Not ready to disagree but can throw down some stats to back up your contentions. And for Law, he was a 4 star and the expectations around this board were Jesus like. Check his preenrollment archives
You sure? That is a pretty high bar.Wow. The most dickish post of the year.
You're right, this is the most dickish post of the year:You sure? That is a pretty high bar.
Think James is considered a big man guru.What stats are you looking for? All you have to do is really look at tape and see the changes in their game. Defense is not really measured in stats. Just because you block a lot of shots doesn't make you a great defender. Same with steals you could be a poor defender but just play passing lanes well.
Specifics to look for in tape if you feel inclined.
Pardon- frosh to sophomore look at defense then sophomore to junior look at his post up game.
Skelly- I'm blanking on specifics up until senior year where he added a 3. (That man continually became a better role player though and if you want I'll watch tape and find specifics)
Bmac- although he never became a plus defender he did improve at that
Olah- the man's attidue and confidence went up under Collins. (Olah wasn't really meant for NU's style but he a serviceable center who played the pick a roll very smartly with Bmac)
Although I will say Collins and staff seem to be better so far at developing big men than anything else. (Not just saying that cuz of pardon but olah as well. Also Benson from the little we've seen him does seem to be improving as well)
What stats are you looking for? All you have to do is really look at tape and see the changes in their game. Defense is not really measured in stats. Just because you block a lot of shots doesn't make you a great defender. Same with steals you could be a poor defender but just play passing lanes well.
Specifics to look for in tape if you feel inclined.
Pardon- frosh to sophomore look at defense then sophomore to junior look at his post up game.
Skelly- I'm blanking on specifics up until senior year where he added a 3. (That man continually became a better role player though and if you want I'll watch tape and find specifics)
Bmac- although he never became a plus defender he did improve at that
Olah- the man's attidue and confidence went up under Collins. (Olah wasn't really meant for NU's style but he a serviceable center who played the pick a roll very smartly with Bmac)
Although I will say Collins and staff seem to be better so far at developing big men than anything else. (Not just saying that cuz of pardon but olah as well. Also Benson from the little we've seen him does seem to be improving as well)
Huh??Olajuwon was injured almost the whole last year, thus pardon.