2024-25 NET ratings thread

[CappyNU]

Not that this matters at all, but was curious how our non-con opponents have changed in Kenpom rank from the start of the season, to when we played them, to now:

Lehigh - 268>292
Dayton - 27>30>73
UIC - 222>181>123
E. Illinois - 332>344>330
Montana St. - 196>222>193
Pepperdine - 230>254>228
Butler - 83>69>80
UNLV - 93>102>100
Georgia Tech - 71>104>105
DePaul - 163>101>118
Northeastern - 210>156>204

I don't have any conclusions to draw from this 🤷‍♂️

 

[Davidgolds5]

2-8 Quad 1, 1-2 quad 2. You see that as a blind resume and you'd say that's a team that sucks. And would not guess a #57. It's the algorithms rewarding that, in most cases, we ketp it close. But overall, woof, 3-11 against quad 1 and 2. Bad.

Last year we had a very good record, but metrics were not great.

 

[Styre]

Another rough week for NU leaves us sitting at #56. We still have a good shot at the Crown tournament or the NIT but the NCAAs appear out of reach. Nonetheless, I will carry on with the resume updates.

QUAD 1 (2-8)
A #8 Purdue - L
H #12 Illinois - W
A #12 Illinois - L
H #15 Wisconsin - L
H #16 Maryland - W
A #18 Michigan - L
H #19 Michigan State - L
A #65 Penn State - L
A #67 Iowa - L
A #75 Dayton - L

QUAD 2 (2-3)
H #61 Indiana - W
H #69 Rutgers - L
H #71 USC - W
N #82 Butler - L
A #92 Washington - L

QUAD 3 (4-0)
N #106 UNLV - W
H #117 UIC - W
N #128 Georgia Tech - W
H #131 DePaul - W

QUAD 4 (5-0)
H #198 Montana State - W
H #209 Northeastern - W
H #229 Pepperdine - W
H #283 Lehigh - W
H #330 Eastern Illinois - W

This week features a Quad 1 road game at Oregon and a Quad 2 home game against Nebraska.

 

[Styre]

The season has fallen apart and at this rate we won't even make the conference tournament. NU now sits at #61 in the NET ratings, but still I continue to watch the resume. Rutgers has slipped to Quad 3 and is now officially a bad loss. Penn State is now a Quad 2 loss.

QUAD 1 (2-8)
H #12 Wisconsin - L
A #13 Purdue - L
H #14 Maryland - W
H #18 Illinois - W
A #18 Illinois - L
A #19 Michigan - L
H #21 Michigan State - L
A #32 Oregon - L
A #64 Iowa - L
A #74 Dayton - L

QUAD 2 (2-4)
H #46 Nebraska - L
H #57 Indiana - W
H #66 USC - W
A #78 Penn State - L
N #81 Butler - L
A #93 Washington - L

QUAD 3 (4-1)
H #80 Rutgers - L
N #108 UNLV - W
N #121 Georgia Tech - W
H #123 UIC - W
H #133 DePaul - W

QUAD 4 (5-0)
H #187 Montana State - W
H #208 Northeastern - W
H #243 Pepperdine - W
H #278 Lehigh - W
H #335 Eastern Illinois - W

This week features a Quad 1 road game at Ohio State.

 

[CappyNU]

The season has fallen apart and at this rate we won't even make the conference tournament. NU now sits at #61 in the NET ratings, but still I continue to watch the resume. Rutgers has slipped to Quad 3 and is now officially a bad loss. Penn State is now a Quad 2 loss.

QUAD 1 (2-8)
H #12 Wisconsin - L
A #13 Purdue - L
H #14 Maryland - W
H #18 Illinois - W
A #18 Illinois - L
A #19 Michigan - L
H #21 Michigan State - L
A #32 Oregon - L
A #64 Iowa - L
A #74 Dayton - L

QUAD 2 (2-4)
H #46 Nebraska - L
H #57 Indiana - W
H #66 USC - W
A #78 Penn State - L
N #81 Butler - L
A #93 Washington - L

QUAD 3 (4-1)
H #80 Rutgers - L
N #108 UNLV - W
N #121 Georgia Tech - W
H #123 UIC - W
H #133 DePaul - W

QUAD 4 (5-0)
H #187 Montana State - W
H #208 Northeastern - W
H #243 Pepperdine - W
H #278 Lehigh - W
H #335 Eastern Illinois - W

This week features a Quad 1 road game at Ohio State.

Appreciate you continuing this despite how things are going!

 

[Secho99]

Something I just noticed: If the season ended today we would not be in the Big 10 tournament.

However, we WOULD be in the College Basketball Crown as we currently have the second-best NET rating of conference teams projected to miss the NCAA tournament (top 2 NET not in the NCAAT are auto bids for the Crown):

10 teams are likely in.

Indiana is next and on the bubble, currently NET 57.
NU 62
Iowa 63 (before losing to Oregon tonight)
USC 65
PSU 80
Rutgers 81
Minnesota 89
Washington 94

It’s conceivable we could go 2-3, miss the BTT, and still end up with a better NET than the 6 teams below us. And if IU moves up to the tourney we’d only need to be ahead of 5 of the 6.

We also could go 0-5 and it’s moot but we’re shockingly close to postseason play as of today.

 

[Styre]

Well, there's a Quad 1 road win. Wow.

 

[Secho99]

Something I just noticed: If the season ended today we would not be in the Big 10 tournament.

However, we WOULD be in the College Basketball Crown as we currently have the second-best NET rating of conference teams projected to miss the NCAA tournament (top 2 NET not in the NCAAT are auto bids for the Crown):

10 teams are likely in.

Indiana is next and on the bubble, currently NET 57.
NU 62
Iowa 63 (before losing to Oregon tonight)
USC 65
PSU 80
Rutgers 81
Minnesota 89
Washington 94

It’s conceivable we could go 2-3, miss the BTT, and still end up with a better NET than the 6 teams below us. And if IU moves up to the tourney we’d only need to be ahead of 5 of the 6.

We also could go 0-5 and it’s moot but we’re shockingly close to postseason play as of today.

Following up on this:

Although the early stories/press releases about the College Basketball Crown mentioned NET as the criteria for the auto bids, the criteria for the two auto bids isn't posted on the tournament's site. The official site mentions that there are auto bids but does not say how they are awarded. So we may be assuming that NET is the deciding factor, but it also may just end up being who FOX most wants to be in it.

That said, this is a 16-team team tournament run by the Big 10's TV partner, and I saw someone put together a Crown bracketology (lol) and they literally had *every* Big 10 team that doesn't make the NCAA tourney in the Crown. The conventional wisdom seems to be that the NIT is going to get ACC and SEC teams as well as some mid-majors while the Crown is just going to fill its bracket with Big 10/Big East/Big 12 teams because those are the three leagues partnered with FOX for it and they have no incentive to invite teams outside of that pool.

 

[loyolacat]

what is the point? I guess now with NIL everyone wants to get their monies worth

 

[SimpsonElmwood]

Following up on this:

Although the early stories/press releases about the College Basketball Crown mentioned NET as the criteria for the auto bids, the criteria for the two auto bids isn't posted on the tournament's site. The official site mentions that there are auto bids but does not say how they are awarded. So we may be assuming that NET is the deciding factor, but it also may just end up being who FOX most wants to be in it.

That said, this is a 16-team team tournament run by the Big 10's TV partner, and I saw someone put together a Crown bracketology (lol) and they literally had *every* Big 10 team that doesn't make the NCAA tourney in the Crown. The conventional wisdom seems to be that the NIT is going to get ACC and SEC teams as well as some mid-majors while the Crown is just going to fill its bracket with Big 10/Big East/Big 12 teams because those are the three leagues partnered with FOX for it and they have no incentive to invite teams outside of that pool.

I was looking at this too. I've seen a Crown bracket forecast and it lists many B1G teams in, including Minnesota and Iowa. If the Cats can win those two, I don't see the B1G teams behind them in the NET passing them for #2 among those out of the NCAA tournament.

There's also the NIT, which cares a lot about ticket sales.