B1G to invite UNC, UVA, GT, Miami; SEC to offer Clemson, FSU; B12 gets Pitt, Louisville, NC State, Louisville
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Does SWAIM SHOW know things, or make up things? He reported it last night and nobody else is reporting it today.
He’s the Sir Yachty of 2023; he’s so accurate that @PURPLE Book Cat is jealous.
@CoralSpringsCat will also vouch for him.
The bigger coup is CatManTrue's great avatar that demands a look with its huge circled checkmark.
You have a keen eye, sir.
My preference for the next four are Notre Dame, Oregon, Washington, UNC.
If ND is out, I’d settle for Oregon, Washington, UNC, and Virginia.
Not a big fan of expansion though I agree with USC and UCLA joining the conference it makes sense to add at least Oregon and Washington to the fold. Oregon with Phil Knight’s financial backing has some of the finest athletic facilities in the country. My nephew is a Ducks alum and still lives in Eugene (I hope to visit again soon) and have been amazed at the quality of athletic events on campus across the board like track and field. I’ve also been to events at UW and some of the facilities downtown (my brother lived in Seattle and a friend’s daughter played on the UW women’s soccer team). Both schools are first rate and I would support them joining the BigTen. I don’t see how the PAC12 can survive with these 4 key schools leaving for the BigTen.
I love this. The goal is to hit the entire country. We increase academic prestige with AAU members UNC, UVa & GT. We add big cities in Atl and Miami. We add great brand names in UNC and Miami.
Adding UNC, UVa, GT and Miami brings B1G to 20. Seems like 24 would be right number to stop. If so, who would be next four? AAU = Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Wash, Oregon, Cal, Stanford. ND?
How great is this for NU? Duke is left out, and Stanford/ND path is unclear.
Adding UNC, UVa, GT and Miami brings B1G to 20. Seems like 24 would be right number to stop. If so, who would be next four? AAU = Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Wash, Oregon, Cal, Stanford. ND?
How great is this for NU? Duke is left out, and Stanford/ND path is unclear.
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Not so fast my friend!!! How in the name of gawd are we going to compete with the NIL money these powers have? Miami bought themselves a Final Four this year. NC's basketball players haven't gone to class in 30 years, and GT is currently willing to do anything to win. If we don't come into the "modern" NCAA world with cash we are toast!!! President and AD need to act now!!! Instead we get crickets. Effin' sad.
I'm just wondering how the heck big are these conferences going to get? Seriously what are we going to be in five years, The Big 38 or something like that? At some point don't you stop being a conference?
And keep in mind our other teams, the ones that lose money, have to travel to all these places.
Congratulations, you just obligated the Volleyball team to go to Miami each year, and the Iowa Hawkeyes Baseball team will have to fly to Atlanta and so on and so on.
Should we consider staring our own airline or something, I'm only half kidding.
And keep in mind our other teams, the ones that lose money, have to travel to all these places.
Congratulations, you just obligated the Volleyball team to go to Miami each year, and the Iowa Hawkeyes Baseball team will have to fly to Atlanta and so on and so on.
Should we consider staring our own airline or something, I'm only half kidding.
I’ve found myself English Premier League on weekend mornings this year, and quite enjoying it.
Even though NU wouldn’t stand to benefit, these super conferences should introduce a relegation/promotion model. Same scholarship rules, same bowl eligibility, but make every same matter (except the bottom of the bottom).
I would suspect the non-revenue sports would participate in a more regional division rather than having to fly across the county multiple times.
Although I think the tweet that started this thread is garbage, it seems clear the Big Ten and SEC are both hoping an NFL model will ultimately yield the highest revenue possible - basically cut 120+ programs in half to 32ish in each conference - for the outliers...good luck. I imagine Big Ten ultimately goes to the Fox family of networks, SEC to ESPN, and then Big 12, Pac-Whatever and others will fill in the blanks elsewhere.
I don't see CFB ever following a relegation model because too many "historical powers" want a guaranteed seat that the table and they already hold enough bargaining power to guarantee that.
One thing that remains to be seen: will Auburn fans (for example) adjust to the reality that 20+ years will pass with no conference title? And/or will grumbles get louder to go back to a league like the Big 12, that still has a pathway to a national championship? Or will division titles become the new conference title for people?
I don't see CFB ever following a relegation model because too many "historical powers" want a guaranteed seat that the table and they already hold enough bargaining power to guarantee that.
One thing that remains to be seen: will Auburn fans (for example) adjust to the reality that 20+ years will pass with no conference title? And/or will grumbles get louder to go back to a league like the Big 12, that still has a pathway to a national championship? Or will division titles become the new conference title for people?
The argument has been that we already capture the Pittsburgh and Philly TV markets with all of the PSU fans in each. So, Pitt wouldn’t add much to justify their piece of the pie.
If/when the ACC dissolves, Pitt will hope and pray for a Big 12 invite - Cincinnati & their old rival WVU are in it already, so why not.
Syracuse, Boston College, and the remaining ACC schools will also be hoping to land there.
Total respect for loyalty to NU, but Pitt football is sadly lacking in support in Pittsburgh. Pitt draws about 15k a game unless the opponent is PSU, ND, WVU, or the like.
I’m waiting for that Cal jerk fan droski to write that Cal will be replacing NU in the BigTen. (The Cal players are all *so* fast and athletically superior remember?)😊
Not sure where you got your info, but the lowest attended game at home last year for Pitt was 45k hosting duke (NU had under 25k hosting duke LY).
I agree though that Pitt games at the Steelers stadium do lack a good collegiate atmosphere.
No real good reason to add Pitt - not a national brand that would draw viewership and having PSU already covers the carriage fees, so would just split the pie into smaller pieces.
Adding GT hardly gives you the Atlanta market; its best argument is that the B1G adds a venue for B1G alums in the area to see games.
Along the same lines, a program like BC may get left out, unless the B12 is keen on gobbling all the leftovers from the ACC.
Adding GT hardly gives you the Atlanta market; its best argument is that the B1G adds a venue for B1G alums in the area to see games.
Along the same lines, a program like BC may get left out, unless the B12 is keen on gobbling all the leftovers from the ACC.
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If NU faced relegation in football, they'd end up in the SWAC.
And probably finish 5th.
Yeah, I mean just within the conference. But your point is well-taken, for now.
REVENGE WILL BE OURS!
Belief without evidence. Or, really, contrary to all evidence.
Why the hell would any NU fan be on board with any of this hyper expansion talk!? I know it is inevitable, but the whole thing will bring in a new era of NU football irrelevance quite possibly. Are there going to be 4 divisions, only 2? Or is it only going to be the top 4 teams going to a conference playoff? Whatever formula taken I don't think it bodes well for NU. The road to play in the conference title game gets exponentially more difficult. Sports is totally money driven nowadays. Who is going to bring in higher ratings/ money, USC or NU? I just don't see much hope in all of this for most of the founding programs of the B1G is the point, especially those in the West. I just hope I am proven wrong.
Anyone who follows conference realignment knows Greg Swaim is the worst source and is wrong 99.9% of the time. Everyone has regarded hin as a laughingstock for 10-12 years.
If someone is citing him, that person is obviously new to realignment.
If someone is citing him, that person is obviously new to realignment.
We are already hands down the worst program in the the B1G, that won’t change with expansion. Just the number of teams that will be better than us. Mind as well take in the $$$$
Yeah, this is clearly nonsense until at least one other source confirms any part of this.
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