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BC has Holy Cross 1 win away from NCAA

Nobody can doubt Collins' class...
Indeed Chris is all class. Now that Carmody is celebrating his ride into the "Dance", just maybe he could call and thank the kids and the NU Administration that hired him as HC and kept him in the spot for 13 years. Then NU will have their current classy coach and also have their last coach show some class as well.
 
If it's not a comparison, then WHY DID YOU MAKE THE COMPARISON???? Make up your f'n mind, olshin...
Because you keep making note of it. This is going to be a really circular argument and I don't really want to have it.
Anyway, of more relevance, what's your feeling on the Vegas 16? I'm totally in favor of playing (obviously if we don't get into the NIT)
 
Because you keep making note of it. This is going to be a really circular argument and I don't really want to have it.
Anyway, of more relevance, what's your feeling on the Vegas 16? I'm totally in favor of playing (obviously if we don't get into the NIT)

Anything for extra practices and a chance for Demps and Olah to play another game in a Wildcat uniform I support! :)
 
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But that's silly and completely irrelevant. The NCAA Tournament provides an opportunity for the champion of each of its Division 1 member conferences to appear in its tournament. To say they don't "deserve" it is flat out wrong. To say they're actually one of the best 68 teams in America is ALSO flat out wrong.

Of course, I would hope, that Big Ten basketball players would win the Patriot League easily. Of course, if we were in the Patriot League, who on our roster would still be on our roster?

I guess I am one of those few who thinks the NCAA tourney letting in losing teams from mid-majors over 20 win teams from Big 5s is a travesty. I get that this is the setup and that Holy Cross by virtue of winning it's conference tournament has "earned" it's right under these arrangements. I just think it's a waste. They have virtually no chance against whatever 1 seed they would face, and better for a worthy team that could give that 1 seed a game and a realistic chance to win to be invited instead. My 2 cents.
 
we went 8-10 in the Big Ten, check your fact

Don't be daft. Of course we went 8-10. 20-11 overall. That record is far better than the body of work that Holy Cross has delivered to date. They are in tourney only because of the tourney setup that allows unworthy "champions" from Podunk conferences to be part of the party.
 
I guess I am one of those few who thinks the NCAA tourney letting in losing teams from mid-majors over 20 win teams from Big 5s is a travesty. I get that this is the setup and that Holy Cross by virtue of winning it's conference tournament has "earned" it's right under these arrangements. I just think it's a waste. They have virtually no chance against whatever 1 seed they would face, and better for a worthy team that could give that 1 seed a game and a realistic chance to win to be invited instead. My 2 cents.

Really, your problem is with the conference tournaments. I agree with you there. The 20-win regular season champs should get in, not the .500 or below-.500 team that gets hot for 3-4 games. But, the conferences want that extra revenue and they have to give the little tourneys some real stakes or nobody would care at all.
 
Really, your problem is with the conference tournaments. I agree with you there. The 20-win regular season champs should get in, not the .500 or below-.500 team that gets hot for 3-4 games. But, the conferences want that extra revenue and they have to give the little tourneys some real stakes or nobody would care at all.

I'd be better with it. When people mention a Bucknell or a Lehigh pulling an upset, you're talking about a solid conference champ. No losing mid-major team is gonna beat a 1 seed. Ever.
 
I'd be better with it. When people mention a Bucknell or a Lehigh pulling an upset, you're talking about a solid conference champ. No losing mid-major team is gonna beat a 1 seed. Ever.

True. No 16 seed (which includes all losing mid- and low-major teams) will beat a 1 seed in my lifetime. Of that I am certain. And the Patriot League is not mid-major, they are low-major.
 
Don't be daft. Of course we went 8-10. 20-11 overall. That record is far better than the body of work that Holy Cross has delivered to date. They are in tourney only because of the tourney setup that allows unworthy "champions" from Podunk conferences to be part of the party.

You are making comparisons to Holy Cross. that has nothing to do with our situation. Bottom line is we finished 8-10 in conference, our conference. That is not good enough for the level we play at to get to the NCAA. And matter of fact the NCAA picks the NIT and we were not good enough to get a bid there either. Our non conference schedule killed us and inflated our record for a possible post-season berth. Our RPI and respect of the committee would have been better has we played a better non con schedule and even lost a couple of more games. We would be at least in the NIT.
 
Really, your problem is with the conference tournaments. I agree with you there. The 20-win regular season champs should get in, not the .500 or below-.500 team that gets hot for 3-4 games. But, the conferences want that extra revenue and they have to give the little tourneys some real stakes or nobody would care at all.
The Ivy League announced that they'd be holding a conference tournament for the first time starting next year, with the catch being that only the top four (of eight) teams qualify.

I have no idea what kind of money these small conferences make on hosted home games or neutral site early rounds, but this seems like a method that would ensure a top representative of the conference plays in the tourney, but also preserves (most of the) fun of the season-end tourney structure.
 
The Ivy League announced that they'd be holding a conference tournament for the first time starting next year, with the catch being that only the top four (of eight) teams qualify.

I have no idea what kind of money these small conferences make on hosted home games or neutral site early rounds, but this seems like a method that would ensure a top representative of the conference plays in the tourney, but also preserves (most of the) fun of the season-end tourney structure.

It is actually in the best interest of minor conferences (1 bid NCAA leagues) to have the regular season conference winner automatically invited to the NIT in the event that that team doesn't win the post-season tournament, since if they win both the conference probably won't get an NIT invite. These minor leagues must be thrilled when an upset occurs because they then place 2 teams in the post-season rather than just one. And the regular season champ in the NIT has a better chance of winning a post-season game than they do in most cases in the NCAA.
 
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