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The article you linked has its facts wrong.

It's true that Illinois was Chris Collins' first choice. But he didn't choose Duke because Lou Henson shut the door.

Collins asked to be compensated the same as Deon Thomas, a former Illinois Mr. Basketball already on the U of I roster. When Jimmy Collins offered less cash and no car, Collins turned him down, choosing education over financial enrichment.
 
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The article you linked has its facts wrong.

It's true that Illinois was Chris Collins' first choice. But he didn't choose Duke because Lou Henson shut the door.

Collins asked to be compensated the same as Deon Thomas, a former Illinois Mr. Basketball already on the U of I roster. When Jimmy Collins offered less cash and no car, Collins turned him down, choosing education over financial enrichment.
I love when I got someone beat....
 
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The "source" quoted in the article must be the same "source" that told you Collins wanted the Illinois job I guess. Fake News from 1991.
 
Fake News existed in 1991? I thought Trump invented Fake News.....

Fake News appears to be anything one does not agree with. If one does not agree with the past, Fake News. But the real question is why did they ever even feel the need to quote an anonymous source in an article about a high school kid's college choice in 1991.
 
NU can still be a world class university with a beautiful campus, awesome location and bright athletic future without degrading the University of Illinois and Chaimpaign to the point of making yourself look like a lunatic.

NU is a world-class university either way, so why not trash Danville's Big Ten Team?
 
Not much to add, how good a job is, is obviously subjective. But you guys should take it easy on trashing part of your state like it's a hellhole. It's just bad taste. It makes you guys look like especially blind haters when Champaign regularly ranks highly on top college town lists, and non-NU visitors regularly have a great time going out in CU and think the campus and facilities are pretty. Not to mention Bloomington-Normal is an awesome community to raise a family in.

NU can still be a world class university with a beautiful campus, awesome location and bright athletic future without degrading the University of Illinois and Chaimpaign to the point of making yourself look like a lunatic.

Speaking personally, I've walked Green Street at all hours and in varying states (personally partial to Brothers), and will attest that downtown Champaign is a perfectly fine place to have a meal and enjoy small-town atmosphere. But most of Illinois south of I-80 is a hellhole (personal experience from Kankakee to Cairo), and a NU win and Illinois loss means my teams have gone 2-0 each week. I come by my mostly tongue in cheek hatred of downstate and U of I honestly, and can't blame anyone who shares it.
 
"My quasi-professional athletes are better than your quasi-professional athletes! Na na na na NA!!!"
 
Not much to add, how good a job is, is obviously subjective. But you guys should take it easy on trashing part of your state like it's a hellhole. It's just bad taste. It makes you guys look like especially blind haters when Champaign regularly ranks highly on top college town lists, and non-NU visitors regularly have a great time going out in CU and think the campus and facilities are pretty. Not to mention Bloomington-Normal is an awesome community to raise a family in.

NU can still be a world class university with a beautiful campus, awesome location and bright athletic future without degrading the University of Illinois and Chaimpaign to the point of making yourself look like a lunatic.

Hilarious! It kills me how all of you assume some type of ownership rights for the entire state. I live in Illinois, so I have to support the beloved flagship? We should get all the top recruits in football and basketball because we are the state school. lol. Please don't trash anything in the state especially undesirable towns because you live in the state too!

This isn't 1980. The Illini have fumbled nearly every advantage they had over NU. It has been fumbled through a series of unfortunate hires and yes arrogance. What once was a monumental gap in results has swung in NU's favor and it's not changing anytime soon.

We still have a ways to go to be consistently relevant in basketball, but it is happening. We can't get the same quality of recruits in Basketball that Illinois can. UofI should be a B1G contender every year with the talent this state produces. The fact that they have landed very little of the Chicagoland talent in recent years shows how the mighty have become irrelevant, just like they always claim that the tiny school up north is.

It used to be the only games that interested me where they UofI games because that was "THE" game for us. We knew we would have a poor record, but maybe we could spring that one upset over the mighty Illini and all would be good for a few days. Now, it's not even in the top half of our games in terms of anticipation.

Better be careful or the same thing that happened in football will happen in basketball. We now have a far superior program that you are chasing to compete with. Until the administration and fans realize the state pride you extrol doesn't exist and you actually need to outwork other schools to remain competitive you will remain mired in mediocrity. Certainly offering 10 year olds football scholarships while ignoring offering top 10 players in state is not the way to build that orange and blue loyalty that you think we should all have because we live here.
 
State loyalty may not be unconditional, but all of us pay taxes that support the flagship University. My guess is that most NU grads living or raised in Illinois were pulling for the Illini in the 2005 NCAA Championship game.
As a current and long-time resident of the North Shore and Lincoln Park, I have been a season ticket holder of NU football and basketball for decades. I spent four years as an undergrad in CU, and like most of my classmates, I loved every minute of it. Evanston is terrific, but if you surveyed kids at both Universities, the U of I happiness meter is off the charts.
Northwestern is a fantastic University, although U of I has triple the number of Nobel Laureates that have been associated with the school. Football is still a disaster at UI, although I'm intrigued by Lovie. Basketball is another story, Groce was blip on a historical continuum that dates back to 1936. Every U of I coach from Mills to Weber had a 65% winning percentage or better with the exception of Harv Schmitt in the wake of the 67 "Slush Fund," (Gene Bartow was there for one year and left for UCLA).
Chris will sustain competence, if not excellence for as long as he stays at NU. The Illini and Cats will have competitive games next year, and I like the fact that it feels like a rivalry. We'll see if Underwood is as good as some national pundits say he'll be. The Illini lacked an identity under Groce, but Underwood's teams will play fast and tough in the mold of his mentor, Frank Martin.
As for the bashing Champaign takes from NU elites, consider that virtually every ranking of college campuses features them in the top 20. Business Insider, in its 2017 ranking listed it as #2.
2. Champaign-Urbana, Illinois — home of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Lastly, I have friends and relatives who have graduated from NU and they are all lovely. In fact two of my favorite employees are NU grads.


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University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Champaign-Urbana is one of the greenest cities in the US. However, it also offers a more urban feel than similarly-sized cities. Without many traditional suburbs, Champaign-Urbana is home to a developed urban setting surrounded by farmland and small farming villages. If you want the cultural offerings of a world class university town without the traffic, urban sprawl, and high cost of living, Champaign-Urbana is the place for you.

Traditional industries such as big farming and Kraft Foods split employment opportunities with a growing information and technology sector and the University itself. THe University of Illinois is one of the great public universities in the US, and many of the town’s arts, entertainment, and intellectual activities center around the school. A lively music scene, museums, festivals, and a number of theaters make sure you’ll have plenty to do in town.

Additional Information:
 
Hilarious! It kills me how all of you assume some type of ownership rights for the entire state. I live in Illinois, so I have to support the beloved flagship? We should get all the top recruits in football and basketball because we are the state school. lol. Please don't trash anything in the state especially undesirable towns because you live in the state too!

This isn't 1980. The Illini have fumbled nearly every advantage they had over NU. It has been fumbled through a series of unfortunate hires and yes arrogance. What once was a monumental gap in results has swung in NU's favor and it's not changing anytime soon.

We still have a ways to go to be consistently relevant in basketball, but it is happening. We can't get the same quality of recruits in Basketball that Illinois can. UofI should be a B1G contender every year with the talent this state produces. The fact that they have landed very little of the Chicagoland talent in recent years shows how the mighty have become irrelevant, just like they always claim that the tiny school up north is.

It used to be the only games that interested me where they UofI games because that was "THE" game for us. We knew we would have a poor record, but maybe we could spring that one upset over the mighty Illini and all would be good for a few days. Now, it's not even in the top half of our games in terms of anticipation.

Better be careful or the same thing that happened in football will happen in basketball. We now have a far superior program that you are chasing to compete with. Until the administration and fans realize the state pride you extrol doesn't exist and you actually need to outwork other schools to remain competitive you will remain mired in mediocrity. Certainly offering 10 year olds football scholarships while ignoring offering top 10 players in state is not the way to build that orange and blue loyalty that you think we should all have because we live here.

Most of this was just mindless hater speak, but I will respond to one part: a bad coach can't capitalize on good resources. John Groce was a bad coach. It remains to be seen if Underwood can, but I'm cautiously optimistic. If Underwood is actually as good of a coach as we think, then he will have Illinois back to being relevant.
 
Most of this was just mindless hater speak, but I will respond to one part: a bad coach can't capitalize on good resources. John Groce was a bad coach. It remains to be seen if Underwood can, but I'm cautiously optimistic. If Underwood is actually as good of a coach as we think, then he will have Illinois back to being relevant.

I think Brad will do a fine job and you'll be the first one back to tell us about it when he does.
 
State loyalty may not be unconditional, but all of us pay taxes that support the flagship University. My guess is that most NU grads living or raised in Illinois were pulling for the Illini in the 2005 NCAA Championship game.
As a current and long-time resident of the North Shore and Lincoln Park, I have been a season ticket holder of NU football and basketball for decades. I spent four years as an undergrad in CU, and like most of my classmates, I loved every minute of it. Evanston is terrific, but if you surveyed kids at both Universities, the U of I happiness meter is off the charts.
Northwestern is a fantastic University, although U of I has triple the number of Nobel Laureates that have been associated with the school. Football is still a disaster at UI, although I'm intrigued by Lovie. Basketball is another story, Groce was blip on a historical continuum that dates back to 1936. Every U of I coach from Mills to Weber had a 65% winning percentage or better with the exception of Harv Schmitt in the wake of the 67 "Slush Fund," (Gene Bartow was there for one year and left for UCLA).
Chris will sustain competence, if not excellence for as long as he stays at NU. The Illini and Cats will have competitive games next year, and I like the fact that it feels like a rivalry. We'll see if Underwood is as good as some national pundits say he'll be. The Illini lacked an identity under Groce, but Underwood's teams will play fast and tough in the mold of his mentor, Frank Martin.
As for the bashing Champaign takes from NU elites, consider that virtually every ranking of college campuses features them in the top 20. Business Insider, in its 2017 ranking listed it as #2.
2. Champaign-Urbana, Illinois — home of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Lastly, I have friends and relatives who have graduated from NU and they are all lovely. In fact two of my favorite employees are NU grads.


clip_image001.jpg


University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Champaign-Urbana is one of the greenest cities in the US. However, it also offers a more urban feel than similarly-sized cities. Without many traditional suburbs, Champaign-Urbana is home to a developed urban setting surrounded by farmland and small farming villages. If you want the cultural offerings of a world class university town without the traffic, urban sprawl, and high cost of living, Champaign-Urbana is the place for you.

Traditional industries such as big farming and Kraft Foods split employment opportunities with a growing information and technology sector and the University itself. THe University of Illinois is one of the great public universities in the US, and many of the town’s arts, entertainment, and intellectual activities center around the school. A lively music scene, museums, festivals, and a number of theaters make sure you’ll have plenty to do in town.

Additional Information:

Paying taxes doesn't equate to my fandom. Maybe we are different that way. However, we do have something in common as some of my favorite employees are lovely people that graduated from UofI.
 
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