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BREAKING: 3-star OL Gabe VanSickle decommits from NU
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Are you talking about the 2025 class? Aren’t we still recruiting for that? Wasn’t the 2024 class selected by PF and company but subsequently experienced predictable defections. I thought the OP spoke to 2025 commits.
I'm not really worried about recruiting; I'd have been far more concerned if Braun hadn't accomplished what he and the program have done to this point of the season.
Yeah we face a tough situation given what happened in the offseason and the overhang that it will likely leave for another year or so, and the stadium situation is a really difficult issue for the next 2 years, but the most important thing was Braun becoming HC and stabilizing the program. Once he has a full staff in place that he's comfortable with, I think he'll figure out the recruiting aspect of all of this in the same way that Fitz did.
Fitz's first couple of years recruiting were tough too, until he won plenty of games and got plenty of bowl bids, and the results speak for themselves. The quick turnaround and defensive results this season speak for themselves as well.
Braun comes off as a guy that players would want to play for; he'll figure out the HC's role in recruitment as well. Guys that players want to play for typically end up figuring it out.
Yeah we face a tough situation given what happened in the offseason and the overhang that it will likely leave for another year or so, and the stadium situation is a really difficult issue for the next 2 years, but the most important thing was Braun becoming HC and stabilizing the program. Once he has a full staff in place that he's comfortable with, I think he'll figure out the recruiting aspect of all of this in the same way that Fitz did.
Fitz's first couple of years recruiting were tough too, until he won plenty of games and got plenty of bowl bids, and the results speak for themselves. The quick turnaround and defensive results this season speak for themselves as well.
Braun comes off as a guy that players would want to play for; he'll figure out the HC's role in recruitment as well. Guys that players want to play for typically end up figuring it out.
And now you’re attempting to emphasize technicalities instead of actually dealing with the crux of my argument. Pretty lawyerly, I suppose.
Anyway, fun as this has been, I’m out. Happy Thanksgiving.
Hernia surgery yesterday so better than Jamo. I have moved into the consulting realm so I set my own schedule now. And sadly, not as high as I was yesterday.
You asked two “yes or no” questions. I answered no because the answer to both is no.
We are still actively recruiting the class of 2024, which can start signing on 12/20 during the ”early period“ (but when the bulk of signings really happen) or 2/7/24 during the “regular period” (the old Signing Day, but now much less typical to see a lot of signings).
VanSickle is a decommitment in the 2024 class. This entire discussion has pretty clearly been on the 2024 class/cycle.
So this was the path we were traveling. I didn’t read it to be about 2024 when the OP spoke to future classes to which you commented on the loss of momentum and then I referenced brauns recent signings (are they all 2024?)
Yes, all the recent commitments have been 2024s that can first sign in December 2023 (the class year is still based on the old “normal” signing period). The class of 2025 cannot sign until December 2024 and is the next cycle. Still very early in the 2025 cycle and we are understandably a bit behind in our work there.
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Ok - I misunderstood the recent verbals and visits. I thought they were for 2025 and 2024 would be filled with transfers.
“I thought [the recent verbals and visits] were for 2025 and 2024 would be filled with transfers.”
“No”
It’s just a roster crunch, as next year will the final ‘extra’ COVID year. So, I’d expect lots of productive seniors to get the offer to return.
In general, the developmental focus is on building a program around people that value that NU degree from the start, which has a huge effect on protecting NU from transfers.
I also think/hope the developmental focus has to include a revamp of the strength program. NU’s OL in particular has spent quite a bit of time recently being totally overwhelmed.
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That’s fine. At least we agree the lost of momentum, if it is a thing, is a one class thing
That’s fine. At least we agree the lost of momentum, if it is a thing, is a one class thing
Hopefully. Two nomadic years are gonna be tough.
Good luck with that. As is documented on these boards, our ability to get guys through the portal with our admissions department is pretty difficult. Especially with guys that have not graduated yet, And if they have we would usually only have them for one year. Makes putting together a team a lot more difficult than it is anywhere else
But it screws us. Especially with the earlier defections from the OL recruits, That is the area that is most concerning as it takes a couple years to get them to the point you get any production from them on the field
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He wants to be the ultimate developmental team because we really have no choice
We lost half of this years recruiting class, Some things are also affected by additional Covid year. They affect the size of this years class
Don't you get that we have an especially hard time getting kids through the portal? Especially undergrads? Look back a couple years and Mich State fielded a team that wa almost half transfers. We really cannot do anything like that
Reasonable but I have not heard of any such flexibility out of our admissions dept and it does not seem that any of the powers that be are willing to try to get them to move off of that
It is going to get a lot tougher going forward because of recruits lost out of 23 and 24 classes and portal losses
We were but we lost guys at the last minute out of 2023 class just as they were going to come on to campus and we have lost half of the guys in class of 24. First job for Braun was stablizing things and then to try to replace guys lost, I think 4 have been recruited in, But reality is guys we lost were descent P5 level and guys brought in since are probably MAC level (potentially ok developmental but not more ready to go like guys we lost). Nice guys to finish our a class but nothing to move the needle.
And the area of huge concern is the OL where we have lost 4 guys in two classes. Since they take so long to develop and we have so much trouble getting guys through portal, it could be a really lean period
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Sorry but not just one class.That’s fine. At least we agree the lost of momentum, if it is a thing, is a one class thing
Just because no one posted for a while. You broke it up so I cannot hit the record
