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Gerry led three major programs with the upmost class and decorum. No regrets on his part. He doesn’t need your accolades.
Nor will he get it from me. Look, I can take the good and the bad feedback, I think critical thinking is important. I simply won't fawn over his coaching career. My god you can say Tim Beckman reached the pinnacle of college coaching, but ya know.....lasagna???
 
Gerry led three major programs with the upmost class and decorum. No regrets on his part. He doesn’t need your accolades.

Class and decorum are important but by themselves they don’t make him a successful head coach as you contend.
 
“Without data, you're just another person with an opinion.” He got fired from all but Vanderbilt, i humbly disagree with you on his coaching acumen based on the data.
“In God we trust. Everybody else, bring data.”
-Bloomberg
 
Gerry is a great guy. He’d take his shirt off his back and give it to you if needed. I know he and Fitz are good friends through Barnett. Gerry was a great mentor to Fitz early on. There certainly isn’t any NU bias from Gerry.

Like I said-Gerry is a really smart football mind. His analysis is sometimes a little too advanced for the average fan to interpret.
Enlighten us.
 
“In God we trust. Everybody else, bring data.”
-Bloomberg
And how did Bloomberg fare in the democratic primary?

Dinardo is a great coach and three different schools saw that. If circumstances were different he could be doing what Saban is doing at Bama. Sometimes it’s just the way the cookie crumbles.

I can tell you first hand that Gerry is a great man. A true legend in this game.
 
And how did Bloomberg fare in the democratic primary?

Dinardo is a great coach and three different schools saw that. If circumstances were different he could be doing what Saban is doing at Bama. Sometimes it’s just the way the cookie crumbles.

I can tell you first hand that Gerry is a great man. A true legend in this game.
Bloomberg is worth over $50B. Who cares about politics? We’re here to talk football and the relevant data, sir.

I looked at Gerry’s record- he actually had a decent one at Vanderbilt, and then three good years at LSU.

After going 6-15 in his last two seasons there, he was fired 10 games into the 1999 season. He then went 8-27 in his three year stretch at Indiana from 2002-2004, where he went 0-3 against NU. Those were three close losses during the Colby era - so that might be why he’s salty against our cats, or perhaps his low opinion of Evanston is from playing at ND in the 70s when the Dark Ages started.

So if you stopped following his coaching performance after 1997, I could see why you’d think he’s a good-to-great coach. Unfortunately, the five seasons he was a college HC after that showed he was either mediocre - or possibly bad at it.

But hey, he parlayed those 8 wins at Indiana into a cushy TV job at the BTN. So he’s got that going for him, which is nice.

(Edit: he also went 2-8 as a head coach in the XFL in 2001 but who cares.)
 
And how did Bloomberg fare in the democratic primary?

Dinardo is a great coach and three different schools saw that. If circumstances were different he could be doing what Saban is doing at Bama. Sometimes it’s just the way the cookie crumbles.

I can tell you first hand that Gerry is a great man. A true legend in this game.
Please tell me you don't feel the same way about Lee Corso. Wildly unsuccessful coach that - in the case if Corso - holds onto a gig simply by being loud and obnoxious. To me, he's the gold standard is sh1t coach parlaying failure into success for no apparent reason or talent. Dinardo is head and shoulders better than Corso, I just want to know your standards
 
Agreed. I thought he was a decent coach as he established an incredible ground game in Minnesota. But I lost what respect I had for him when he openly lobbied for the OSU job while he was the head coach for the Gophers… and of course didn’t come close to landing it.
 
Please tell me you don't feel the same way about Lee Corso. Wildly unsuccessful coach that - in the case if Corso - holds onto a gig simply by being loud and obnoxious. To me, he's the gold standard is sh1t coach parlaying failure into success for no apparent reason or talent. Dinardo is head and shoulders better than Corso, I just want to know your standards
Give Corso this… he is entertaining compared to the average football talking head on TV. I for one am not surprised that he lasted so long in that role.
 
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Please tell me you don't feel the same way about Lee Corso. Wildly unsuccessful coach that - in the case if Corso - holds onto a gig simply by being loud and obnoxious. To me, he's the gold standard is sh1t coach parlaying failure into success for no apparent reason or talent. Dinardo is head and shoulders better than Corso, I just want to know your standards
I’m so with you. He is truly College Football’s poor man Vitale. IMO The only entertaining thing about Corso is his apparent senility and shouty confusion. If there was a way to bet whether or not he is sure what city he’s in every Saturday I would take the under.

When you make that comparison, it actually makes me fee
 
Give Corso this… he is entertaining compared to the average football talking head on TV. I for one am not surprised that he lasted so long in that role.
He is willing to wear a mascot head that may or may not have been washed in years, and shout about it? I guess that’s better than some others. Kinda risky this season for obvious reasons.
 
Let's not forget that Gerry is a Domer (who played for Ara), so not exactly in the interest of ND FB to see NU rise (not to mention those delicious wins in South Bend).


Gerry reached the height of his profession coaching three major programs. He now is the lead analyst for BTN.

Yes he’s a great coach and he’s been very successful. I have 1/10th of the success that Gerry had in live I’d be doing pretty good.

If that makes him a "great" coach - what does that make Fitz - godlike?



And how did Bloomberg fare in the democratic primary?

The stats (as much as polling data could be considered stats) showed that Bloomberg didn't have much of a chance.
 
I’m so with you. He is truly College Football’s poor man Vitale. IMO The only entertaining thing about Corso is his apparent senility and shouty confusion. If there was a way to bet whether or not he is sure what city he’s in every Saturday I would take the under.

When you make that comparison, it actually makes me fee
He's a buffoon, laughed at even by his cohorts on camera with him. Not laughed at as in 'this guy's funny", more like he, himself, is the joke. Bad coach, bad analyst, cringe-worthy. Further, his schtick becomes more extreme as he ages, to - somehow - maintain relevance. He's a sideshow, and an unfunny one.
 
He's a buffoon, laughed at even by his cohorts on camera with him. Not laughed at as in 'this guy's funny", more like he, himself, is the joke. Bad coach, bad analyst, cringe-worthy. Further, his schtick becomes more extreme as he ages, to - somehow - maintain relevance. He's a sideshow, and an unfunny one.
It is apparent his “cohorts” (good word) all like him. I, for one, like the mascot-head “schtick” (also a good word).
 
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He's a buffoon, laughed at even by his cohorts on camera with him. Not laughed at as in 'this guy's funny", more like he, himself, is the joke. Bad coach, bad analyst, cringe-worthy. Further, his schtick becomes more extreme as he ages, to - somehow - maintain relevance. He's a sideshow, and an unfunny one.

So, he's like college football's Dick Vitale
 
So, he's like college football's Dick Vitale
almost exactly. Two key differences. 1. I largely ignore MBB except for the Cats, and mostly a front-runner with them (so again, largely ignore). 2. If you do watch a game with Vitale - is he still working? - you can't ignore him unless on mute because he never, ever shuts up. Corso is a bit easier to ignore because you don't have to listen to him during an actual game. But, yeah, same person - failed coach, loud, obnoxious buffoon as an analyst.

you could throw Holtz in there, but he had actual success as a coach.
 
almost exactly. Two key differences. 1. I largely ignore MBB except for the Cats, and mostly a front-runner with them (so again, largely ignore). 2. If you do watch a game with Vitale - is he still working? - you can't ignore him unless on mute because he never, ever shuts up. Corso is a bit easier to ignore because you don't have to listen to him during an actual game. But, yeah, same person - failed coach, loud, obnoxious buffoon as an analyst.

you could throw Holtz in there, but he had actual success as a coach.

C'mon...people gotta stop with this "failed coach" thing. It's just silly and says more about the people saying it than the coaches. It's one thing to not like their media shtick (and that can be blamed on the producers of the show as much as the talent), but people who coach at that level for as long as those guys coached at that level are from failures.
 
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C'mon...people gotta stop with this "failed coach" thing. It's just silly and says more about the people saying it than the coaches. It's one thing to not like their media shtick (and that can be blamed on the producers of the show as much as the talent), but people who coach at that level for as long as those guys coached at that level are from failures.
You are right - I retract the coaching comment. He actually had a modicum of success at IU when it was a moribund program. (Edit - he followed John Pont - no further comment)


My memory of him was as a guy that lost to us in 82, got fired, slunk off to NIU for a year then was done. But he did ok before that. doesn't make him less of an obnoxious troll but, yeah, he did ok as a coach until the end.
 
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You are right - I retract the coaching comment. He actually had a modicum of success at IU when it was a moribund program. (Edit - he followed John Pont - no further comment)


My memory of him was as a guy that lost to us in 82, got fired, slunk off to NIU for a year then was done. But he did ok before that. doesn't make him less of an obnoxious troll but, yeah, he did ok as a coach until the end.

That is more like it. ;) I think he was already 50 when he left coaching and it feels like he has had a full lifetime in broadcasting (he's 86 and still giving it a go) since then.

It strikes me that you're just not a fan of the character he plays on TV. Totally get that. That character is a function of what works on TV. I suspect you weren't a huge Big & Rich fan on college football broadcasts either, but the loud, goofy clown is a popular character these days.
 
That is more like it. ;) I think he was already 50 when he left coaching and it feels like he has had a full lifetime in broadcasting (he's 86 and still giving it a go) since then.

It strikes me that you're just not a fan of the character he plays on TV. Totally get that. That character is a function of what works on TV. I suspect you weren't a huge Big & Rich fan on college football broadcasts either, but the loud, goofy clown is a popular character these days.
Yeah, he's just one of many that participate in shout-fests. I almost never watch the sports shows, they seem to feel like more is better, all the time. More people and louder people. Used to be 2-3 people was enough now it must be 4-7 people. Political news is worse, I can't even look at it.

Now - Hoos - we've agreed that he was a moderately successful coach; however, why do you suppose he never got re-hired? Seems like all teams ever do is rinse/repeat with former coaches. Mike Leach has had like 10 jobs, hasn't he?

I can't figure out how to link the image, but do a google image search of: lee corso good to see ya coach

My favorite pic of him should be the first image.
 
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Yeah, he's just one of many that participate in shout-fests. I almost never watch the sports shows, they seem to feel like more is better, all the time. More people and louder people. Used to be 2-3 people was enough now it must be 4-7 people. Political news is worse, I can't even look at it.

Now - Hoos - we've agreed that he was a moderately successful coach; however, why do you suppose he never got re-hired? Seems like all teams ever do is rinse/repeat with former coaches. Mike Leach has had like 10 jobs, hasn't he?

I can't figure out how to link the image, but do a google image search of: lee corso good to see ya coach

My favorite pic of him should be the first image.
Well...he did get hired twice after being escorted out of Bloomington, but no idea why he wasn't recycled more often. I think he found a pretty good gig a couple of years after the USFL and realized that his new career prospects were better than his old one's. However, FWIW, Mike Leach has "only" been a head coach at three schools and generally been escorted out of town for his eccentricities and despite his won-loss record (which has generally been an improvement on what came before him.)
 
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