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The ASUN team ran there offense to get young in screen rolls to attack him on switches.
He is going to struggle defensively. That's part of the game as well.
 
The ASUN team ran there offense to get young in screen rolls to attack him on switches.
He is going to struggle defensively. That's part of the game as well.
I am not sure where you are trying to go with this. Are there problems in RY’s game? Of course, there was the running joke around here asking if we had evidence he could dunk.

But a big man struggling with situations he will be beaten by faster players is not unusual. It’s something you minimize and live with. Comes with the the pluses. Zach Edey, Harrar or Hunter Dickinson have or had serious mobility issues. Just to name very recognizable names.
 
Just he is playing with a better coach and better issues but still having the same issues. Sometimes it's the player not doing what's expected.
 
Yeah, but he scored fewer points and had fewer boards than Ryan Young....
Young was 6 for 6 from the floor, played 32 minutes.
He played 32 minutes or more for NU twice in his 86 games.

5 offensive rebounds. (2 defensive).
2 assists.
3 steals.
2 turnovers.
3 fouls.

Young started next to 7'0" Kyle Filipowski and 6'8" Mark Mitchell.

7 guys played 21 minutes or more for Duke. Nobody else played more than 4 minutes.

Different philosophy I guess. Same player, though.
 
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Young was 6 for 6 from the floor, played 32 minutes.
He played 32 minutes or more for NU twice in his 86 games.

5 offensive rebounds. (2 defensive).
2 assists.
3 steals.
2 turnovers.
3 fouls.

Young started next to 7'0" Kyle Filipowski and 6'8" Mark Mitchell.

7 guys played 21 minutes or more for Duke. Nobody else played more than 4 minutes.

Different philosophy I guess. Same player, though.
And that right there is why I don’t have season tickets for the first time in 20+ years.
 
When Bakok was playing, Nance was at the 4 and looked lost.

Not saying Nance and Young were not good. But they were playing bad teams and young was being exploited in pick n roll. The other team was searching him out and

Games is more than points
 
When Bakok was playing, Nance was at the 4 and looked lost.

Not saying Nance and Young were not good. But they were playing bad teams and young was being exploited in pick n roll. The other team was searching him out and

Games is more than points
The company line is to use a rebounding stat as a measure of effectiveness on the defensive side of the ball, but the ability to stop penetration and alter shots rarely gets addressed. It’s not as pretty as putting the ball in the hole.
 
Bit misleading the "Nance is playing at the 5 for NC". He did, for a few minutes when Bacot got in foul trouble.

You know, not unlike what he could have done last year when RY got in foul trouble.
 
Bit misleading the "Nance is playing at the 5 for NC". He did, for a few minutes when Bacot got in foul trouble.

You know, not unlike what he could have done last year when RY got in foul trouble.
It was a bit tongue-in-cheek, yes, his main position was the stretch 4 but he did cover C for the few minutes Bacot sat in both halves. He got a ton of praise from the commentators throughout the game and played well defensively. I'm sure he's trying to find his place in the offense and adjusting to not needing to be the main scorer.

I'm very happy for both Nance and Young for what will likely be very successful years.
 
To be fair I am more of a defensive guy, so I watch those little things it does include rebounding that's what ends the possession To me that's what wins games.

So you could never play Young and Nance together. To me that more on Nance as he should be able to handle the 4.
 
He got a ton of praise from the commentators throughout the game and played well defensively. I'm sure he's trying to find his place in the offense and adjusting to not needing to be the main scorer.
He did play good defense. But he needs to find a more active role on offense. It was not different at NU when we all complained he needed to be more assertive on offense. Of course, the new guys on a team tend to start by wanting to show they are team players. Yet, he took only 3 shots in 34 minutes.
 
To be fair I am more of a defensive guy, so I watch those little things it does include rebounding that's what ends the possession To me that's what wins games.

So you could never play Young and Nance together. To me that more on Nance as he should be able to handle the 4.
Thought you were going to go on a pick and roll defense argument there.

But no, your argument appears to be you could not play our two best rebounders together because we would not rebound well.
 
You would Nance and young at the same time to defend the pick and roll. They would get killed. To slow a foot. Neither can hedge quick enough and the other in backside helped would be too slow.

The flex wisconsin runs they would have trouble as well.

Offensively the might by fine

But that what. Makes the world go runs everyone would run their team a different way..
I would take Nance and geronimo from Indiana together
 
Conference USA, in my opinion, has been underrated in recent years, especially the top 4 teams in the conference each season. Their automatic bid in recent years, although given a low seed (~13) in the NCAA Tournament, has frequently won their first-round game in the tournament. And these often were NOT the regular season champions. See UNT 2021, Marshall 2018, MTSU 2017, MTSU 2016, and UAB 2015 for seasons when the CUSA rep advanced past the first round. Note that MTSU 2017 was the only team that was also the conference champion.

So, I believe that the competition among the top four teams in CUSA is quite high and they have represented themselves well in the NCAA Tournament. The conference suffers in the computer rankings because the bottom 6 teams are typically atrocious and it drags down all the other teams in the computer rankings.

They are a 1-bid conference where any of the top 4 teams is usually capable of making some noise. The talent differential between the Big 10 and CUSA isn't as drastic as you would find in football, at least in the top half of the conference.
Conference USA (FAU) has another good showing in the opening round.
 
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Curious to get your impressions on the level of play in Conference USA versus the Big Ten - especially in the post.

My feeling is that, even if he is fundamentally solid and physically tough, we will be somewhat helpless under the basket if Verhoeven and Beran are trying to defend postups and keep opponents from getting to the offensive boards.

Additionally, if Verhoeven averaged 3 fouls in 25 minutes in C-USA, he'll be closer to 4 fouls in 20 minutes in the Big Ten, at least thats my concern.
Conference USA has just as many teams in the Sweet 16 this season as the Big Ten. With all the bids and favorable seeds, does the Big Ten just do less with more?

North Texas makes the NIT final four and UAB is still alive in the quarterfinals. What would one of them do with a ticket to the Big Dance?
 
Curious to get your impressions on the level of play in Conference USA versus the Big Ten - especially in the post.

My feeling is that, even if he is fundamentally solid and physically tough, we will be somewhat helpless under the basket if Verhoeven and Beran are trying to defend postups and keep opponents from getting to the offensive boards.

Additionally, if Verhoeven averaged 3 fouls in 25 minutes in C-USA, he'll be closer to 4 fouls in 20 minutes in the Big Ten, at least thats my concern.
So it would appear that Conference USA is still alive in the Elite Eight and the Big Ten is not.
 
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So it would appear that Conference USA is still alive in the Elite Eight and the Big Ten is not.
Conference USA is the new Mountain West. Unfairly ignored for several years. North TX has been a great program for years. UAB is solid.

So, probably in 3 or 4 years they will disappoint with multipole bids in the tournament.
 
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(fwiw I think the NCAA screws the lesser conferences every year)
The moment you do not automatically admit every conference winner to the tournament you will leave out multiple good teams. No doubt in my mind you are giving up upsets. And that's what fans live for in March.

But I'm sure the fan base of multiple power conference teams generates more money.
 
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The moment you do not automatically admit every conference winner to the tournament you will leave out multiple good teams. No doubt in my mind you are giving up upsets. And that's what fans leave for in March.

But I'm sure the fan base of multiple power conference teams generates more money.
Right its all about the money - not the basketball. I think thats a shame.

Memphis has a lot of talent on their team.. Sagarin had them ranked about 20th. They finished 2nd to Houston in the AAC with a 26-9 record. They beat Vandy, Auburn, VCU, Mississippi, Stanford, Nebraska and Texas A&M. They lost by 3 at Alabama. Lost by 1 to Seton Hall. Overall 6-3 against the Top 50.

Florida Atlantic was 29-3, runaway winners of Conference USA. They lost at Mississippi in their season opener, then won at Florida. Didn't play much outside their conference. Also won nearly every game they played.

So the NCAA tournament committee cheats Memphis with an 8 seed. They cheat FAU with a 9 seed. They make them play each other in the first round, thinking Purdue will beat the winner in Round 2 because.... the goofy NET system tells them so.

FAU beats Memphis 66-65 in a high-level game.

Happens every year. Same stuff every year. Pack the field with mediocre Power 6 teams.
Pair the good teams from the other conferences against each other.
 
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The moment you do not automatically admit every conference winner to the tournament you will leave out multiple good teams. No doubt in my mind you are giving up upsets. And that's what fans live for in March.

But I'm sure the fan base of multiple power conference teams generates more money.
I would love to see a system put in place where the regular season champions of small conferences that lose in their conference tournament prior to the championship game get a second chance at the tournament winner for the auto bid to the big dance.

This year, that would have given us matchups between Texas Southern and Alcorn State, Morehead State and SE Missouri St, Hofstra and Charleston, Northern Kentucky and Youngstown St, Eastern Washington and Montana St, UC Irvine and UC Santa Barbara, Southern Miss and Louisiana, Grand Canyon and Utah Valley. This gives some added value to the regular season championship since only 3 conferences do anything to protect their top seeds (West Coast, Southland and Ohio Valley).

Alternatively, would love to see the First Four expanded to the Early Eight and have 4 games each day in Dayton, where each 16-seed is a play-in from auto-bid conferences and some combination of 10, 11 and 12 seeds feature a matchup where one of the last eight in plays against the first four out and the top four regular season conference champs who didn't earn an auto-bid. This would have given us something like:

FDU vs Colgate, Texas Southern vs UNC Asheville, Texas A&M CC vs SE Missouri St, and Howard vs Northern Kentucky, along with Nevada vs Southern Miss, Arizona State vs Toledo, Pitt vs Bradley, Mississippi State vs Clemson, NC State vs Utah Valley, Providence vs Rutgers, Penn State vs Oregon, and USC vs Oklahoma State.

This allows for a)more games, which equals more money, b)greater chance for small-conference teams to earn official NCAA tourney wins, and c)less arguing about which bubble teams were more deserving along with giving strong small conference champions a chance to beat mediocre majors.
 
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