I wonder if Collins plans to redshirt him? He was last off the bench against Lewis and didn't play last night. Plenty of Guards ahead of him, could use the extra year if he sticks around in Evanston.
Parker Strauss.Clayton not playing last night in a blowout after the remaining bench was used sends a very clear message unless he was injured. Same status as the player who transferred after the season to a West Coast team (Name escapes me.). Collins wants the scholarship back.
I would highly doubt that Clayton will be with the 'Cats next year. I've seen enough of him to conclude that he's not a Big Ten player.Clayton not playing last night in a blowout after the remaining bench was used sends a very clear message unless he was injured. Same status as the player who transferred after the season to a West Coast team (Name escapes me.). Collins wants the scholarship back.
I think you're right. Clayton and Collins may even already talked about this. I bet Clayton will be a "break glass in case of emergency" player (like Blake Smith last year) but otherwise, Collins won't play him so Clayton could retain three years of eligibility at his next destination.I would highly doubt that Clayton will be with the 'Cats next year. I've seen enough of him to conclude that he's not a Big Ten player.
Parker Strauss. Barkley didn't play at all last year either and took the shirt. Clayton probably would have too if they hadn't had the Ty injury.Same status as the player who transferred after the season to a West Coast team (Name escapes me.). Collins wants the scholarship back.
Strauss transferred to UC Riverside. They lost to Oregon by 15 last night, played ten players, and Strauss did not see the floor.Parker Strauss. Barkley didn't play at all last year either and took the shirt. Clayton probably would have too if they hadn't had the Ty injury.
I assume you mean 2023? 2024 is going to be good.The 2024 recruiting class looks like a washout
Yes. I will go back and correct it.I assume you mean 2023? 2024 is going to be good.
Parker Strauss did not play for UC-Riverside against Oregon. 10 guys saw the court for his team. Not sure if he is injured.
As a reformed critic of the reformed Chris Collins, that 2023 class is not his. It belongs to Gragg.
Its an outlier for Collins and it was Gragg's fault.
(But the old Collins still owns those minutes when Barnhizer was watching Casey Simmons play.)
Barkley seems like he should be able to contribute. He is not afraid.
Clayton? The +/- stats were flashing red very early last season.
Those numbers really haven't been wrong yet.
It pains me to agree with this. But I think this is the correct take.I would highly doubt that Clayton will be with the 'Cats next year. I've seen enough of him to conclude that he's not a Big Ten player.
Collins confused me a few weeks ago by saying some positive things about Clayton and the progress he'd made in the offseason.It pains me to agree with this. But I think this is the correct take.
Given the 2025 class, and the 2024 freshmen, it's tough to imagine Clayton having any interest in sticking around. The only way that Clayton is going to see much, if any, playing time, is if we have a couple of injuries, and there is really no future in sitting and waiting for injuries. He's much better off if he moves on and gets out of the Big Ten. I suspect that the decision has already been made by Clayton and Collins based on the opening game. Did Clayton have other offers out of high school? Too lazy to look it up.My understanding is that Clayton was supposed to red shirt last year, but got called up in the wake of the injuries. It seems reasonable that Collins may want him to red shirt this year instead, and we'll see how Clayton feels about that.
16 other offers, mainly in the northeast, plus one from Cal. Visited UMass, BU and Rhode Island. He wasn't a bad prospect, just didn't pan out for NU.Did Clayton have other offers out of high school? Too lazy to look it up.
If I'm Clayton, I stay at NU.Given the 2025 class, and the 2024 freshmen, it's tough to imagine Clayton having any interest in sticking around. The only way that Clayton is going to see much, if any, playing time, is if we have a couple of injuries, and there is really no future in sitting and waiting for injuries. He's much better off if he moves on and gets out of the Big Ten. I suspect that the decision has already been made by Clayton and Collins based on the opening game. Did Clayton have other offers out of high school? Too lazy to look it up.
You repeatedly say this but Barnhizer had a broken foot his 1st year. He was not fully heathy his first year.I assume you mean 2023? 2024 is going to be good.
Parker Strauss did not play for UC-Riverside against Oregon. 10 guys saw the court for his team. Not sure if he is injured.
As a reformed critic of the reformed Chris Collins, that 2023 class is not his. It belongs to Gragg.
Its an outlier for Collins and it was Gragg's fault.
(But the old Collins still owns those minutes when Barnhizer was watching Casey Simmons play.)
Barkley seems like he should be able to contribute. He is not afraid.
Clayton? The +/- stats were flashing red very early last season.
Those numbers really haven't been wrong yet.
You mean they wouldn't Vassar him?I'm assuming our coaches wouldn't make him suffer for staying.
After all, we made a commitment.
Even if he's super stubborn, I would hope Collins learned from that experience and figured out a better way to do it since then.You mean they wouldn't Vassar him?
I hear what you're saying and I believe it will largely be about how he and Collins talk about it, and what Collins tells him. The most obvious path for him forward was getting good enough to win minutes on the floor. If Collins doesn't think he got that done in the off season and tells him that, I can see Clayton red shirting the season to save that year of eligibility. If this is the case, riding the pine for an entire season when everyone knows he's leaving will be a true test of Clayton's character.Given the 2025 class, and the 2024 freshmen, it's tough to imagine Clayton having any interest in sticking around. The only way that Clayton is going to see much, if any, playing time, is if we have a couple of injuries, and there is really no future in sitting and waiting for injuries. He's much better off if he moves on and gets out of the Big Ten. I suspect that the decision has already been made by Clayton and Collins based on the opening game. Did Clayton have other offers out of high school? Too lazy to look it up.
I didn’t see Clayton looking disinterested at all. In fact, when Barkley scored he went wild. Same with Fitz and even Angelo. Had a bias towards the bench players, maybe, but certainly not disinterested.Collins confused me a few weeks ago by saying some positive things about Clayton and the progress he'd made in the offseason.
He made it sound like Clayton was the #3 guard - or at least that was my fear.
Yesterday Clayton looked disinterested sitting on the bench (I was directly across) and either he's in the doghouse or Collins was just being nice to a guy he's given up on.
Unless he really hates/resents Northwestern (and I have no reason to believe that), I don't know how anybody in his position could watch that game and be disinterested. A front-row seat to watch your brothers slaughter another team? That would be super fun. I didn't see anything unusual about how he reacted or didn't react, but then again I don't usually watch the guys on the bench.I didn’t see Clayton looking disinterested at all. In fact, when Barkley scored he went wild. Same with Fitz and even Angelo. Had a bias towards the bench players, maybe, but certainly not disinterested.
Thanks.16 other offers, mainly in the northeast, plus one from Cal. Visited UMass, BU and Rhode Island. He wasn't a bad prospect, just didn't pan out for NU.
I really can't agree with this. Players want to play, and many other universities offer excellent academic opportunities. We've been critical in the past of players' transferring to schools that don't have the academic chops of NU. Obviously, I know nothing about Clayton personally, and I have no doubt that he's a fine young man, but who would want to stick around for 3 more years to ride the pine? In my mind, the only players who would do that are those who have come to grips with the fact that they are not going to become good college basketball players.If I'm Clayton, I stay at NU.
Assuming he can handle the academics, he'd be foolish to leave - unless an Ivy came calling.
I'm assuming our coaches wouldn't make him suffer for staying.
After all, we made a commitment.
Don't worry though, the NCAA is adding two more scholarships in 2025 in its unrelenting quest to destroy the mid-majors and below.
You repeatedly say this but Barnhizer had a broken foot his 1st year. He was not fully heathy his first year.
A mature response to being directly told you aren't developing enough, have been passed by younger players, and should strongly considering transferring... but are also free to enjoy your redshirt year to preserve eligibility and practice with the team to improve... is to stew for a bit, then work hard in practice and even ask Collins if he has any recommendations which coaches he might reach out to (in football, at least, it's becoming increasingly common at the FCS level for coaches to have co-recruitment networks where Power 4 coaches will call FCS coaches and say "hey I have a kid who isn't making it here but he'd be a good fit with your system and I gave him your name" and for the inverse to happen, for those same FCS coaches to call the same P4 coaches and say "hey, I've got a kid who is gonna transfer away from me, he's a fit for you." I know this is happening with hoops as well.)I hear what you're saying and I believe it will largely be about how he and Collins talk about it, and what Collins tells him. The most obvious path for him forward was getting good enough to win minutes on the floor. If Collins doesn't think he got that done in the off season and tells him that, I can see Clayton red shirting the season to save that year of eligibility. If this is the case, riding the pine for an entire season when everyone knows he's leaving will be a true test of Clayton's character.
I didn’t see Clayton looking disinterested at all. In fact, when Barkley scored he went wild. Same with Fitz and even Angelo. Had a bias towards the bench players, maybe, but certainly not disinterested.