Collins needs to go now.
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and he was in for all of our losses! Also last year's ! This is statistically significant data!
I’m still stupefied by that offensive scheme in the second half and the inability to attack that zone. That is basic stuff.
I am equally flummoxed that with all of the coaches sitting over on the side, no one instructed our kids to do something different, like pass the ball around.
What in god’s green earth was that?
Basically a 6’10” 3 point shooter. Soft as a spunge.
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Mulcahy tore us up but let's not pretend that he's some superstar. He had 64 total points in 10 B1G games this year coming into this game, and was shooting 37%. In 79 games before this his career high was 15 points. He was great in this game but he's not the missing piece to us being a tournament team.
First - I would much rather be this form of “loser” than your form. When your intelligence runs out, as it too often does, you resort to insults. Hope you didn’t teach that to your kids.Gordie trying to find the right combination of obscure stats to justify Collins keeping his job:
Second - I’d like to mention some things that have not been emphasized by all, recognizing that the Rutgers second half was abysmal and I thought the team would lose in OT.
- they didn’t lose. They showed great resolve and character to not fold in OT.
- let’s not forget that we do get out to these leads. That’s no small feat. Reversion to the mean is real in almost all games. Teams make runs. Momentum exists.
- the numbers do support Collins’ progress, as I indicated in a separate post. My additional analysis (I can already hear the derisive tone) shows that this year’s team is WAY more competitive than any prior team except for the NCAA team, and more so than Carmody’s.
- we are playing against many of the same guys from prior years. Kofi, Liddell, Edey, Harrar, etc. With the exception of Ayo from UI and Young from Rutgers (and we’ll see with Minn being a lot of new players and Iowa without Garza), this is still the same tough BigTen. If we did not have enough talent in recent years, we don’t have enough this year either (other guys progress too). Our increased competitiveness is progress.
- I wish we could just jump from being bad to winning all of our games, but it’s not reality. We are underperforming this year on W/L for sure, but to think we need to now fire Collins because we don’t have two more wins right now seems illogical and overly emotional.
- Greer could run the zone offense effectively; why can’t other guys? That’s not the coaches.
- We had 21 turnovers. 7 by Audige; 6 by Nance. Two of our three best players. Some will somehow blame that on the coaches. What players ever blame the coaches for their mistakes?
- We have depth. Collins is trying to leverage that. If we played certain guys more and subbed less (which would alleviate this “insane” amount of subbing people seem to want to complain about) we’d be losing that advantage. And since we are less talented to begin with, that’s not a logical thing to do. It’s also a long season; how many years did we fold in the end (especially under Carmody) because our players were exhausted? Ours look pretty fresh right now.
- Providence and Wake - still look like very good losses.
Collins can do better as well, for sure. That half was miserable and his adjustments didn’t help. If we see any sign the guys start to lose faith in him or themselves, I’ll change my tune. But otherwise, I won’t think he should be fired for fielding the most competitive team we have ever had.
Go Cats!
Why are you calling yourself a loser? I made no mention of the word in my post 🤣🤣🤣
Yah - your intentions were so flattering to me - how did I miss that
South Dakota, I turned to my friend at the game before we went to overtime and said i thought NU had zero chance to win in the extra session. Rutgers took their only lead of the night right away and i said "here we go" and then, lo and behold, they pulled the game out. Like the Maryland loss where they almost had a miracle finish, this team has not quit on their coach and I won't quit on them either.
Mulcahy has helped RU win a lot of games and was a key contributor even as a true freshman for them.
He absolutely would have helped us win a number of these close games that we’ve lost. He’s not a huge scorer, but is a key playmaker, ball handler, and leader for that team. Admissions F’ed us on that one.
Maybe you don't remember this, but last season was a disaster.
So people were upset.
Please. You didn't think he did a good job the year we went to the tournament. You said he lost the team last year. It is possible that you might be a little biased? Just a wee bit?
We lost a bunch of close games last year against ranked opponents, won a game in the BIG tournament and finished 7 and 13 in the conference. By Northwestern standards, that is not a disaster. The past 2 football season were disasters. When we won 3 conference games in two seasons under Carmody, that was a disaster.
The level of anger directed at last year's team amazes me. They had their chances to win 6 or 7 games in the last few minutes and pretty much lost all of them. They played hard and put themselves in a position to win games. We didn't have any 30-point blow-out games last year until Iowa. We didn't lose because we were soft or poorly coached. We lost because other teams made big shots at the end of games and we didn't. Some of if was just bad luck, some of it was guys choking a little, some of it was that the other team had better players, and some of it was coaching. Some of it (I think a fair amount) was Audige being injured and hurting the team offensively. If Audige doesn't score 10 points in the last few minutes against Purdue, we don't upset them. If Buie doesn't hit two huge shots at the end of the Indiana game, we don't beat them.
Why do so many people need a villian for last year's disappointing season? They played hard against some really good teams.
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