Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

This story is on the ESPN website...

Utah St. informs football coach of intent to fire

Utah State said football coach Blake Anderson has been told he'll be fired for alleged noncompliance of Title IX policies, with Nate Dreiling named interim coach.

www.espn.com

Apparently somebody associated with the Utah State football team was accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence in Spring of 2023.
The head coach was made aware of the problem.
The coach investigated.
He appears to have not reported the allegations to the school in a timely manner.
Both "investigating" and "not reporting" violate university policy.
An external investigation was conducted.

The university notified the coach of their intent to fire him, but gave him 14 days to respond, in accordance with his employment agreement.
The Deputy athletic director and director of player development were also fired. Presumably they were part of the cover-up.
The defensive coordinator has been named interim coach for the 2024 season.
Athletic Director Diana Sabau met with the team and the football staff Tuesday to inform them of the news.
(apparently she addressed the team in her human form, not her digital form)

Its pretty sad that we are clowns compared to Utah State.

 

[NUChicago]

This story is on the ESPN website...

Utah St. informs football coach of intent to fire

Utah State said football coach Blake Anderson has been told he'll be fired for alleged noncompliance of Title IX policies, with Nate Dreiling named interim coach.

www.espn.com

Apparently somebody associated with the Utah State football team was accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence in Spring of 2023.
The head coach was made aware of the problem.
The coach investigated.
He appears to have not reported the allegations to the school in a timely manner.
Both "investigating" and "not reporting" violate university policy.
An external investigation was conducted.

The university notified the coach of their intent to fire him, but gave him 14 days to respond, in accordance with his employment agreement.
The Deputy athletic director and director of player development were also fired. Presumably they were part of the cover-up.
The defensive coordinator has been named interim coach for the 2024 season.
Athletic Director Diana Sabau met with the team and the football staff Tuesday to inform them of the news.
(apparently she addressed the team in her human form, not her digital form)

Its pretty sad that we are clowns compared to Utah State.

Pretty much, thank god Gragg has been removed from command.

 

[curdog]

This story is on the ESPN website...

Utah St. informs football coach of intent to fire

Utah State said football coach Blake Anderson has been told he'll be fired for alleged noncompliance of Title IX policies, with Nate Dreiling named interim coach.

www.espn.com

Apparently somebody associated with the Utah State football team was accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence in Spring of 2023.
The head coach was made aware of the problem.
The coach investigated.
He appears to have not reported the allegations to the school in a timely manner.
Both "investigating" and "not reporting" violate university policy.
An external investigation was conducted.

The university notified the coach of their intent to fire him, but gave him 14 days to respond, in accordance with his employment agreement.
The Deputy athletic director and director of player development were also fired. Presumably they were part of the cover-up.
The defensive coordinator has been named interim coach for the 2024 season.
Athletic Director Diana Sabau met with the team and the football staff Tuesday to inform them of the news.
(apparently she addressed the team in her human form, not her digital form)

Its pretty sad that we are clowns compared to Utah State.

Sounds like there was due process here. How refreshing.

 

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

Sounds like there was due process here. How refreshing.

The only thing that Utah State has/did wrong is that one of the reasons they're firing the head coach is that he had the audacity to look into the allegations on his own.

Having rules that prohibit such fact-finding attempts is directly counter to the argument "he should have known." You can't have it both ways - either the coach gets to look into the allegations or you can't use that pathetic "he should have known" argument.

 

[NUCat320]

The only thing that Utah State has/did wrong is that one of the reasons they're firing the head coach is that he had the audacity to look into the allegations on his own.

Having rules that prohibit such fact-finding attempts is directly counter to the argument "he should have known." You can't have it both ways - either the coach gets to look into the allegations or you can't use that pathetic "he should have known" argument.

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

This story is on the ESPN website...

Utah St. informs football coach of intent to fire

Utah State said football coach Blake Anderson has been told he'll be fired for alleged noncompliance of Title IX policies, with Nate Dreiling named interim coach.

www.espn.com

Apparently somebody associated with the Utah State football team was accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence in Spring of 2023.
The head coach was made aware of the problem.
The coach investigated.
He appears to have not reported the allegations to the school in a timely manner.
Both "investigating" and "not reporting" violate university policy.
An external investigation was conducted.

The university notified the coach of their intent to fire him, but gave him 14 days to respond, in accordance with his employment agreement.
The Deputy athletic director and director of player development were also fired. Presumably they were part of the cover-up.
The defensive coordinator has been named interim coach for the 2024 season.
Athletic Director Diana Sabau met with the team and the football staff Tuesday to inform them of the news.
(apparently she addressed the team in her human form, not her digital form)

Its pretty sad that we are clowns compared to Utah State.

Yeah… that’s basic procedural HR stuff that NU apparently couldn’t be bothered to do, now will cost millions.

 

[curdog]

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

I’m not really interested in the particulars of the case. Im looking at how the administration handled the situation. That’s where is NU is a clown show

 

[gocatsgo2003]

The only thing that Utah State has/did wrong is that one of the reasons they're firing the head coach is that he had the audacity to look into the allegations on his own.

Having rules that prohibit such fact-finding attempts is directly counter to the argument "he should have known." You can't have it both ways - either the coach gets to look into the allegations or you can't use that pathetic "he should have known" argument.

Internal rules are usually pretty cut and dried when it comes to accusations of sexual misconduct: report to Title IX. Do not pass Go, do not hesitate, that’s not your job.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

The “clown show” part is that USU knew how to properly meet their contractual notification obligations to mitigate exposure vs. NU that did not and opened itself to tens of millions of dollars in damages as a result.

 

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

As others pointed out - the clown show was the handling of the Fitzgerald termination.

USU did a much better job. No sordid rumors to drag the whole program through the mud, no attempt to shame the coach or former players, none of the BS that Schill and Gragg perpetrated.
As far as I know, the student newspaper was not involved.
All we know is that the USU head coach was aware of an incident involving either domestic violence or sexual misconduct and someone associated with the team. It may have been a player, it may have been one of the guys who got fired. The head coach did some sort of investigation and didn't report the incident properly. So USU intends to fire him, after he gets 2 weeks to make his case.

 

[NUChicago]

As others pointed out - the clown show was the handling of the Fitzgerald termination.

USU did a much better job. No sordid rumors to drag the whole program through the mud, no attempt to shame the coach or former players, none of the BS that Schill and Gragg perpetrated.
As far as I know, the student newspaper was not involved.
All we know is that the USU head coach was aware of an incident involving either domestic violence or sexual misconduct and someone associated with the team. It may have been a player, it may have been one of the guys who got fired. The head coach did some sort of investigation and didn't report the incident properly. So USU intends to fire him, after he gets 2 weeks to make his case.

It amazes me how "smart" NU thinks they are, yet they are quite the opposite. NU demands so much of student applicants who want to attend NU, but they have some BS leadership. Thank god Gragg has been put in a corner, but there are plenty of others that need to go.

 

[CMcCat]

I wonder how much the ideological context of the two universities played in how they handled the issues they faced. USU is a state school in Utah. I expect there not to be the same attitudes with respect to the football program as those lurking at NU. Schill seemed to get rolled by his faculty.

 

[Eurocat]

That's the coach that quit at Wisconsin after some success because he found it "too tough to recruit" there.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

I wonder how much the ideological context of the two universities played in how they handled the issues they faced. USU is a state school in Utah. I expect there not to be the same attitudes with respect to the football program as those lurking at NU. Schill seemed to get rolled by his faculty.

That’s besides the point. Both USU and NU ended up firing their coaches, but USU did the basic HR “blocking and tackling” correctly so they don’t have the same massive liability as NU.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

That's the coach that quit at Wisconsin after some success because he found it "too tough to recruit" there.

This is false. The USU Coach is Blake Anderson. He replaced Gary Anderson who was the former Coach of Wisconsin. You got your Anderson’s mixed up.

 

[its_the_sauce]

If you really want juicy start looking at Syracuse WLAX coach's situation

 

[techtim72]

That’s besides the point. Both USU and NU ended up firing their coaches, but USU did the basic HR “blocking and tackling” correctly so they don’t have the same massive liability as NU.

It is absolutely mind boggling that a senior manager at NU did not follow what undoubtedly is a well defined HR process and I cannot imagine that any attorney would advise him to do otherwise.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Pretty much, thank god Gragg has been removed from command.

But Schill is the one who decided to ignore Fitz's contract.

 

[Eurocat]

Oopsie!

But at least give me this, "my" Anderson was the FORMER coach at Utah State. But my bad, I did mix the two up. Nice catch!

Why did former Utah State coach Gary Andersen reemerge at BYU spring camp?

Former Utah State head coach Gary Andersen has reemerged during BYU’s spring practices

www.sltrib.com

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