We needed to do something to shake things up. And I think the OC and DC were probably not very good. But I watched plenty of our games and just don't see any real talent. You can only call plays and scheme so much as a coach. In the end, the guys on the field are the ones who actually play the game, and they just don't have any talent and ability. Firing the coaches won't change that unless whoever we bring in can recruit higher caliber talent....
Firing the coaches was probably reasonable, but won't fix the lack of talent
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Our recruiting rankings are pretty consistent. We get top 60 classes, which is why, when Fitz has us ranked, announcers talk about how he does so much with so little. There has been some net loss in the portal, but not enough to move us from, say, 20th-35th in a normal Fitz year to 120th. We are back to Interstate 294, Northwestern zero.
It's the coaching and inability to recruit and develop QBs (also coaching)
It's the coaching and inability to recruit and develop QBs (also coaching)
We certainly have recruited talent judging by the competing offers. The problem seems to be game experience. Happy to see a few new faces in the last game, but far too few minutes and under ridiculous and hopeless conditions. If the season is lost, what about managing for meaningful experience for all the young ones. Coaches should be thoughtful and intentional.
Starting Freeman wasn’t particularly thoughtful or strategic, though maybe they were all just too overwhelmed with despair to think clearly. /s
Starting Freeman wasn’t particularly thoughtful or strategic, though maybe they were all just too overwhelmed with despair to think clearly. /s
Clearly you didn't watch any of the games or have any football knowledge. Our receivers could not gain any separation at all, the OL couldn't give the QB more than 1 second to drop back, our Linebackers couldn't tackle or take proper angles. This speaks to talent and ability. Not scheme or play calling.
Such a stupid statement...
“Couldn’t give the QB more than 1 second to drop back”
Another really intelligent statement. But I’m the one who doesn’t have any football knowledge.
Evan Hull for starters, NU has plenty of talent, but bad coaching. has suppressed that.
Can we shut up already about the talent? We didn't lose to SIU or Miami OH (and their 2nd string QB who couldn't hit the side of a barn) because of a talent gap. We've outrecruited Duke and Illinois over the past 4 years, and both of them won 8 games and are bowling. Illinois does not have a single player on the team who spurned NU for them (unless you count Terah) and yet with the introduction of competent coaching churned out the team that beat the eff out of us and if they win their bowl will finish ranked.
Bitch if you want about talent and a gap as to why we can't beat Ohio State, but talent is no excuse for losing 11 games, when we've won the West and beat teams in the past with similar or arguably worse talent.
Also, last I checked, coaches are responsible for recruiting and developing players, and recruits do consider scheme and role in their decisions, so yeah that makes a massive difference even on the talent side of the equation.
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And yet, facts will bear out that our current roster has had more Power 5 offers and from a more impressive array of schools than any in Fitzgerald's tenure. And that players that played competently in a top 5 ranked defense in the course of one year all of a sudden couldn't tackle or take proper angles because they lost any talent or ability they had, and not because the scheme caused them to fail (as testimonies from players who played under JON claimed it did at the NFL level). That a QB that as a Freshman, lit up the SEC including the likes of Alabama and Georgia suddenly looks the same as the 5 star QB transfer from Clemson and all the 3 stars that we have trotted out has to be because of a talent gap and not the one common thing that all of these QBs have had to deal with (our complementary stone age offense, where anyone who actually watches games much less DC's and opposing players who study our film, knows exactly what to expect - you'd make some money if you could gamble on our play calls, by betting run on first down up the middle, run or screen to the side on 2nd, pass on 3rd and long short of the sticks - or Wildcat run up the gut on short, and punt; regardless of the defense lining up 8 in the box).
Nevermind that our receivers have not gained any separation at all since Springer has been our WR coach, despite more highly regarded talent at the position than when Kevin Johns was coaching them up in high powered passing offenses.
You sound like Corbi with your truly impressive depth of incomparable football knowledge.
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NU won the battle for the egghead recruits, who comprise only 35% of college football, so you think NU recruited better than Illinois?
No doubt there's a coaching problem, but you're not watching the games if you don't see the talent difference on the DL between NU now and NU 5 years ago. We lose Ramsey, our DL and LBs graduate and POOF ...1-11.
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