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Fitz Suing NU Trial

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Does anyone know if a firm date has been set for the trial. Last word was that it would be this April.


Hopefully Fitz gets some justice and compensation for Schill's unfortunate knee-jerk action.
 
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Asking seriously. Why would you WANT Fitz to get compensation? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he'll end up with a nice payday, probably around the leftover value of his contract but why would you want him to win. Any money he takes away from NU is money we can't spend on our programs & athletes.
 
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Asking seriously. Why would you WANT Fitz to get compensation? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he'll end up with a nice payday, probably around the leftover value of his contract but why would you want him to win. Any money he takes away from NU is money we can't spend on our programs & athletes.
NU dishonorably broke his contract. NU should fire Schill and apologize to Fitz, then maybe he'd settle for something less.
 
Asking seriously. Why would you WANT Fitz to get compensation? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he'll end up with a nice payday, probably around the leftover value of his contract but why would you want him to win. Any money he takes away from NU is money we can't spend on our programs & athletes.
Because it's probably the right thing to do, if you believe as I do, that Fitz was wrongfully terminated. Of course, there is also the possibility that NU will win the case based on evidence that no one on this Board is aware of.
 
Someone on this Board indicated that depositions were ongoing and offered to check the docket to determine who has been deposed to date. This is of considerable interest to me because I have always felt that NU's counsel would not offer up Schill for a deposition, and would settle the case prior to such a deposition. Of course, I could be wrong about this, because, like everyone else here I have no idea what the evidence consists of.
 
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Asking seriously. Why would you WANT Fitz to get compensation? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he'll end up with a nice payday, probably around the leftover value of his contract but why would you want him to win. Any money he takes away from NU is money we can't spend on our programs & athletes.
I don't see it that way. If Fitz wins and is awarded the whole amount he is asking for it would represent only 2.5% of the school's annual budget. I'm confident that they could find that amount of money laying around somewhere and don't see why it would have to impact any specific programs or athletics. I would bet that there is a slush fund somewhere just for this type of contingency.
 
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Asking seriously. Why would you WANT Fitz to get compensation? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he'll end up with a nice payday, probably around the leftover value of his contract but why would you want him to win. Any money he takes away from NU is money we can't spend on our programs & athletes.

Because NU was wrong to fire him. Schill caved and railroaded Fitz. Regardless of my allegiance to NU, wrong is wrong.
 
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I don't see it that way. If Fitz wins and is awarded the whole amount he is asking for it would represent only 2.5% of the school's annual budget. I'm confident that they could find that amount of money laying around somewhere and don't see why it would have to impact any specific programs or athletics. I would bet that there is a slush fund somewhere just for this type of contingency.

Probably most of the settlement/payout will be covered by Insurance.
 
Someone on this Board indicated that depositions were ongoing and offered to check the docket to determine who has been deposed to date. This is of considerable interest to me because I have always felt that NU's counsel would not offer up Schill for a deposition, and would settle the case prior to such a deposition. Of course, I could be wrong about this, because, like everyone else here I have no idea what the evidence consists of.
Depositions will include players who made allegations about the hazing and Fitz himself. Should be very interesting
 
Depositions will include players who made allegations about the hazing and Fitz himself. Should be very interesting
How do you know what depositions have been taken and/or scheduled? This could be determined by a Chicago area lawyer simply by checking the docket at the courthouse where the cases are pending. One of the lawyers on this Board previously posted that depositions are ongoing, and volunteered to check the docket in that regard. So far he has not done so, or at least he has not posted anything in that regard. I have always felt that NU will settle this case rather than producing Schill for a deposition, but, like everybody else, I have no idea what the evidence will reveal.
 
I've tuned out of the talk of a trial date for this reason. No way does insurance let this go to open court. You always settle.
The problem here is that we don't know what the applicable insurance consists of, and, likewise, don't know what the evidence will likely establish. I can assure you, however, that cases like this one don't always settle, having tried numerous high exposure cases in my career on behalf of insurance companies and their insureds. Of course I've settled a number of them as well. Whether or not any case settles depends on the strength of the defense case as well as the potential dollar amount of the exposure.
 
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Asking seriously. Why would you WANT Fitz to get compensation? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he'll end up with a nice payday, probably around the leftover value of his contract but why would you want him to win. Any money he takes away from NU is money we can't spend on our programs & athletes.
Because he was done wrong. No due process. And we have to stand for something. If they wanted to get rid of him for performance they could but they would have had to pay him. But what they did was vindictive and they worked hard to destroy him on the way out. At bare minimum it was wrong how they did it and if they are not forced to pay for that, what are we supporting?
 
If Fitz doesn't need the money but wants a trial to clear his name?
He has been without pay for going on three years right now, and he has not gotten/taken any other job in the meantime. A large settlement would tend to clear his his name. Especially if one of the terms of the agreement is that NU had to admit fault in mishandling the whole situation
 
Does anyone know if a firm date has been set for the trial. Last word was that it would be this April.


Hopefully Fitz gets some justice and compensation for Schill's unfortunate knee-jerk action.
Knee-jerk reaction to sexual assault. No wonder many of these crimes aren't reported.
 
If Fitz wins and is awarded the whole amount he is asking for it would represent only 2.5% of the school's annual budget. I'm confident that they could find that amount of money laying around somewhere and don't see why it would have to impact any specific programs or athletics.

The whole amount that Fitz is suing for also roughly equates to the annual amount of federal funding that is disappearing from what NU had been receiving from the NIH.

Please believe me when I say the NIH grant cut is not being viewed as something that can be replaced by looking in the seat cushions.
 
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I think they’ll settle for something close to Fritz’s original contract value. The contract just looks like this wasn’t covered under ‘for cause’. I doubt we’ll ever know the number.
 
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The whole amount that Fitz is suing for also roughly equates to the annual amount of federal funding that is disappearing from what NU had been receiving from the NIH.

Please believe me when I say the NIH grant cut is not being viewed as something that can be replaced by looking in the seat cushions.
The NIH grant is an entirely different matter. There may be an impact on certain programs, but there is no reason that the athletics department budget should be used to compensate for it.
 
I've tuned out of the talk of a trial date for this reason. No way does insurance let this go to open court. You always settle.
At law division level, they simply entered a discovery schedule with an anticipated trial date with the first case management order. First, those schedules are never followed. Never. Second, once discovery closes, on the trial ‘date,’ there will be a bunch of cases scheduled. Court will try to settle them and the oldest case not settled will go to trial. The rest will be pushed to later dates where process will repeat until Fitz case is oldest case scheduled for the day then will proceed. That’s when most cases settle that don’t settle during discovery.

This case is more than a couple years away from trial.
 
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Can we stop talking about Fitz FFS? Dude was a relic of the past… who we should leave in the past.
I have a problem with anyone referring to Fitz as a relic of the past. He and Gary Barnett made the biggest changes for the better in NU football since Ara Parseghian. You can certainly have your own opinion regarding the charges brought about him. But calling him a relic of the past is going too far.
 
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I think they’ll settle for something close to Fritz’s original contract value. The contract just looks like this wasn’t covered under ‘for cause’. I doubt we’ll ever know the number.
Y’all forget all the other consolidated cases. PF no longer has his own courtroom. PF may change his tune on settlement as hoss deposition approaches or athletes not part of litigation but subpoenaed for deposition testify. Nobody can predict what they will say under oath and they have no fiscal interest.

This thing is far from a done deal. I think it’s those subpoenaed depositions that hold the keys to who gets paid.
 
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Maybe when Fitz goes to Iowa we can finally end the martyrdom of Saint Fitz
Probably not. This guy has NU landmarks as a player and as a coach....Will always be on the Mount Rushmore of NU football. The only two-time winner of both the Chuck Bednarik and Bronco Nagurski Awards, Chicago Sports Hall of Fame, College Football Hall of Fame, led us to first bowl victory in decades. two appearances in B10 Championship game...Now Schill on the other hand.
 
Why? We already have Saint Barney and Saint Hank. Can’t let them be lonely!
Why would any of us who know how instrumental FItz was to the resurgence of the program as a player and coach ever feel differently about him if he decided to pursue his passion for coaching at another Big Ten school? That will only be a deserved reminder of how poorly NU treated him in the end depriving him of his dream to coach his kids and retire from college coaching as a Wildcat legend. He deserved that, not only for what he accomplished at NU but also for doing it the right way. He was the perfect coach for NU in many ways that were under appreciated by many and it remains to be seen whether NU can attract someone comparable to fill that role.
 
Why would any of us who know how instrumental FItz was to the resurgence of the program as a player and coach ever feel differently about him if he decided to pursue his passion for coaching at another Big Ten school? That will only be a deserved reminder of how poorly NU treated him in the end depriving him of his dream to coach his kids and retire from college coaching as a Wildcat legend. He deserved that, not only for what he accomplished at NU but also for doing it the right way. He was the perfect coach for NU in many ways that were under appreciated by many and it remains to be seen whether NU can attract someone comparable to fill that role.
Not to rehash old history and before I get lost-not sure if that is a geographical lost or mental, while Fitz was a great coach for some years at the end as established by his lack of wins he lost what he had
 
Why would any of us who know how instrumental FItz was to the resurgence of the program as a player and coach ever feel differently about him if he decided to pursue his passion for coaching at another Big Ten school? That will only be a deserved reminder of how poorly NU treated him in the end depriving him of his dream to coach his kids and retire from college coaching as a Wildcat legend. He deserved that, not only for what he accomplished at NU but also for doing it the right way. He was the perfect coach for NU in many ways that were under appreciated by many and it remains to be seen whether NU can attract someone comparable to fill that role.
I can’t answer that question. Some people on here don’t think Collins is a good Coach, yet let other subpar Coaches off Scott free. It’s much easier to point out or make up flaws than it is to recognize accomplishments.
 
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Not to rehash old history and before I get lost-not sure if that is a geographical lost or mental, while Fitz was a great coach for some years at the end as established by his lack of wins he lost what he had
That shows how myopic your view of Fitz’s tenure at NU is and also shows a complete lack of understanding of how to define success for NU football. While it is true that his last two seasons at NU were not successful, it is also true that FItz led NU to two Big Ten Championship games in the previous three seasons, left NU as it’s all time winningest coach, led NU to it’s only five bowl game victories in program history, and led NU football to a top 3 APR ranking across all of college football for TEN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS. The program’s record of achievement on and off the field under Fitz’s leadership is unparalleled in NU history and I would argue is unmatched in College football. No coach in college football led a more accomplished program on and off the field while dealing with as many limitations that Fitz managed at NU. He not only won, he won doing it the right way. He was the perfect representative for NU football and in my opinion was well on his way to rebuilding the program into an upper echelon Big Ten program. The talent and recruiting class he had assembled prior to his unceremonious firing was as good as NU had in recent memory. While I admire Braun for how he kept things together, I have no doubt Fitz would have won as much of not more in 2023 and I doubt we would have experienced the same drop off in 2024. I hope Braun can be successful but increasingly in recruiting it is becoming apparent that replicating the leadership, aura and charisma that Fitz brought to the program will be very, very difficult.
 
That shows how myopic your view of Fitz’s tenure at NU is and also shows a complete lack of understanding of how to define success for NU football. While it is true that his last two seasons at NU were not successful, it is also true that FItz led NU to two Big Ten Championship games in the previous three seasons, left NU as it’s all time winningest coach, led NU to it’s only five bowl game victories in program history, and led NU football to a top 3 APR ranking across all of college football for TEN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS. The program’s record of achievement on and off the field under Fitz’s leadership is unparalleled in NU history and I would argue is unmatched in College football. No coach in college football led a more accomplished program on and off the field while dealing with as many limitations that Fitz managed at NU. He not only won, he won doing it the right way. He was the perfect representative for NU football and in my opinion was well on his way to rebuilding the program into an upper echelon Big Ten program. The talent and recruiting class he had assembled prior to his unceremonious firing was as good as NU had in recent memory. While I admire Braun for how he kept things together, I have no doubt Fitz would have won as much of not more in 2023 and I doubt we would have experienced the same drop off in 2024. I hope Braun can be successful but increasingly in recruiting it is becoming apparent that replicating the leadership, aura and charisma that Fitz brought to the program will be very, very difficult.
Maybe your big problem is how to define success for NU. A 1-11 season after a 3-9 season is the epitome of failure everywhere except apparently at NU
 
Maybe if you knew anything about NU football you would know that those two disastrous seasons were right after Mike Hankwitz retired and the defense basically fell apart.

If there is any criticism in order regarding Fitz it is that he did not replace Hank with anyone capable of fielding a decent defense. He made some terrible hiring choices for two years for that position and it cost us heavily in losses.

But none of that negates the fact that Fitz brought us some great success in the previous 16 years. Successes that many people thought NU would never be capable of achieving. As Corbi posted above you have a very myopic view of Fitz and NU football.
 
Maybe your big problem is how to define success for NU. A 1-11 season after a 3-9 season is the epitome of failure everywhere except apparently at NU
LOL, like I said, you are showing how clueless you are about NU’s history and the impediments faced because of the school’s academic requirements and small size. NU’s success during Fitz’s tenure is remarkable because he was able to achieve unprecedented on field success for the program while not sacrificing one iota when it came to the off the field academic expectations. Your bias also shows in your insistence to focus on his record the last two years without acknowledging that the team played in Big Ten Championship games two out of the prior three seasons. Those type of up and down results do not suggest a program in permanent decline but rather a temporary low point driven by a combination of coincidental factors and adjusting to rapid changes in the college football landscape. The fact that FItz’s recruiting class prior to being fired had the makings of his best ever recruiting class and that Braun took the roster he inherited from Fitz (minus several key departures post FItz firing) and won 8 games including a bowl game with it shows that FItz was well on his way to rebuilding the roster in a way that could compete in the NIL era.

It’s clear you have an ax to grind with FItz. Haters are going to hate. Thankfully you are in the minority. Maybe you, CatMantrue and Baz=Heisman can go form your own FItz Haters club online or just join Turk’s already established club.
 
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