Football Players in Kellogg?

[AdamOnFirst]

Have any of our grad student players ever been Kellogg students using their scholarship on an MBA? Is that even a thing? Does that happen anywhere?

Just a random musing of the day, curious if folks know. Obviously some MBA would be very difficult to align with football.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Have any of our grad student players ever been Kellogg students using their scholarship on an MBA? Is that even a thing? Does that happen anywhere?

Just a random musing of the day, curious if folks know. Obviously some MBA would be very difficult to align with football.

MBA, no. One-year Master’s, yes.

 

[kelloggcat]

Kellogg has a one year program called Masters in Management or MiM. It focuses mostly in economics and management science.

A football player could do this, though it would be hard to do a lot of the group assignments due to football commitments.

There is no way Kellogg would hand out a two year MBA seat to a football player. That student would not have the background necessary to contribute in class or in group assignments.

 

[Eurocat]

A few years ago there was an article, I think at the Sports Illustrated site, maybe it was ESPN, about a fifth-year player at Georgia having his fifth year of football and first year of law school.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Kellogg has a one year program called Masters in Management or MiM. It focuses mostly in economics and management science.

A football player could do this, though it would be hard to do a lot of the group assignments due to football commitments.

There is no way Kellogg would hand out a two year MBA seat to a football player. That student would not have the background necessary to contribute in class or in group assignments.

MiM is the one Kellogg program football players could do and I think it’s only happened one or two times.

 

[phatcat]

There is no way Kellogg would hand out a two year MBA seat to a football player.

Not even to this guy?

Sorry, I just love his name

 

[techtim72]

M'ba sounds like the African immigrant equivalent of simplifying a name that was common when European immigrants went through Ellis Island.

 

[Evanstonian]

MiM is the one Kellogg program football players could do and I think it’s only happened one or two times.

Quite a few of the graduate football players are enrolled in the MiM and Sports Administration programs.

 

[High Hopes Cat]

Have any of our grad student players ever been Kellogg students using their scholarship on an MBA? Is that even a thing? Does that happen anywhere?

Just a random musing of the day, curious if folks know. Obviously some MBA would be very difficult to align with football.

I asked about starting my mba at Kellogg during my fifth year (and staying the following year to conclude it). This was ~25 years ago. I got a meeting with the dean I think (can’t remember exactly) and he was very nice but it was extremely clear it was complete non-starter. I went to Stanford GSB a couple years later so it wasn’t a qualification issue exactly, and I don’t believe it had anything to do with football - just no interest in taking someone without work experience.

I was annoyed at the time but after going to B School later it was the right call. Would’ve gotten a lot less out of it without work experience and a bit more life experience as well. Stanford had two students right from undergrad when I was there and I think they’d say the same thing.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Quite a few of the graduate football players are enrolled in the MiM and Sports Administration programs.

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1) Sports Administration is a completely different, non-Kellogg program:

Online Master's in Sports Administration | Northwestern SPS: School of Professional Studies | Northwestern University

Overview of the part-time Master's in Sports Administration program at Northwestern SPS. Specialties include sports management, sports marketing and public relations.

sps.northwestern.edu

2) Nevertheless the number of MiM guys is much higher than I realized, which is a good thing.

 

[Zootcat]

I asked about starting my mba at Kellogg during my fifth year (and staying the following year to conclude it). This was ~25 years ago. I got a meeting with the dean I think (can’t remember exactly) and he was very nice but it was extremely clear it was complete non-starter. I went to Stanford GSB a couple years later so it wasn’t a qualification issue exactly, and I don’t believe it had anything to do with football - just no interest in taking someone without work experience.

I was annoyed at the time but after going to B School later it was the right call. Would’ve gotten a lot less out of it without work experience and a bit more life experience as well. Stanford had two students right from undergrad when I was there and I think they’d say the same thing.

About 40 years ago, when I applied for Kellogg, they actively sought diversity, and although I was an undergrad music major and professional musician (graduated from NU music school 2 years earlier), they accepted me, thank god.

But, I completely agree with the need for business experience. It would have made my transition much, much easier.

 

[techtim72]

No disrespect, but two years of business experience is basically no experience. You know what a purchase order and contracts are, that sales are important and you understand the rudimentary concepts of costs, profits and balance sheets. Five years and then you can hold a business conversation that is meaningfulI and truly contributory. I know everyone is in a rush but that's just the reality. Business schools know this but they walk a fine line between attracting bright, impatient students and those that are truly knowledgeable.

 

[NJCat]

No disrespect, but 2 years of business experience worked for me. I worked in applied R&D for 2 years after my masters and went back for my Ph.D. I had a much better idea of what I needed to do to succeed in research (plus I owned a car and had some money in the bank). I graduated in two and a half years and went on to be very successful in research and later senior management. I think my work experience paid major dividends compared to my grad student colleagues who didn't work between their undergrad and grad experience. My advice to anyone thinking of going to grad school is try working for a living first, it makes you grow up and gives you a perspective you just don't get in academia.

 

[Zootcat]

No disrespect, but two years of business experience is basically no experience. You know what a purchase order and contracts are, that sales are important and you understand the rudimentary concepts of costs, profits and balance sheets. Five years and then you can hold a business conversation that is meaningfulI and truly contributory. I know everyone is in a rush but that's just the reality. Business schools know this but they walk a fine line between attracting bright, impatient students and those that are truly knowledgeable.

Not sure you’re whether referring to me or someone else, but my 2 years were as a professional musician and band director, not in business, And my first post is completely in agreement with yours. I wish I’d been able to get business experience first, and I agree that five years is the sweet spot.


Still, I had a very long and satisfying business career. For me, the Kellogg degree was the calling card that I needed to get started in business.

 

[techtim72]

My comment wasn't about challenging the capabilities of individuals or the choices they made. It is just a fact that in two years post an undergraduate degree it is impossible to be more than at an elementary level concerning the world of business - or practically any profession. I have no doubt business schools prefer candidates with more experience but they are a business that needs to make sales and they recognize that the longer they wait the more likely an individual will move on with their life. If someone can get entry with a golden ticket into Kellogg with two years experience, they would be foolish not to take it.