Game Thread: Northwestern vs. No. 20 Purdue
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Might be time to start thinking about the future. I just don't think this year's version has enough, which sucks for Barny, but true.
Was it a benching, or just saving energy for bigger battles down the road?
The game was over before the half.
The game was over before the half.
Just think - a week ago the consensus seemed to be that Ciaravino and Windham were nowhere near ready to play at a Big Ten level.
Or maybe just a vocal minority voicing that old party line ("If they're not playing, they're not ready" 😠)
Some of us got what we were asking for - and now it should be pretty obvious that those 2 can do things that others can't.
Ciaravino seems to be able to get an open look whenever he wants to. Can anybody else say that? He also has a nose for the ball and the ability to score.
Windham is probably the best ballhandler on the team. He defends and sees the court pretty well.
Those skills shouldn't be parked on the bench.
Not happy with the coach today. It looked to me like he gave up before any of the players.
On the other side, Painter apparently put 3 guys on Barney and Martinelli. Given our limitations on offense, that was an excellent move.
Or maybe just a vocal minority voicing that old party line ("If they're not playing, they're not ready" 😠)
Some of us got what we were asking for - and now it should be pretty obvious that those 2 can do things that others can't.
Ciaravino seems to be able to get an open look whenever he wants to. Can anybody else say that? He also has a nose for the ball and the ability to score.
Windham is probably the best ballhandler on the team. He defends and sees the court pretty well.
Those skills shouldn't be parked on the bench.
Not happy with the coach today. It looked to me like he gave up before any of the players.
On the other side, Painter apparently put 3 guys on Barney and Martinelli. Given our limitations on offense, that was an excellent move.
Gelo had 19 pts (8-14) in 21 minutes.
Today's game was a blueprint for other teams (without PSU's athleticism) for defending our top 2 scorers. We have to adjust. Berry has to start making shots, Leach has to make a few more shots, and Gelo and KJ deserve more minutes.
Today's game was a blueprint for other teams (without PSU's athleticism) for defending our top 2 scorers. We have to adjust. Berry has to start making shots, Leach has to make a few more shots, and Gelo and KJ deserve more minutes.
Baby was rattled today. Too much pressure playing back home. Not sure if we even played our best that we win today. Perdue was on. Flush this one.
You are better than this PWB. After every game there is extraordinary recency bias. I can guarantee you that if Jell-O shots 20% and KJ turns the ball over the critics will say they shouldn’t be anywhere near the court. IMO, the truth is somewhere in between what critics of players say and what advocates of that player say. There are good games and bad games. Berry was Steph Curry after the NE game and Jack Haley after this game.
How did the HC quit today? Big Matt was useless and Berry reverted back to doing nothing as well. If anything forcing his hand with Jello and KJ. If he kept rolling with them, and tried nothing that’s quitting. I was pleased he put both on the pine and wished he glued Hunger there too. That doesn’t mean I don’t want them right back in the lineup next game!
Horrible games happen every year.
I posted Ciaravino's numbers and an argument that he should be getting playing time before the Penn State loss.
And stated that Windham may have to play the point because I wasn't sure Leach could handle pressure (after seeing the Northeastern game in person)
Benching Nicholson for lethargic play early in the game is akin to quitting. The problems were elsewhere.
What you said about Ciaravino getting an open look whenever he wanted to was exactly my observation. That is a rarity against top tier competition and we should exploit that given he's shown he can shoot. He's also bouncy getting numerous put backs at the rim. This team can use whatever cheap points it can find.
CCC clearly said Jello and KJ were not in the rotation because they were not quite there defensively. He also said they are improving in that aspect and that is why they are seeing more action.
Defense has also been the table stakes for playing with CCC, even before the Wizard was hired as our main defensive voice. Do I think Jello is a good defender now, No. Do I think he will be a good defender, Yes. Do I think KJ is a good defender now, No. Do I think he is a good defender, Yes. This has played out with almost all first year players. Nick was a poor defender, now he is decent. Berry and Barney too. Even Big Matt was poor on defense his first year, now he is elite.
Who was he going to sit when we were down? Berry wasn’t contributing and Big Matt isn’t going to bring you back from 25 down. I am sure he would have been in there if we cut the lead but we didn’t. Someone goes to bench when Jello and KJ play. Leach was scoring some and our two forwards are the best scores on the team by a country mile!
Illinois also have had one home game and three road games including a two game swing to the west coast.
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