Great Tweet from ESPNGreeny
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BC is an academic peer? Probably Michigan, Wiscy, and even Illinois have better academic programs than BC. Didn't we also lose to Army recently? I would rate the service academies higher than BC. Oh well, it's all in the spin I guess. Sorry to go Feli Sylvester on you. Carry on.
This is a slight massaging of the data from US News. We left Cal out in order to keep it at 8-0 instead of 9-1.
BC is actually ranked #30 in the most recent rankings...only Michigan is higher at #29. UW and Ill are in the 40s.
The service academies are technically liberal arts colleges and not national universities so they are not academic peers in this sense.
They are obviously focusing on other private institutions, but they should make that much more clear. Because, as of now, it looks like we are just not including Cal (or Michigan even) because we lost to them.
It's for out of conference games and we are definitely leaving off Cal because it would makes us 9-1...silly.
I don't know if it was Jim Phillips or Mark Murphy or someone before them, but I would like to chew out whoever put Cal on our schedule simply because it has caused our beloved board to be forever infected with Cal posters. I can't think of a more obnoxious opponent fan base (and we're in a conference with Iowa and Ohio State!!!).
I actually kinda like Droski, not even joking. It's like anytime a poster on this board mentions "Cal" a batsignal goes off for him to defend his school's honor. Respect the hustle
droski, Cal's a better graduate institution than NU, I don't deny that. But when it comes to undergrad, NU is better, see US News for umpteen years. So get off your high horse and go put somebody else to sleep.
It's difficult to determine when someone is making a serious argument on here and when someone has their own schtick. Once I realized Droski is schtick I'm fine with him. Problem is a couple dozen posters don't get it and argue with him endlessly. Let him get his shot in. Call him an idiot, let him come back and be done with it.
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Greeny did not originally post this or compile the data... it was originally posted on nu_fbfamily twitter and on thewildcatway.com. So the NU PR people must have compiled the information. Not sure if Greeny has the time for that task !!!
Go Cats !
I have to admit that I was trolling a bit when I threw out the droski reference in my post to see how fast I would get a response. That boy performed beyond my expectations -- he responded within 2 minutes. TWO MINUTES!!! Impressive indeed. He must watch this board day and night.
In terms of athletics, BC is an academic peer -- or close to it, anyway. Among the Power Five it's Stanford, NU, ND, Duke, Vandy and BC. That's about it -- and Stanford is really the only one that's more selective than NU.
Make no mistake: Cal, Michigan, Wisconsin and Illinois are all good schools. But they are nowhere near as selective in terms of athlete admissions as NU.
Yeah, I was impressed. I used to think there were several hundred Penn State users each assigned to one specific message board 24 hours a day so that they'll be able to respond immediately with all of their talking points if anyone says anything negative about them.
As for this tweet, while I'm proud of our Nerd Bowl bonafides, it almost feels like crowing that "we're undefeated against the teams we have beaten!" I mean it's cool and all, but it has to twist a little bit to fit the perfect narrative.
So if you predict that NU will lose a game you're not allowed to celebrate if they win?
Should Rice be included? We played them several times in the paste and they're pretty solid academically.
Rice or Tulane are similar schools, but outside the Power 5. But if you limit it to just Power 5, then technically ND isn't in that list. They don't have a special status anymore like they did under the BCS.
When this point was made on a prior thread I added Vandy to the NU, ND, and Stanford trifecta. I had not considered BC. As I noted in my prior post, the Wildcats deserve a mounted calculator in the Nicolet Football CenterTrophy Case with each team member getting their own pocket protector. Both could be emblazoned with the 8-0 tweet graphic.
As far as Rice not being included, I blame OwlVision.
You're right, and it was appropriately dead silent in here after the Stanford game
I'm just saying you gotta stand by the team. You can't go into the game saying we're gonna lose. Let's just watch the game and drink some beer but we have little chance and then be like "whoawho we won!! We're the best."
I stand with the team so I'm always going to predict/expect victory. I'd rather be happy than be right. Being happy and right when you win is awesome btw.
And since undergrad is the only thing that counts as far as sports fandom goes, well, Droski loses.
I absolutely despise people who are fans of their graduate schools. If you go to Ball State undergrad, then to Michigan law or whatever, you don't get to be a Michigan fan! That makes you a damn traitor as far as I'm concerned. The only exception to this is the schools without football and D II and III. Then it's OK. But if you're just cherry picking the better program, that's weak.
I just despise people who went to Michigan law, so it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you should be down on the team or rip them to pieces on the boards or anything like that. I'm just saying that if -- for example -- you didn't think the '06 team was going to take down #1 Ohio State, it doesn't mean you weren't standing by the team.
Plus, in Greenberg's case it's his job to have sports opinions! He probably doesn't want to come across like Lou Holtz, who would pick Notre Dame to beat the New England Patriots if they somehow faced off.
Well, I do follow my grad school, too. William& Mary will almost anever pose a conflict of interest with my NU loyalty. They are FCS in football and one of the (4?) schools, along with NU, that are undefeated in March Madness. I will root for the Gryphon Tribe with a clean conscience.
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I would've picked the 2006 team to beat Ohio State and if that made me come across like Lou Holtz so be it. If there's one thing I know about NU football, it is that we can beat 100% of the teams in the country and we can lose to 100% of the teams in the country. Look at 2014. We drop 2 games to Cal after a 1-11 season and a MAC team with a new QB. The offense looks bad against WIU. Then we go back to back wins over Penn State and Wisconsin. Was PSU and incredible team that year? No. But we didn't realize that at the time. They were 4-0 at the time. Look at 2010. We lose (while ranked) to Purdue who finished 4-8. We lose to PSU and MSU with a win against Indiana in the middle. Then we go play #13 Iowa.... and Win. 2011 comes along and WE LOSE TO 0-2 ARMY that would finish 3-9 (FCS win and Tulane were the other 2 wins). We then lose the next 4 and beat a bad Indiana team in Memorial Stadium and then walk into a much bigger Memorial Stadium... the one in Lincoln against a Nebraska team that is #9 in the country. We win, primarily with a back up QB that can't pass.
Literally, every game is a potential win. Every game is a potential loss. I guess that's why we play the games. Why not vote win?
It's just amazing at the level of snobbery we have on this board. The fact that anyone would frown on BC being included on that list is beyond me. Get over yourselves people.
Lou Holtz would pick Notre Dame against the '85 Bears (when they were in their prime).
