Create an environment where the backups or young players who were victims of hazing believed that complaints of hazing would be heard and taken seriously, with perpetrators disciplined.
Most of these athletes are old enough to serve in the military. How are we defining immaturity here?
If I can believe what my father told me, a drill instructor would be worse than the players.
At some point do you look around and assess the lengths you reach to vindicate this guy. If you compared to the lengths you would go for your own kids / grandkids (remember you like to listen to both sides), to political figures you disagree with…do you see the extraordinary lengths you will traverse (as long as anonymously) to back PF and ask why?
Implied? Corbi straight up said it was all good. And when CMT made light, Cappy deleted. Really? Carry over of accountability?
Are they old enough to be responsible for debt they sign up for? Old enough to drink? Old enough to not be called kid?
I was just asking a question because you said Fitz didn't do enough, so I wanted to know what else you thought he should do. I don't see how I was "vindicating" him by asking that question.
You are familiar with the idiom about the fox and the hen house? How about taking the blindingly obvious measure of having one of the coaching staff in the locker room after all practices? Every year that I played football or other sports there was always a member of the coaching staff in the locker room. They had an office in there.
It's interesting. I recently spent almost a year around a major college basketball program with access behind the scenes to almost all areas the team was in and the layout was such that the coaches weren't really in the "locker room" and shower areas. Their offices were far from the locker rooms. I don't remember them being specifically kept out of those areas, but the areas where the coaches went and addressed the team were separate from those areas. These programs have pretty massive resources, so it's different from the days of the coach's office being around the corner from the showers. The coaches not really being in the locker room a lot seems somewhat common from my exposure to these things, but I'm sure there are lots of different experiences out there. That doesn't excuse the coaches from responsibility for everything that happens in the program, but just noting what I saw.
If there were systemic failures, and it sounds lie there were, he didn’t do enough unless you think these things are simply part of a program like mosquitos own the night.
Was your experience in college athletics? I spent 4 years as a D1 athlete and I can’t remember every seeing a Coach in the locker room. In fact, I would have thought that as very weird/uncomfortable.
The fox are the hazing football players. Maybe I should have used leaving inmates in. charge of the asylum.
No, PPD, my experience I was referencing was high school. No one on the football team thought it was weird that the coaching staff had an office in the locker room area. Not surprisingly no hazing ever happened in that locker room during the four years that I played sports. My own hazing experiences happened at a party event hosted by seniors.
Based on PPD's experience, perhaps it would be considered an unusual measure to take in NCAA D1 sports. Of course I can't take his response alone as representative of all D1 athletes, but for the sake of argument, let's assume that what he says is true.
It all depends on his contract language. If it says that his responsibilities extend to e.g. "the behavior of athletes while on or in team facilities", yes.
Oh what I said is true. However, that was decades ago and it wasn’t at NU. To elaborate on the set up:
Doesn’t answer the question - what justifies $5MM? In the recent years, the answer was cleanest program and face of the university (though his snarkiness made many of us laugh as he had run off all non-student media except Lou).
Well, if school successfully terminated for cause or PF successfully prosecuted a yet I filed lawsuit, I think it is.
