How many FBS coaches (while FBS coaches) have lost to THREE FCS teams?
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Off the top of my head, I only remember a loss to NDSU, which only counts because they're technically FCS. If the 'Cats had lost to NDSU, I wouldn't be SO upset. I would consider the Duke loss worse.
I know they had some near-misses against Northern Iowa, but I think Iowa pulled those off in the end. I know Iowa State has lost to Northern Iowa.
He gets a pass on UNH. 2nd game after Walk's death, Baby Fitz, UNH was legit. The other two are stupid
I won't deny the point you're trying to make here, but you also have to ask how many coaches have held the same job for as long as Fitz. And you have to consider why he's had the job this long. It's not because he's a Daley nephew or caught Phillips and Morty frolicking in lingerie.
Our relationship with the head coach is just like any long-term relationship with ups and downs. We happen to be hitting one of those moments where "you always do this!" and we're super annoyed.
I'm not ready to break up over it (yet).
Our relationship with the head coach is just like any long-term relationship with ups and downs. We happen to be hitting one of those moments where "you always do this!" and we're super annoyed.
I'm not ready to break up over it (yet).
UNH finished 5-5 that year. Even with Bacher injured we had no business losing to them. That loss and the MSU collapse cost us a bowl game.
It was a really bad loss - felt worse in some ways than all of the others.
While I give it a pass, the loss was worse than it looked. They could have dropped 50 on us. We were dominated.
Got it. I was thinking of their 2007 season. Chip Kelly versus our DC was a big differentiator.
Still, we had much more talent than a Top 10 1-AA team at that time and had no business losing that game. Sutton should have had 200 yards easy against their defense. While Appalachian State changed the game in 2007, were we the first B1G team to ever lose to a FCS squad?
It was a bad loss, and the start of a disturbing trend.
I believe we were the first active B1G member to lose to an FCS/1-AA opponent. Rutgers lost multiple 1-AA games before our loss to UNH but they obviously weren't in the B1G yet.
B1G losses to FCS teams:
09/09/06 - New Hampshire 34, Northwestern 17
09/16/06 - Southern Illinois 35, Indiana 28
09/01/07 - Appalachian State 34, #5 Michigan 32
10/20/07 - North Dakota State 27, Minnesota 21
09/11/10 - South Dakota 41, Minnesota 38
09/24/11 - North Dakota State 37, Minnesota 24
09/10/16 - Illinois State 9, Northwestern 7
09/17/16 - North Dakota State 23, #13 Iowa 21
09/17/22 - Southern Illinois 31, Northwestern 24
B1G losses to FCS teams:
09/09/06 - New Hampshire 34, Northwestern 17
09/16/06 - Southern Illinois 35, Indiana 28
09/01/07 - Appalachian State 34, #5 Michigan 32
10/20/07 - North Dakota State 27, Minnesota 21
09/11/10 - South Dakota 41, Minnesota 38
09/24/11 - North Dakota State 37, Minnesota 24
09/10/16 - Illinois State 9, Northwestern 7
09/17/16 - North Dakota State 23, #13 Iowa 21
09/17/22 - Southern Illinois 31, Northwestern 24
And they were ranked #2 when we played them, so it didn't feel quite so bad at the time.
Stan Parrish had five losses, two with Ball State and three with Kansas State in the 80s before Bill Snyder. He coached five full seasons and had an FCS/I-AA loss in each one, impressive.
Joe Novak also had five, all at Northern Illinois.
Tom Cable had five at Idaho in four seasons of coaching there in the early 2000s, who would've thought with that track record that he would've been a terrible NFL head coach as well...
Ed Zaunbrecher had five over two seasons when Louisiana Monroe transitioned to I-A.
Randy Edsall had four, in his two stints as UConn head coach (2000 vs Rhode Island and Northeastern, 2001 vs Eastern Washington and 2021 vs Holy Cross, which was the last game he ever coached)
Trent Miles, who was the Georgia State coach when they moved to FBS, had four FCS losses, though to be fair, three came in their first season in FBS.
Charlie Weatherbee had four, three at Louisiana-Monroe in the 2000s and one at Utah State in the 90s.
Joe Hollis had three at Arkansas State.
Jim Caldwell also had three at Wake Forest before transitioning to a successful NFL career.
Jerry Baldwin had three in one season at Louisiana-Lafayette.
Al Molde had three with Western Michigan in the 80s and 90s.
Jerry Pettibone had three with Northern Illinois and Oregon State.
There are a whole lot of coaches with two, though most of them were not head coaches for very long. For the most part, it seems longevity is needed to rack up 3 FCS losses. Also, you'll note that the only other P5 team represented here is Wake Forest in the 90s, because P5 teams don't have the patience for coaches who lose to FCS teams regularly...
No, it felt quite terrible at the time. I travelled back from the stadium in a daze, almost incoherent. And I didn’t have a single drink.
That is a list of guys who were good men and pretty good football coaches. It happens!
Tom Cable was not a good man if these allegations are true:
On August 17, 2009, ESPN reported that Cable was accused of punching assistant coach Randy Hanson in the face and fracturing his jaw. The incident allegedly took place on August 5 during the Raiders' training camp, held in Napa. On October 22, 2009, the Napa district attorneyannounced that no charges would be filed against Cable.[6] Hanson later filed a civil suit against Cable and the Raiders, citing assault, battery and intentional infliction of emotional distress.[7] The matter was settled in arbitration.[8]
On November 1, 2009, the ESPN show Outside the Lines reported that Cable was accused of physical abuse against two ex-wives and an ex-girlfriend.[9] One of the accusers filed a civil suit against Cable, which was later settled.[10] Glenda Cable released this statement "I have known Tom Cable for more than 20 years, including 17 years of marriage," Glenda Cable said in the statement. "Throughout the time I have known him, Tom has never been violent to me or our children. I chose not to speak to the media before now to protect my privacy and that of my children. However, I am very troubled by what is being claimed by others and I felt compelled to speak out about my own lengthy experience with Tom." Multiple witnesses have also refuted some of the accusations against Cable. One of the accusers was heard screaming “I’m going to ruin you!” Merely moments before making the accusations of assault against Cable. Cable does make an admission of slapping his wife over 30 years ago after learning of her infidelity.
Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis specifically called attention to the allegations of violence against women and the altercation with Hanson as contributing to his decision to fire Cable. In addition, Davis fined Cable $120,000.[11]
I only knew him as a member of Gruden's staff and his rep as an OL Coach. He was legit as a coach. Of course Gruden has a very large set of problems in his own right. Times have definitely changed.
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